Sid Roth
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"It's Supernatural" Guest Appearances
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24 Nov 10 Sid Roth welcomes Dr. Caroline Leaf

Sid: My guest is Dr. Caroline Leaf and she is a Neuroscientist that has researched the brain for over twenty years.  Finally, science has catching up with the brain.  Finally, science is catching up with the Bible.  Finally, science is beginning to not only understand the words of Jesus but just so solidify it.  I mean, I’ve found when I studied Dr. Carolyn’s leaf’s books and listened to her DVDs on the subject of discovering the gift in you it’s allowing me to grasp the biblical concepts in a stronger way than I have ever done that before.  We were talking on yesterdays broadcast about gift blockers and it is so important for you to understand this because not only as you read her literature and see her DVDs will you discover the gift within you but how to enhance the way your thinking.  It actually, Caroline you told me that it makes people more intelligent.

Dr. Caroline: Yes, this is a wonderful side effect.  Ha ha, when you think correctly and thinking correctly means that you are thinking according to your gift.  Your increasing your intelligence.  You see were taught, as soon as you mention the word gift, people immediately have the visions of Einstein or someone as a wonderful concert pianist  or a great orator.   But that’s simply the manifestation of your gift.  Your true gift is how you uniquely think and as you are uniquely thinking in your special way, you are building thought into your brain.  If you think according to your gift and your own special way, and we’ve been talking in the previous programs about structure of your gift that you can actually identify and get familiar with the structure of your gift to ensure that you think according to how you are suppose to be thinking.  Because, if you don’t you build gift blockers.   Because the result of thinking is a thought, is a real physical thing inside your head.  So if I’m just thinking randomly or if I’m thinking how someone else wants me to think;  which I’m not thinking according to my gift, or the structure of my gift.  I build a thought that becomes toxic.  It becomes distorted, it becomes hijacked.  It becomes a gift blocker.  Now we are wired for love Sid.  We are wired, the circuits in our brain, the way that the brain actually thinks through the gift; thinks through the different kinds of thought.

Sid: Isn’t it interesting the Bible said this, God is love and we are created in His image.  So of course science has just figured out we are wired for love.

Dr. Caroline: Isn’t it awesome and if your wired for love it means that God has designed, has literally designed for affection.  But, because we live in a fallen world we don’t achieve that.  So, we react to things in life and things come at us and we think and as things happen to you, what happens is as human we receive that through our senses.  We think about it and build it into some thought so all day long you are thinking.  And all night long you are thinking.  But you think in a different way to when you are awake.  But, all day long you are thinking as you are thinking, you are building thoughts, or your sorting out your thought.  The way that you need to this is your gift.  So your gift is behind the manifestation, the gift is behind what the world sees and the world sees.  And if the gift goes wrong, then our potential becomes distorted.  Our self confidence gets shot and this is what the enemy wants.  He wants us to be broken and he wants us to be anxious.  The result of not thinking correctly is very serious because we get things like, depression, anxiety, worry, fear and physical illness in our body.  Because we are going against what is the natural.  We are working against the natural.  We have worked out of brain compatibility we have worked out of spiritual compatibility God has created as the true you.  One of the ways that I describe the true you in the gift blockers is through the concept of the true you.  Your true you is who Jesus made you to.  What God made you to be.  Okay, so I knew you before your were formed in your mother’s womb I knew you.  I knew you, Sid Roth before thing you are doing today.  He knew you, so that newness can be scientifically described now in terms of the structure and the questionnaire I developed and all that kind of thing.  Which, when we understand we get a basic glimpse of the real how we are supposed to be and when we operate, when we understand that, practice thinking in that.  Physically you feel amazing, but Sid when you go against that, when you start thinking toxic thought s or your thinking in the wrong way you block that gift.  And you feel that in your body.  God has been so gracious that in that he has built what I call, I have labeled in a fun way discomfort zones.  We have actual discomfort zones in our body.  So when I’m not thinking the way that I should.  I’m thinking and upset and I’m feeling anxious about something, my gift will automatically be blocked because my gift is how I think.  So if I think and I’m not wired to think negatively, I’m wired to t think positively.  So if I’m thinking in anxious way, I’m building an anxious thought.  Immediately, my body will be strained and stressed.  So as I am thinking this negative way, I get a discomfort zone.  And the first one is what I call just a way, just a way level.  I just become aware something is not right here.  You just get this awareness that you did something is wrong.  That’s a discomfort zone.   That is our body telling us, hey you stepped out of your gift.  You are not thinking well, you got to hijack your thinking.  You are  going to build toxic thought.  It is not good for you.  We very often ignore that.  Then the gift God has built in the second discomfort zone and that is, the second discomfort zone happens deep inside the brain and it causes a very strong stress reaction.  That is what I call the heart pounding, adrenaline pumping level.  Some people refer to that often as the flat to flat syndrome.  So when we are thinking out of sync with our gift.  Then our bodies are thrown into a full blown stretch of responsibility if we ignored the first level if we ignored the first level which is the just aware level.  At that is when the heart pounds the adrenalin pumps our shoulders tense up.  It is like God’s saying to us theologically through our body wake up.  You are doing something wrong.  This is not a good thought pattern this is not a good thing that your processing into your mind.  This is not a good thing you are building.  It’s going to make you feel sick and you can squash that.  You can ignore that, but you won’t feel enough.  We do that, we  can push it into your unconscious mind and we can pretend that it is gone away, but Sid it is always there.  Always causing on an unconscious level a block in your ability to process and think through things.  And we see this in the word of God when God talks about how our hearts have become hardened.  When your gift is ignored and you build gift blockers, you are hardening your heart then you can’t listen to the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit is a gentleman, He won’t push.

