Our Guest Aliss Cresswell

Aliss Cresswell

Sid: I have to tell you I’ve been looking forward to this interview for a long time. I have a friend that many of you have heard of his name is Rick Joyner. And Rick and I were in his airplane one day and I said “Rick who do you suggest that I interview on my show.” And without blinking an eye he told me about Aliss Cresswell. And she’s from United Kingdom, Chester and he said “I’ll tell you what if you get her to come to the US I will have her speak at my place.” And I said “You got a deal Rick.” And then the more I found out about her Aliss, approximately when you pray for nonbeliever’s and you pray for non-believers all the time what percent get healed would you say?”

Aliss: “Oh, gosh maybe something like 90% I would say.?”

Sid: That’s outrageous, you realize that don’t you.

Aliss: I know it’s amazing.

Sid: You know what I believe that anything Aliss does you can do and maybe you can get to that 100%. And Aliss when you were 11 you saw your first miracle, tell me about that.

Aliss: I did, well I was in my church in Chester and we had an evangelist came to speak to our church. And there was a boy and he was the son of the Pastor and I knew him fairly well, he was younger than I was but he had something wrong with his leg. And his leg was twisted and it was deformed; he leg was too short and he had what we call calapost like a metal brace on his leg. And he couldn’t walk properly; and the evangelist called him to the front and he called all of us children and young people to come up to the front and he said “You’re going to witness a miracle.” And so it was so good because he asked us all to pray; so he got all of us young people and children praying for this young boy. And right in front of my eyes I witnessed my first miracle. The boy took the brace off of his leg and I just saw his leg it twisted back into position where it should be and it grew out quite a few inches and it was right in front of me. And from that day I knew that Jesus loved to do miracles.

Sid: And at 15 you got your first word of knowledge; I have to tell you I didn’t become a believer coming from a traditional Jewish background until I was 30. So you had a head start on me. Tell me about that first word of knowledge and what you do with it? I know with my first word of knowledge I didn’t even know what to do with it.

Aliss: Well, what happened was it was nearly a tease; I’d been in the city of Chester I was a teenager. I was going back home on the bus and I was just sitting looking out the window next to an older lady. And I really felt like God was saying to me “Talk to the woman sitting next to you.” And in my head I was thinking “Oooh I can’t do that, I was actually quite a teenager; so I said in my head “Okay God I will speak to her if You give me something to say to her.” And I didn’t think that God was going to answer to me but He did. And straight away I had the impression that she had a daughter who had a problem with her stomach and she was very ill. So I said to her I said “Excuse me.” Now she was so deaf she couldn’t hear me very well so I had to shout and everybody was watching me and I was so nervous. But I said, I said again “I believe that…I’m a Christian and I believe that God has just told me that you have a daughter that has a problem with her stomach.” And she said “Oh yes, that is true.”

Sid: Now wait a second, when you said that you’re just 15 years old; you must have been trembling.

Aliss: I was so scared and I was a very shy teenager; I didn’t like anybody looking at me or anything. But she said to me “Yes, she’s very sick.” And I said…I didn’t know what to do then. I just felt like well if God’s given me this word for the daughter I’m going to have to pray. So I just grabbed her hand and everybody was looking at me but I didn’t care.

Sid: (Laughing)

Aliss: I prayed out and I said “God please heal her daughter.” And then I looked up and I saw that it was my bus stop so I had to jump off I said “I’ve got to go bye.” And off I went; so I never knew whether she was healed or not but at least I stepped out in obedience.

Sid: Well, you had a breakthrough and there was a key to your breakthrough and I want to make this so clear to those that are listening to us right now. You told me that you spent 12 years crying out to God for the gift of miracles; for more of God. Tell me exactly what you did during those 12 years.

Aliss: Well, what happened was I was reading the gospels and I read that Jesus says to go and tell people about Him in Mark Chapter 16. And that when we place our hands on the sick that they would get well. I was reading scriptures. I was reading about past revivalists you know about Smith Wiggles-worth and Maria Woodsworth Etter and people like this. And I was just getting so hungry reading the scriptures; reading about these past revivalists. And I would pray and I say “God, please use me; please send me and you know I want to go and I want to heal the sick; I want to raise the dead; I want to cast out demons just like You told us to do.

Sid: Now again I’m kind of I have this type of mind I really know that you can’t put God in a box. But I just want to know did you pray that once, did you pray that once a day, did you pray that 10 times a day; what were you doing?

Aliss: Well, I didn’t count but it was very often. And sometimes I would remember I would be up in the night; I would just be crying. I would go into a separate room and I’d be on my knees and I would be praying and I’d be crying out. I would be fasting, it was just like an ongoing thing over those 12 years. I saw some almost miracles but they didn’t quite happen. But what I found was that I you know a lot of people would you know give up. Whether it’s contending for your own healing or whether you want to see other people get well when you pray for them; whether you’re contending for your own business or science or what every it is people often give up to easily. But what I found was because I kept going and I was contending for 12 and it was 12 very long years I did not give up. I would not let…

Sid: Why didn’t you give up, that’s what I want to understand.

Aliss: Because I want to do what God says, because I have a very simple faith; I don’t complicate things. I read some thing that God can do it that He can use me; that He wants to use me; I read that other people could do it. And I thought “Why no me, why not now; I’m going to do it and I just did not give up.” And what I found was you know eventually the breakthrough happened and when you do have a breakthrough and you’ve been contending all of those years you know for whatever how long it is. But not only do you step into that breakthrough but the door is wide open for other people to step into that breakthrough too.

Sid: Well, there’s 2 things going on; number one what I’ve noticed is if let’s suppose you’ve had a healing for a tumor on the brain you have faith to pray for anyone that has a tumor on the brain to be healed. The same principal you’ve had your breakthrough and when you pray for people they get their breakthrough. But there’s another thing going on; heaven is coming closer to earth than ever before in history. We are as the Traditional Jewish Rabbis’ say “We are in the footsteps of Messiah; He’s ready to return.” So everything is happening quickly I believe.

Aliss: Yes. Yeah, that’s true and it’s speaking up.

Sid: Okay, now you don’t know this but Aliss and her husband have started Cafe’s and Gift Stores. And I love it in the display window what does the sign say in your stores.

Aliss: It says “Free today, healings and miracles.

Sid: And you would think that no one would pay attention to that sign but that’s not true is it?

Aliss: It’s incredible the amount of people that come into the store just by walking past and they see the sign and they come in and they say “Tell, me about the miracles.” They say “How much is it for a free miracle; how long will it take? (Laughing)

Sid: (Laughing) Okay, in 2009 you opened a Cafe and you know with this sign in the window and the miracles started. Now tell me was it gradual or was it just an explosion that happened?

Aliss: Well, it happened with one teenager; and it happened to be the teenager that the police had warned us about. Because our Cafe was opened it was in a deprived area with lots of crime and drugs. And so this guy comes in and so we got a word of knowledge for him and then he’s freaked out by the word of knowledge. And then I noticed that he was limping and I asked him what he had done? And he was climbing a roof of a house and fell off. Because often these people that we have in our cafe are trying to break into houses or they’re involved in crime. And he’d broken his ankle but he didn’t go to the hospital because they would find out what he’d been up to. So we just prayed for his ankle and told the bones to reconstruct and come back into place. And instantly the bones did as they were told by the Name of Jesus he was healed. He walked off and he said “Thank you very much I’m fine now.” And he walked out without a limp; completely healed by Jesus.

Sid: And you knew that…did you sense this was the beginning of something big?

Aliss: Well, that was after 12 years, if you could imagine I had been praying after 12 years without seeing miracles and then suddenly that happened. And then the next week during that week you know we open the cafe and more bones were healed; we had just…it really took off instantly and it hasn’t stopped and that was 5 years ago.

Sid: You know when I study the scriptures the New Testament in particular and the life of Jesus what I see is that Jesus said follow me and do what I do. Well, that’s what you’re doing Aliss. And you have 2 books, one book is called “A Diary of Miracles Part One.” The other is Part Two. And you have 2 CD’s entitled “Moving in the Power of Healing and Miracles.” And I believe that as people read your life and I mean your life it reads like the book of Acts. I mean some of these things are so amazing; and of course we’re told if everything in the book that Jesus did was in the Bible there wouldn’t be enough books to contain it. I believe that as people walk along with you through your books and your CD’s and your special prayers of impartation they’ll do the same things that you do.