Sid: When your heart is hardened like this can it be reversed. Can it be softened?   Can it become a heart of flesh rather than a heart of stone?

Dr. Caroline: Yes, absolutely and this is where God’s supernatural braces come in.  I mean, I know that your show are supernatural and you look at the human body and how God has designed it.  It is so unbelievably supernatural.  Yes, those gift blockers can be rewired.  The minute that I make, the second that I make the decision, this is not good, I going to listen I don’t feel comfortable and I listen to that adrenalin pounding, heart pumping and I say God something is going wrong here, please help me.   The moment, the minute I do that chemicals will start flowing and it will helping to breakdown that toxic block and rebuild a healthy one.  But it takes another four days to push through to start getting some stability and then change in your brain and then it takes a full twenty-one days to rewire that gift blocker.  But, yes we can.  The graciousness and the supernatural grace of God has enabled and empowered us to release the chemicals through our own vigilant, our own I factor our own will.  And we can rebuild and rewire.

Sid: Alright the Bible talks about terms such as repentance.   How does this affect the brain?

Dr. Caroline: Oh, I’m so glad you asked that, because really the first thing we have, if we are wired for love and were wired to follow in God’s image.  Every time you build toxic thought, this means we step out of line, we step into the sin zone and we need to repent.  And as you repent I acknowledge that you are great.  I acknowledge that Your the Savior.  I acknowledge that you died on the cross,  and whatever that you are saying in your mind and I acknowledge that this is wrong.  I am sorry, as soon as you do that chemicals will flow in your brain that will help you breakdown the gift blocker.  Electrical chemical balances become restored. Marvelous things are happening in your brain to help you restore function back to what it was.  So when we repent, we actually rewire big big big way just like this burst of electrical chemical energy to facilitate this process.  So God graciously see you take hold of the work that was done at the cross.  You repent for that sin and He is gracious and just to forgive us of our sins and claim us from the unrighteousness.  He claims us with the washing of the word.  The washing of the word brings in the washing of the chemical.  Those chemicals wash through that are secreted when you repent.  It washes away that toxic block.  I mean it is incredible.

Sid: Tell me a story illustrating the fact that our strengths will change our weaknesses.

Dr. Caroline: Okay, so if we, that example I even gave earlier we could use of the person that was the keyboard player.  That child’s strength was in her ability, her musical ability which was a special type of thinking that was manifesting as a wonderful gifted thing on the keyboard.  Now, what happens when the whole result in playing the keyboard was not just one of those types of thought.  We have seven, seven different types of thought.  All seven types of thought were being involving in her playing a wonderful gift on the keyboard.  Now if I take away that expression, if I take away that manifestation of her gift I have taken away who she is.  So therefore, everything will be effecting because her thinking through her seven was really manifesting in an exceptional way.  This child was an exceptional keyboard player.  It was manifesting in that so by removing the result of her combination of her seven.  All seven would have dropped.  By reintroducing this musical talent of hers, which was a result of all seven, that was dominated by the musical.  Obviously it then opened up the door way for her.  She opened up the doorway herself in her mind to be able to improve.  To be all the other septic so if we work hand and hand with how we actually are, our true you things all lift up in our life.  You may have a weak area and it may.

Sid: Tell you what, our time is slipping away, but you have such a unique gift and you are bringing it.  It is wired to work in a specific sequence.  When you discover that sequence you then unlock your potential.  You remove the toxic thinking and you replace it with God’s thinking and you will be physically healed.  You’ll increase in intelligence.

18 Nov 10 Our Guest Surprise Suthole

SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter and he is provoking me to jealousy -I say unfair! Why do I say unfair? Surprise has been to heaven! And I’ve never been to heaven; so the best you can do is tell me, what is heaven like?

SURPRISE: Heaven is real if you see whatever on earth, it’s not real like heaven because God himself cannot make a real place for us and a real place for him. This that you touch on earth is not real he has the real stuff.

SID: So all the things we worry about; get upset about.

SURPRISE: It’s unreal, it’s unreal.

SID: It doesn’t mean nothing; it doesn’t mean nothing!

SURPRISE: It is rotten, it is rust.

SID: That’s why the Messiah said worry for nothing. Come to your senses! This is just your learning ground. It’s almost; not almost, it’s temporary for the one that never ends. What else? Were the streets really with gold?

SURPRISE: The streets are real when I went there I saw the achacian tree that we are…

SID: Achacian tree.