Our Guest Steve Gray

Steve Gray

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have such a passion for God; I have my good friend Pastor Steve Gray on the telephone from World Revival Church in Kansas City. He has had 8 years of a flow of God’s River and he says the flow is getting stronger. Whereas many churches that have put their foot in the River are now going back to dead Christianity. Well, Messiah is alive and Christianity is alive and there must be something more. And many of you are listening to me because you can sense the presence of the living God on this broadcast. And you know that I interview people that are flowing in the power of God, but I have an ulterior motive; my ulterior motive you don’t have to be real intellectual to figure it out. I am an evangelist; I want to see souls saved in and a New Covenant Evangelist major job is not going out themselves and preaching the gospel but equipping the saints to claim the gospel. And that’s why I believe God intrusted to me an I do mean intrusted to me; a few years ago I had a dream in which God Himself came to me and instructed me to write a book and told me that large numbers of Jewish people would come to know Him through this book. Well, I was obedient; today this book is in 7 languages getting ready to go into it’s 8th language. We have over a half a million of these books in print; most of them in the Russian language because the most open Jewish people group on the face of this earth are Russian Jews. And I mean if you can just at academy rewards night and there will be academy rewards night in heaven; academy rewards night in heaven if that’s all we did at this strategic time in history is to get these 100’s of 1000’s of evangelistic books that God instructed me to right. It’s 10 Jewish testimonies it’s called “They Thought for Themselves” and if all we did was get that…because you see in the former Soviet Union for instance we have this book; we’ve just shipped 3500 to a place I don’t even know where it is in the former Soviet Union and it’s called Purim. We sent a 1000 books to Magadem; that’s in Siberia; that I know because I was there. Steve do you remember seeing on the 700 Club a few years ago when I was in Siberia and some Neo-Nazi’s walked into my meeting?

Steve: Yeah, I remember seeing that program; yes.

Sid: I mean that’s an experience and you know here in America we think that’s an impossibility but I was in a meeting and some Neo-Nazi’s came in with guns; and with signs kill the Jew. And I mean that’s…you’re supposed to see that in the movies it’s not supposed to happen in real life. Listen to this; there’s a region that was called “The Jewish Kingdom” at one time in the former Soviet Union and we’re shipping a large number of books there. There are Jewish people in Siberia and in this particular area of the former Soviet Union that would never, ever hear the gospel if we couldn’t send these books. But here’s what I believe; I believe and I know that Steve believes this. I believe that if you’re listening to me it’s because God has directed you to listen to me. And I believe that if you get a copy of this book “They Thought for Themselves” 10 Jewish people from different walks of life. I mean 1 a concert pianist; another a mega millionaire; another a PhD; a Holocaust Survivor; another a former New Age Guru. Jewish people from all walks of life that have thought for themselves and come to know the Messiah. I want you to read this book for yourself and then I tell you God will tell you who to give this book to. ….because this is God’s time to reach God’s People with the gospel. And we have so many new programs that we’re doing and we’re coordinating more and we’ll talk about it perhaps on tomorrow’s broadcast. But my friend Steve Gray has been in one of the longest, continuous revival in US history it’s going on 8 years now. And Steve I remember when you first started; you’ve always as long as I’ve known you you’ve had a Jewish heart. But in Smithton, Missouri there aren’t any Jews there. Tell me how you got a Jewish heart in that tiny little city.

Steve: I had just a miraculous time with God in May the following year it started in March in 1996 and in May off 1997. And suddenly something happened to me and I began to open in the Book of Romans and begin to read in the Book of Roman’s there in Chapter 9, 10, 11, 12 that section. There was such powerful statements of Israel and they just struck me and they became alive to me. So I walked into that service that night and I preached it the way I’d seen it and my church; the church they saw it with me there was so much God I guess we were just getting our eyes opened and we got a new revelation of the importance of Israel. And I guess the big thing that happened is you know that Israel is a special case that has to go through the tribulation to be saved. I don’t know Sid if you’ve ever been taught that but a lot of us who went through Bible School and all of the traditional stuff. You know the church being the Gentiles; the non-Jews they’re all going…they’re the bride and the Jews were the people that weren’t the bride but they could still be saved but they had to be saved in the tribulation or various teachings on that. And I just immediately saw that’s ridiculous. And I said “These are the most neglected people on the face of the earth when it comes to evangelism and God wants to do something in them right now.” And the night I preached that a man was there who has a heart for Israel and he had fortunately had the money and he bought Kathy and I two tickets to Israel and paid our way and said “Go scout out the land and see what you think.” And so my first trip to Israel was within weeks of that sermon and I’ve been different ever since. And I believe that what God did in my heart and in my church at that time was as you and I know is to provoke the Jews to believe and to provoke them to jealousy. And I went over there the next trip and I flew El El and you know how they do security; you know the security there is so wo…it’s really good. If you’re in a hurry I guess you don’t think it’s good but it’s great security and a young lady was one of their security; you know they take you to several people and they split Kathy and I up so they see if we’d get our stores straight because we were going over there to be with Jews.