SURPRISE: Achacian tree, yes that is the tree that I’ve seen for the first time. I saw the achacian tree was lining up; and then there was like a glory rising to the place of God himself, where he was living. So there was a tremendous light like a sun was rising early in the morning with the clouds and so on. All kind of those stories; so what happened is that while I was going the street is paved with gold, blue gold, and it’s shiny that gold. So I’m still going to the place of God I found out that where I was going was completely silent. So when I was going I was wondering why heaven is so very silent. It’s supposed to have a lot of movement, a lot of people and so on. And there was a cloud that was accompanying me and this cloud was giving the answer of whatever my mind thinks, the cloud gives answer. He said no, don’t worry the people are there that you see and suddenly I saw millions and millions and millions of people prostrate before the throne.

SID: Worshipping God

 

SURPRISE: Worshipping God. While I was still going and so I saw there was some where it was like a garden and there is a gate and that gate… there were two people standing inside. Nobody introduced me to those people I knew, the sentiment rose within me and said that is Elijah, that is Enoch.

SID: Let me ask you a question.

SURPRISE: Go ahead.

SID: Have you been anointed for the miraculous by God? Do you work in the gift of miracles?

SURPRISE: Exactly, I’ve seen tremendous miracles.

SID: Tell me one.

SURPRISE: One of them is when I prayed for a girl that was dead for two days and rose from the dead.

SID: That’s a big one.

SURPRISE: That is the big one and including a man, his name is Nyong he was crippled, completely crippled he was walking with these…

SID: Crippled.

SURPRISE: Crippled, yes he was completely crippled we prayed for him and the man arose and walked.

SID: Now let me ask you something.

SURPRISE: Go ahead.

SID: Did God tell you to pray for him? Or did you just put your hands on him? In other words does God tell you to pray for someone? Or do you just pray for someone and they get healed?

SURPRISE: It’s continually the work of faith; the work of faith is that everyone that you meet you have to pray for.

SID: Well I’ll tell you what.

SURPRISE: Go ahead.

SID: There are about a million people watching you right now. Would you just look into that television and would you pray for them right now?

SURPRISE: I will do that.

SID: Do that.

SURPRISE: Let’s just pray right now in the name of Jesus. Especially I just want to pray to all the watchers and listeners that are listening, but I want to tell you this even better; that the Lord is real. He is God in loving kindness. If he can save the son of a witch doctor, he can save you too. He can take your life and raise your life up and you can walk in the same miracle that I am walking in. The Lord can anoint your life with the apostle gift, with all kinds of stuff. Now we will pray. Oh father I just pray for my brothers in the name of Jesus, and my sisters that there might be a miracle taking place in their life in Jesus’ name. Let them possess, let them oh God men to know a revelation of who you are. You are real God. Father, make yourself known to them and cause them to walk in your way in Jesus’ name; in Jesus’ mighty name. We bless your holy name. Keep on walking in God’s way, may the Lord bless you.

SID: I feel a very, very strong presence of God right now. Have you ever prayed for blind people that have gotten their sight back?

SURPRISE: Yes, exactly. I prayed for one man, he was very completely blind. He got his sight back and I prayed for the man even here in Nashville, I prayed for a couple of people that were sick and they got healed.

SID: Tell me about someone you prayed for in the United States that had cancer.

SURPRISE: He’s here in Nashville.

SID: Now what kind of cancer? And was he healed instantly or slowly?

SURPRISE: Well he wasn’t healed instantly because cancer is inside. So we prayed for that great center here at (unclear) church. So we prayed for this man that had cancer and now when he went to the doctor the doctor found that the cancer was gone but they wanted to make sure they opened him and found out the cancer was gone completely.

SID: Now you told me that you saw heaven.

SURPRISE: Exactly.

SID: You were in heaven?

SURPRISE: Yes.

SID: Did you ever see hell? Were you in hell?

SURPRISE: I’ve never seen hell. I cannot tell you, I’ve never seen hell.

SID: Although he’s never seen hell we know by revelation that hell is horrible, but you know what you told me? You told me that when God taught you about the book of Revelation and Daniel this earth was in a horrible mess in the last days.

SURPRISE: Exactly.

SID: How bad will it be?

SURPRISE: In Revelation 6, verse 4 comes the second seal the angel comes to collect a piece from the earth when the angel comes to collect the piece from the earth there will be a horrible, massive…

SID: Is that soon? Is that soon?

SURPRISE: That is very soon.

SID: Did you hear that? That’s very soon. Listen, I wouldn’t wait one second. I would tell God you’re sorry for your sins; list them, believe the blood of Jesus washes them away, and then say I want to be your son; I want to be your daughter. Jesus, I’m tired of playing games. I want intimacy with you. Live inside of me; become real to me I want to have this peace that they’re talking about. Do it now.

08 Nov 10 Sid Roth welcomes Katie Souza

Sid: Mishpochah, the family with a Jewish heart. Made up of Jewish and non Jewish people with middle wall of separation has come down between Jew and Gentile finally to form what Paul calls one new man.  This one new man is the full dwelling place of God.  It is as if God has been waiting so long. It started with the Jewish people.  The job of the Jewish believers in Jewish believers in Jesus, were to bring the gospel to the Gentiles. They did a good job. But then the Gentiles failed on their job.  Their job was to bring the gospel back to the Jewish people.  In fact Romans 11:11 says salvation has come to the Gentiles to provoke the Jew to jealousy.  The call of a Gentile Christian is to reach the Jew for Jewish.  Well now Gentile light is coming on Gentile believers.  They are moving in signs and wonders, provoking Jews to jealousy.  Jewish people are coming in because there is something deficient in the body if it is just Gentile believers in Jesus.  There is something deficient in the full dwelling place for God, if there is just Jewish Believers in Jesus.  But when the two come together the full spiritual DNA of the glory of God comes into place and we are going to see the greatest miracles the world has ever seen.  Why?  To reach the world for the gospel.  More Gentiles are going to come to the Lord when the one new man comes together.  So you see why I get so passionate over this and my guest is going to help you move in the dimension of the miraculous.  Her name is Katie Souza.  Katie found that she got a healing anointing but when she prayed for people some would get healed, some would not get healed.  There would be marvelous healings and then she was instructed a missing key about the kingdom of Satan.  You have heard of the kingdom of God, well there’s also a mirror image of the demonic called the kingdom of Satan.  She found out from studying David and Goliath that if she could knock out the Goliath, cut his head off then the entire army of the demonic would give up just as in the story of David and Goliath.  She saw her mom get set free from horrific pain and the drug addiction that was taking care of the pain. And then she went on and you were seeing some amazing breakthroughs, Katie in other areas of healing.  Tell me about them.

Katie: Well, we started seeing all kinds of breakthroughs like in diseases, because Genesis 9 says that we have been given dominion over everything in the earth, the land,  the sea, the sky and all the creepy crawly things.  Well, part of that is the biological kingdom.  Well, if you don’t know who one of the kings is over that kingdom and you remove him first. Then you can command that biological to die.  So we were having people who had pneumonia instantly healed.  We had people that had different illnesses, stomach flues being instantly healed. People with heart attack problems being instantly healed.  A man that had an incision with pus in it and it was instantly healed when we commanded the bad king, the demonic king to come off his hand and they commanded the bad biological in his incision to die.  He even went to the doctor the next day and the doctor said well your incision looks perfect.  Well, yesterday it was infected with puss and the doctor was like, wow what did you do? He said well, we prayed.  So we started to see a really big breakthrough in the area of biological and body pains and all kinds of places.

Sid: Well, I love it.  In your six CD series called the Healing School you take people step by step and the bonus CD that we are offering this week only, which has to do with the glory light.  I have never even heard that taught but it is totally biblical.  I mean that that is a whole new layer, a whole new dimension of healing.  But tell me a couple more types of healing you were seeing.

Katie: Well, we had a woman that had severe body pain for years and years. The kind that she said  that just made you just want to kill yourself.  She had had a lot of people praying for her.  It was like that thing you said, it was like a key missing.  There was something that they weren’t getting to.  So when she came to my conference she came up and she was almost like, she was very discouraged at that point.  She said just pray for me.  I doubt anything is going to happen, but  just pray any way would ya?  And so I just simply bound the demonic king off of her of Babylon.  Removed him off of her and commanded her body to be well.  She said she didn’t feel anything, but three days later she woke up sleeping in her favorite position.  Where she hadn’t been able to sleep like that for years and her body had been healed.

Sid: Well, you know with all of these results you’d  think someone would sit back and say praise you Jesus I got this healing understood.  But you knew that there was so much more and that God was just taking you on a path to understand and the missing revelations of healing.  So your entire team went on what you call a Jesus fast.  What was the fast like?  Was it all meals?

Katie: Yeah, we ate regular food.  What we did was this.  We are going against these demonic kings and we were missing something important otherwise we would have more fruit.  And Lord spoke to me and said, “You are missing the fact that you need to carry more of the presence of My Son, He is the King of kings.  And if you want demonic kings to bow the knee to you you’ve got to become a carrier of His presence and they’ll have to bow the knee because He is the King over every king.  So we began to fast on Jesus.  What do I mean by that?  It wasn’t a food fast it meant that we fasted on everything else but Jesus.  We read all the gospels.  We read all the Old Testament prophecies about Jesus.  We chose worship music that glorified Jesus.  We spent our time in prayer and meditation mediating on Jesus.  Speaking to Jesus, listening for His voice.  So we made it all about Him so that we could become a carrier of Him and then have even more fruit in this revelation that we were getting.

Sid: What did He show you?

Katie: Well, the very first day Sid, I decided I was going to let Holy Spirit customize my experience.  Because Holy Spirit knew what areas I was weak in my understanding about the Messiah.  So as I pressed in, I said Holy Spirit, you tell me about what you want me to know.  And after I worshipped for about an hour in the presence of Jesus, Holy Spirit gave me a couple scriptures.  I heard them in my mind and then I went to them.  Sid, even though they were totally different chapters and totally different books they were all about the same thing.  They were all about people who had just gotten healed by Jesus and afterwards the people around them were saying, who was the man who healed you?  And the answer to that question was always,  the man named Jesus.  And that seems so simple, but for me it was epiphany, it was saying to me the very thing I believe God was telling us to do.  If you get more of Jesus you are going to see more healings.  Because the answer to the question who was the Man who healed you was always going to be the man named Jesus.  So as I began to press into that the Lord began to clean me up to get me ready to carry His presence.  The very next day He gave me more scriptures, in my mind I heard them.  I went to them, even though they are in different chapters, again about the same thing about Jesus cleaning us up.  And then I began to decree those scriptures over my body and I felt heat and power being released.  And I thought, great I’m getting cleaned up, I’m having an encounter.  But later that night the Lord wasn’t even done.  I was in my bed, I got pinned to my bed in a trance and I saw myself walking out of my bathroom and I thought great what do you do in the bathroom, you get rid of the waste and the junk.  I must have gotten rid of it this morning.  But, I wasn’t done, because after I walked out of that bathroom, I started violently dry heaving.  And what do you do when you dry heave?  It means everything  is out of your stomach but the very worst bile at the bottom.  So I knew Jesus was saying.  I’m going deep.  I’m having a supernatural encounter with you right now to get the junkiest junk out of you so that you can carry my presence, the King of kings so you can beat these demonic kings.