Sid: I hope you didn’t tell them that did you?

Steve: Well, they want to know what tour group we were going to be with. You know there was no tour group, no tour guide. I said “I’m going to go over there and see some of these people.” Well, immediately it kind of made them suspicious of us you know “Who are these people?” So finally went through everything; finally got us back together again, they looked through our luggage and this girl whose part of security comes up and says “Well I need to know why you’re going to Israel, what are you going for?” So the Lord just began to work and suddenly Kathy did most of the talking because it was a young lady and Kathy is very enthusiastic and I added my points too. And we began to tell how the glory of God had come down to this little town of Missouri; touched us with His power and the things that we began to see and the things that we began to hear. And as we were talking to her about the glory coming down; now this is a non-believing Jewish girl probably mid-twenties or probably 26 or 27 years old listening to us and as we began to talk about the glory coming down tears filled in her eyes and tears started coming down her cheeks. Now this is in Newark, New Jersey in the airport standing there getting interrogated so to speak. Tears running down her face; I continue to tell the story and it touch my husband and he began to jump up and down and be so free. And tears running down her face and she looked at me and she said “Shouldn’t that be happening in Israel?” And and I said “Yes!” And that’s why I’m going.” And she said “Then, come on through” and she let us on through. Amazing story of showing what God really wants to do in the hearts of Jewish people.

Sid: And you know what I find interesting I’m one of these people I feel the presence of God; and while you were sharing about what she said to you that Israel needs this, the anointing or the manifest presence of God just started pouring through this microphone.

Steve: Yep

Sid: I believe it’s pouring through radio’s right now and cassette players. As people are listening to us. Steve you have such a heart for the Jew in Israel; but I believe that you can pray for people to have a heart like Esther, a heart like Ruth would you do that right now.

Steve: Yeah, because I know it happened to me. “Jesus; Yeshua we ask you now to touch the hearts of the listeners; believer’s; non-believers help them get the vision; help them have their eyes open so they understand what the Spirit is saying right now that God want to move in Israel this strategic need as all the religions of the world practically look to Israel as the central; as the home as the mecca; as the Holy City; whatever place they call it with their different religions. When it happens in Israel the whole world sees. And we know God you want to show Yourself to the nations; how better Lord, how better Yeshua than to spring forth out of Israel in an undeniable move of God where Your presence is there in Biblical proportions. So open ours eyes today Yeshua to understand the necessity and the need and the possibility that You could spring forth coming down in glory and then going out as an outpouring to the nations from Israel; through the Jews and the non-Jews alike; just like it was in the early church where they came together and the power of God was visible and it shook cities and it changed lives. Do it again and plan it in our hearts; help us to see it in the Spirit realm it happening and believe it and act upon our faith in the Name of Yeshua we pray! Amen.

Sid: I’ll tell you something Steve you’re making me home sick and of course as a Jew my home is; I’m proud of being an American but my home is Israel.

Our Guest Dr. Reggie Anderson


Sid: Have you ever been concerned about death? Have you ever been worried about what’s it going to be like? Is there going to be pain involved? Will I enjoy this place called heaven? What about all of my loved ones? You’ve got so many questions about heaven you probably haven’t even processed it. You haven’t even thought much about it; but I have a guest who has been there. And he’s not only been there he’s very credible. He award winning medical doctor; he is Chief of Staff at the Tri-State Ashland City Medical Center in Tennessee. He’s been in family practice in an Emergency Room for over 25 years. So Dr. Reggie Anderson is in medical school and he’s become an atheist and medical school just pushed him over even further if that’s possible. Because his God is facts and not the God of the Bible. There was a horrible tragedy in his life; people that he considered like uncles and close relatives. There were actually distant relatives he spent so much time with. Were involved in one of the worst mass murders in the history of the State of Georgia, and he cried out to God “Why?” And he walked away, he blamed God. He became an atheist; but then in medical school their examining a dead body and this is in Anatomy Class, and he looks at it and Reggie as you said in your book “You looked at this woman and you said “She’s a work of art.” What did you mean by that?

Dr. Anderson: Well exactly what I said “It could not have happened by accident.” The whole idea of evolution and random things coming together to make the human being was not possible. I mean it broke way to many physical laws to get to that point. I mean she was beautiful and even though she… her spirit was no longer there. Her soul had already been taken but there her body was that was left behind for us to examine and to learn as medical students. I had no other explanation than a creative force had made this being in front of me.