Sid: So this was like a vision you saw this was going on in.

Katie: It was almost like a bi location and I don’t think I have time to teach on that but  I was aware that I was pinned to the bed and also aware that I was standing in front of my bathroom.

SID: Hmm okay.

Katie: Okay, and then as I’m feeling this and I’m aware of how peaceful I am as I’m on the bed but also aware how violent the dry heaving was.  An angel came into the room and in the natural I felt him lay on my chest embracing me.  And then I felt his hand in the natural put his hand on my forehead and when he did that, I was cleansed and the dry heaving stopped.

Sid: And what change occurred in your life as a result of this?

Katie: I’m telling you a lot.  Not long after that I had another visitation when Jesus came to visit and what He did was this, I was in my room and we had been focusing on the revelations God was giving us about the demonic kings and He was saying that there was going to be no more curse.  You are going to have the river of life flowing through your ministry.  You are going to have the provision that the trees of Heaven produce every month.  The leaves on the trees are for the healing for the nations, you are going to have those.  And you are going to have the Glory Light of Jesus to heal people’s souls and their bodies.  That was all the promises we’d been getting.  So one day, I’m focused on Jesus in the middle of the Jesus fast and my dog comes in and starts barking.  And I’m looking around to see, he was looking around the room and what does he see?  All of a sudden, I saw it.  A door opened up the supernatural.  Seven angels flew in my room and they flew around and I was like wow, incredible.  But then another presence came into the room and I knew from my Jesus fast, who it was even though I couldn’t see Him. I knew it was Jesus.  And it was so powerful, I put my attention on Him and I began to worship Him and His presence exploded so much.  I was wailing, JESUS for like an hour,  Sid and when I was done I said what was that Lord?   That was Revelation 22:6 and when I went to it.  I did not know the scripture was here.  It said, and He of the seven angels said to me, I’ve come to bring you this message from God that these things are true and must soon come to pass.  I was like, great oh, my gosh Jesus came with His messenger angels to tell me what must soon come to pass.  What is it Lord?  And I read all of Revelations  1-5 before that scripture.  And it was all about the river and the glory light and no more curse and the leaves.  It was everything God had been promising us that was going to happen.  And I knew that I knew that we were going to get it because we had chosen to focus on Messiah Jesus.

Sid: Hmm, but what difference has occurred in your ministry as a result of this?

Katie: A break out, a break out of the supernatural healings.   We are starting to see mass deliverance inside the meetings without having to lay our hand on every single person.  It is just like being released in the atmosphere.  Just by people sitting in their seats.  They are getting healed in their seats, their getting wounds that are in their soul healed in their seats.  The demonic powers that are afflicting their bodies that are attached to those things are being broken off.  We’ve seen people with Bipolar being healed.  Body pains being healed.  Virus’s leaving and so there has…

Sid: Katie, I’m sorry.  Were out of time, but these revelations as she teaches them, the same thing is going to be happening to you and your going to be able to teach.  And the same thing, the whole thing Katie wants to do and I want to do is multiplied this gift.  We don’t need another super star we already have a super star.  His name is Jesus.

Sid: Mishpochah, the family with a Jewish heart. Made up of Jewish and non Jewish people with middle wall of separation has come down between Jew and Gentile finally to form what Paul calls one new man.  This one new man is the full dwelling place of God.  It is as if God has been waiting so long. It started with the Jewish people.  The job of the Jewish believers in Jewish believers in Jesus, were to bring the gospel to the Gentiles. They did a good job. But then the Gentiles failed on their job.  Their job was to bring the gospel back to the Jewish people.  In fact Romans 11:11 says salvation has come to the Gentiles to provoke the Jew to jealousy.  The call of a Gentile Christian is to reach the Jew for Jewish.  Well now Gentile light is coming on Gentile believers.  They are moving in signs and wonders, provoking Jews to jealousy.  Jewish people are coming in because there is something deficient in the body if it is just Gentile believers in Jesus.  There is something deficient in the full dwelling place for God, if there is just Jewish Believers in Jesus.  But when the two come together the full spiritual DNA of the glory of God comes into place and we are going to see the greatest miracles the world has ever seen.  Why?  To reach the world for the gospel.  More Gentiles are going to come to the Lord when the one new man comes together.  So you see why I get so passionate over this and my guest is going to help you move in the dimension of the miraculous.  Her name is Katie Souza.  Katie found that she got a healing anointing but when she prayed for people some would get healed, some would not get healed.  There would be marvelous healings and then she was instructed a missing key about the kingdom of Satan.  You have heard of the kingdom of God, well there’s also a mirror image of the demonic called the kingdom of Satan.  She found out from studying David and Goliath that if she could knock out the Goliath, cut his head off then the entire army of the demonic would give up just as in the story of David and Goliath.  She saw her mom get set free from horrific pain and the drug addiction that was taking care of the pain. And then she went on and you were seeing some amazing breakthroughs, Katie in other areas of healing.  Tell me about them.

Katie: Well, we started seeing all kinds of breakthroughs like in diseases, because Genesis 9 says that we have been given dominion over everything in the earth, the land,  the sea, the sky and all the creepy crawly things.  Well, part of that is the biological kingdom.  Well, if you don’t know who one of the kings is over that kingdom and you remove him first. Then you can command that biological to die.  So we were having people who had pneumonia instantly healed.  We had people that had different illnesses, stomach flues being instantly healed. People with heart attack problems being instantly healed.  A man that had an incision with pus in it and it was instantly healed when we commanded the bad king, the demonic king to come off his hand and they commanded the bad biological in his incision to die.  He even went to the doctor the next day and the doctor said well your incision looks perfect.  Well, yesterday it was infected with puss and the doctor was like, wow what did you do? He said well, we prayed.  So we started to see a really big breakthrough in the area of biological and body pains and all kinds of places.

Sid: Well, I love it.  In your six CD series called the Healing School you take people step by step and the bonus CD that we are offering this week only, which has to do with the glory light.  I have never even heard that taught but it is totally biblical.  I mean that that is a whole new layer, a whole new dimension of healing.  But tell me a couple more types of healing you were seeing.

Katie: Well, we had a woman that had severe body pain for years and years. The kind that she said  that just made you just want to kill yourself.  She had had a lot of people praying for her.  It was like that thing you said, it was like a key missing.  There was something that they weren’t getting to.  So when she came to my conference she came up and she was almost like, she was very discouraged at that point.  She said just pray for me.  I doubt anything is going to happen, but  just pray any way would ya?  And so I just simply bound the demonic king off of her of Babylon.  Removed him off of her and commanded her body to be well.  She said she didn’t feel anything, but three days later she woke up sleeping in her favorite position.  Where she hadn’t been able to sleep like that for years and her body had been healed.

Sid: Well, you know with all of these results you’d  think someone would sit back and say praise you Jesus I got this healing understood.  But you knew that there was so much more and that God was just taking you on a path to understand and the missing revelations of healing.  So your entire team went on what you call a Jesus fast.  What was the fast like?  Was it all meals?

Katie: Yeah, we ate regular food.  What we did was this.  We are going against these demonic kings and we were missing something important otherwise we would have more fruit.  And Lord spoke to me and said, “You are missing the fact that you need to carry more of the presence of My Son, He is the King of kings.  And if you want demonic kings to bow the knee to you you’ve got to become a carrier of His presence and they’ll have to bow the knee because He is the King over every king.  So we began to fast on Jesus.  What do I mean by that?  It wasn’t a food fast it meant that we fasted on everything else but Jesus.  We read all the gospels.  We read all the Old Testament prophecies about Jesus.  We chose worship music that glorified Jesus.  We spent our time in prayer and meditation mediating on Jesus.  Speaking to Jesus, listening for His voice.  So we made it all about Him so that we could become a carrier of Him and then have even more fruit in this revelation that we were getting.

Sid: What did He show you?

Katie: Well, the very first day Sid, I decided I was going to let Holy Spirit customize my experience.  Because Holy Spirit knew what areas I was weak in my understanding about the Messiah.  So as I pressed in, I said Holy Spirit, you tell me about what you want me to know.  And after I worshipped for about an hour in the presence of Jesus, Holy Spirit gave me a couple scriptures.  I heard them in my mind and then I went to them.  Sid, even though they were totally different chapters and totally different books they were all about the same thing.  They were all about people who had just gotten healed by Jesus and afterwards the people around them were saying, who was the man who healed you?  And the answer to that question was always,  the man named Jesus.  And that seems so simple, but for me it was epiphany, it was saying to me the very thing I believe God was telling us to do.  If you get more of Jesus you are going to see more healings.  Because the answer to the question who was the Man who healed you was always going to be the man named Jesus.  So as I began to press into that the Lord began to clean me up to get me ready to carry His presence.  The very next day He gave me more scriptures, in my mind I heard them.  I went to them, even though they are in different chapters, again about the same thing about Jesus cleaning us up.  And then I began to decree those scriptures over my body and I felt heat and power being released.  And I thought, great I’m getting cleaned up, I’m having an encounter.  But later that night the Lord wasn’t even done.  I was in my bed, I got pinned to my bed in a trance and I saw myself walking out of my bathroom and I thought great what do you do in the bathroom, you get rid of the waste and the junk.  I must have gotten rid of it this morning.  But, I wasn’t done, because after I walked out of that bathroom, I started violently dry heaving.  And what do you do when you dry heave?  It means everything  is out of your stomach but the very worst bile at the bottom.  So I knew Jesus was saying.  I’m going deep.  I’m having a supernatural encounter with you right now to get the junkiest junk out of you so that you can carry my presence, the King of kings so you can beat these demonic kings.

Sid: So this was like a vision you saw this was going on in.

Katie: It was almost like a bi location and I don’t think I have time to teach on that but  I was aware that I was pinned to the bed and also aware that I was standing in front of my bathroom.

SID: Hmm okay.

Katie: Okay, and then as I’m feeling this and I’m aware of how peaceful I am as I’m on the bed but also aware how violent the dry heaving was.  An angel came into the room and in the natural I felt him lay on my chest embracing me.  And then I felt his hand in the natural put his hand on my forehead and when he did that, I was cleansed and the dry heaving stopped.

Sid: And what change occurred in your life as a result of this?

Katie: I’m telling you a lot.  Not long after that I had another visitation when Jesus came to visit and what He did was this, I was in my room and we had been focusing on the revelations God was giving us about the demonic kings and He was saying that there was going to be no more curse.  You are going to have the river of life flowing through your ministry.  You are going to have the provision that the trees of Heaven produce every month.  The leaves on the trees are for the healing for the nations, you are going to have those.  And you are going to have the Glory Light of Jesus to heal people’s souls and their bodies.  That was all the promises we’d been getting.  So one day, I’m focused on Jesus in the middle of the Jesus fast and my dog comes in and starts barking.  And I’m looking around to see, he was looking around the room and what does he see?  All of a sudden, I saw it.  A door opened up the supernatural.  Seven angels flew in my room and they flew around and I was like wow, incredible.  But then another presence came into the room and I knew from my Jesus fast, who it was even though I couldn’t see Him. I knew it was Jesus.  And it was so powerful, I put my attention on Him and I began to worship Him and His presence exploded so much.  I was wailing, JESUS for like an hour,  Sid and when I was done I said what was that Lord?   That was Revelation 22:6 and when I went to it.  I did not know the scripture was here.  It said, and He of the seven angels said to me, I’ve come to bring you this message from God that these things are true and must soon come to pass.  I was like, great oh, my gosh Jesus came with His messenger angels to tell me what must soon come to pass.  What is it Lord?  And I read all of Revelations  1-5 before that scripture.  And it was all about the river and the glory light and no more curse and the leaves.  It was everything God had been promising us that was going to happen.  And I knew that I knew that we were going to get it because we had chosen to focus on Messiah Jesus.

Sid: Hmm, but what difference has occurred in your ministry as a result of this?

Katie: A break out, a break out of the supernatural healings.   We are starting to see mass deliverance inside the meetings without having to lay our hand on every single person.  It is just like being released in the atmosphere.  Just by people sitting in their seats.  They are getting healed in their seats, their getting wounds that are in their soul healed in their seats.  The demonic powers that are afflicting their bodies that are attached to those things are being broken off.  We’ve seen people with Bipolar being healed.  Body pains being healed.  Virus’s leaving and so there has…

Sid: Katie, I’m sorry.  Were out of time, but these revelations as she teaches them, the same thing is going to be happening to you and your going to be able to teach.  And the same thing, the whole thing Katie wants to do and I want to do is multiplied this gift.  We don’t need another super star we already have a super star.  His name is Jesus.

 

02 Nov 10 Sid Roth welcomes Julie True

Sid: Now my guest has recaptured the lost art of soaking.  That is right, soaking. Soaking and ever since I found out about it, I do it all the time.  But, I have on the telephone, Cindy Parton.  I’m speaking to her at her home at North Richmond Hills, Texas.  And Cindy had a family crisis and as a result of that, no one had ever taught her about soaking, but Cindy and her husband started soaking.  Tell me about those early experiences Cindy.

Cindy: Well, as we began soaking we found that was the only really true sense of peace that we could ever receive. I mean friends and neighbors and church family was wonderful to encourage us and bless us and tell us that they were praying for us. But once we actually got in the presence of God and began to feel his peace come and faith would begin to rise up.  Because what we had found is, people have been taught how to pray to God all their lives, but no one has ever been taught how to listen to God.  So that’s what we begin to see.  It helped us so much to be able to listen to what God had to say, because we talk all the time and we don’t listen.  And so when we began to listen to what He had to say, He blessed us, He encouraged us.  Because, people have been taught to give, they have never been taught to receive.  So listening, we are learning how to receive what the Holy Spirit wants to say to me.

Sid: Now, after you started doing this as God was directing you, a couple came in to town, the Arnotts from the Toronto Blessing and started teaching about soaking and they took it even a step further.  What did you learn from them?

Cindy: Well, we learned that could have people into your home and it is what we began to do and we would put on a CD and we would tell everyone to just lay down on the floor and just wait in the presence of God.

Sid: Now, you’d been doing this for 15 years and you’ve learned a lot.  You’ve seen a lot in these 15 years. Tell me what highlight things have happened through your soaking.

Cindy: There have been so many things, I mean it’s hard to even explain and talk about, there’s just so much.  But I mean, we’ve seen families restored.  We’ve seen people healed.  We’ve seen people delivered. We’ve seen marriages restored.  There have been so many things happen as people learn to just wait on God.  You know, just wait for Jesus to come and tell them how much He loves them.  How much He cares about them and when you soak you become more intimate with Him and you truly get to know Him.  Not about Him, which we have all heard most of our lives, but we don’t truly know Him.  And, when you soak, you get to know Him. You realize how much He loves you.  How much He cares about you.  People say you know they are more in love with Jesus than they have ever been before, that they know that He has visited them.  They know that they have had an encounter with Him. And when you just lay down, I mean you are just actually totally surrendering to the Holy Spirit.  You get prostrate before the Father and you just say, “Here I am, do what needs to be done in me.” Because, He knows better than we know ourselves what we need.

Sid: Now you had a desperate situation back in 1995. And that’s what led you to desperate measures where you began to understand that by soaking in the presence of God with special anointed music all your spiritual senses would be opened up.  But what happened to your desperate problem.  What happened to your problem?

Cindy: What happened was our teenage daughter had left home in total rebellion. Through us soaking, God healed our hearts and restored us and restored our relationship with her and everything evolving around that situation.  He took care of all of it to where we had such a peace in our heart and such a confidence in knowing that God loved us and if He brought us to this place, He was going to get us to through it.  And it was like we grew so much spiritually during that time and then what He did in us by healing our heart and taking away the pain.  I mean our hearts were broken.  We were shattered, we had never felt, you know, so broken over anything. And by doing all this and we realized what God had done, just us laying on the floor.  Because, sometimes you are in so much pain, so much hurt you don’t know how to pray.  And so we would just put on the anointed music.  We would just lay down in the middle of our living room floor, just Bob and I and we would just lay there and wait until the presence of God just fell on us and as He did, He began to encourage us and just build us up and that we had a peace knowing everything is going to be all right.

Sid: Tell me about Julie True’s soaking music.

Cindy: Well, you know over the years music has been a big part of our life in the last 15 years of soaking and hosting the meetings in our home every Monday night. So, as we found out about Julie True’s music then, we began to soak to her music.  I mean there is such a calming, soothing and as the Holy Spirit comes in and He blows through the music and through the words.  And as the writer expresses them self through what their feeling and what is going on in the room it ministers to people as they soak.

Sid: Now, Cindy Parton has, at my request put together a CD after 15 years of having the best soaking room really, in the world as far as I’m concerned, so many supernatural things are happening there.  She wants to teach you how you can have your own soaking room right in your own home. Just for you, or just for your family, or just for your family and a few friends where you can begin to hear God’s voice, begin to have visions.  Begin to have this interactive communication with God.  Not just one way, two ways and all the secrets she has learned all these years she has put in a CD.

Cindy: We’ll just get in a circle and we’ll just begin to pray.  And we’ll invite the Holy Spirit to come.  We’ll ask Him to do what He wants to do.  We’ll give Him free reign and liberty and that’s what it is all about basically.  Bob and I are just the leaders. We are just the facilitators that is all.  No one has a plan no one has agenda when they come in.  All we are going to do is wait on God, wait on what He has to say and follow His instructions. And then about 7:00 then we will all get in a comfortable position.  Most people will be lying on the floor others will be lying on the couches or just in reclined positions in chairs or where ever they are comfortable at.  I just tell people to get comfortable however you’re comfortable.  So once they get comfortable, we‘ll put on some soaking music, some music that is anointed, something that you know, you can respond to, relate to something that will help you enter into the presence of God.  As people get comfortable and the Spirit of God begins to fall over the room, then I will go around the room or some of our leaders will go around the room and just soak people.  And by that I mean, all we do is just go around and touch them lightly on the head, the shoulders or maybe the feet and just say a prayer blessing over them.  Like, Holy Spirit I bless them.  I ask you to do what you want to do in them tonight.  I ask you to minister to every need they have.  But do this very quietly to where you are not disturbing them incase God is already moving something in them that you don’t want to disturb.

Then, after we have soaked for 30 – 45 minutes to an hour it is according how the Spirit is moving and you ‘ll begin to see how the people are responding.  If you got a lot of people at 30 – 45 minutes getting up to get a drink, go to the rest room or starting to move around than maybe it is time to move on a little bit.  Because, what we found, you know, sometimes peoples back hurt, their bodies get stiff or whatever, lying on the floor.  But when the presence and the anointing of God comes then all that changes also, so just be very sensitive to what the Spirit is doing in the room at the time.  So after 45 minutes to an hour of soaking, then I just begin to pray a prayer. I just bless what God is doing in the room right now.  If I have received a vision myself or if God has given me a word then I’ll begin to pray into that word and I’ll begin to release it out to the group that’s there for that night.  And then I will go into a time and I will ask. What did anyone hear tonight? What did you see?  What did God show you?  Recently, we were doing meetings and this little 12 year old girl came up to me.  We had done a Friday night meeting and she came up on Saturday afternoon and she said I’ve just got to tell you, I had so much fun last night.  I said really, why what happened?  She said, well I have soaked before, but, I have never soaked like we did last night.  She said where I went and we soaked; it was just quiet; nothing happened; it was very still.  But she said it was so fun when God showed up and He touched me. She said, I couldn’t wait to get back today for more.  And that’s what happens, when you feel the love of God, you feel the presence of God, you feel the joy just welling up in you, then that’s when it’s fun.  The teenagers really receive this. The young people are really open because they don’t want the structure of a normal church with their plans and their programs.  They want to presence of God.  They want the real thing.