Sid: So God’s working on that area of your life and then you fall in love; you’re smitten a girl by the name of Karen, but there’s a problem this Karen is sold out to Jesus. She quickly finds out that you’re not; sure she wants you to be saved but then you overhear her speaking to some of her girlfriends and she’s talking about you and she saying “Pray for Reggie because he’s an atheist and he’s a kind of like a stalker.” So did you kind of just dismiss Karen when you heard that?

Dr. Anderson: You know as a medical student I really had plenty of dates, but this was really the first woman or the first person that had challenged my life journey as an atheist.    

Sid: Beyond the fact that you were smitten with her was she making any sense at that point in our life with her apologetic and her arguments?

Dr. Anderson: You know it was starting to I guess bother me as an atheist you know, I just spent time in the cadaver lab and had kind of come to a point that okay, maybe there is a God out there, but I didn’t have a personal relationship. And that was really where she was challenging me. You know I actually told her I said you know she said one of the reasons she wouldn’t date me is because I was not a Christian. And the only thing I could respond to her was that well my parents are.

Sid: That’s close; that’s in the family. (Laughing) Okay, I’m going to fast forward you now because there’s so many exciting things I mean he has prayed for so many people as they were passing from this life to the next. When you find out the experiences that he had totally demystify this thing called death or going to heaven. But July 4, 1980 it was an historic date in your life; it changed everything, everything about your life Dr. Anderson, tell me about it.

Dr. Anderson: Absolutely, well Karen had challenged me and given me a book called “Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis and I took that….

Sid: You know I got that book too and I have to tell you when I read it my mind was in such a fog I mean being Jewish and having no paradigm on the Bible or anything else. You know I read a couple of pages but that was about it; but what affect did it have on you?

Dr. Anderson: Well I and he is not the easiest person to read but I sat down by myself on a camping trip by the fire and I read straight through it. It just for some reason my mind was open. Because Karen had asked me to pray one prayer before I went on this camping trip “That God if You’re real reveal Yourself to me.” And so I was open to the idea that there was a God and if He was there He would reveal Himself. So I read straight through “Mere Christianity” and my mother had sent a Bible to me when I was in college and she knew that I was struggling with religion. But she sent this Bible that I used more as a book to hold the door open than anything.

Sid: That’s better than most people’s homes they just put it on a book shelf but go ahead.

Dr. Anderson: (Laughing) But anyway I read the Gospel of John because that had been recommended as a good starting point. And so as soon as I closed the Bible that evening I fell asleep and I fell into a deep deep dream. And in that dream Jesus came to me and He spoke He said “Reggie, why are you running from me, your friends are here with me in paradise and I turned and I in my dream I could clearly see Jimmy and Jerry and their entire family.

Sid: This was the family that was involved in the mass murder and rape, go ahead.

Dr. Anderson: And they were all happy and glowing and healed and wanted to be there and did not want to come back here to earth. I knew that’s where I wanted to go and to be with Jesus. He said to me in the next sentence “Reggie if you’ll stop running and turn and follow Me, and listen to My words all of what I will tell you will come true.” And then He began to tell me that I would marry this young lady who wouldn’t even go out with me because an atheist.

Sid: And almost a stalker, but go ahead. (Laughing)

Dr. Anderson: Exactly, that I would have 4 children and that I would practice medicine in rural Tennessee. And so I woke up from this mystifying dream and I knew that my life had changed, that my spiritual chemistry had turned 180 degrees that I was a new man.

Sid: What about the big thing that caused you to become an atheist and that was the mass murder of your close friends that you’d spent so much time with? What were your thought about that?

Dr. Anderson: Well I could clearly see them and I knew that they were happier where they were now then where they were then. And I knew that everything had come to pass was for a reason. And that God had brought this entire family to His bosom quicker through this tragic event and there were no more questions about why it happened and where was God? God was right there in the midst of it and they did not want to come back to earth; they wanted to stay there in paradise and I knew that at that moment that was the answer.    

Sid: And in your book you say that “When you get to heaven you’ll have all the answers for why.” In the mean time you saw the fruit of what their life was like and so why should you be grieving now.

Dr. Anderson: Right, exactly I don’t want to stay here any longer than I have to but you know God has asked me to be here on earth to continue to minister to others and try to bring more into the fold and into the family…

Sid: You know I had a close friend that was a doctor that’s now in heaven and his name was Dr. Richard Eby and he spent many, many hours in heaven which totally changed his life also. And I wrote a book called “Heaven is Beyond Your Wildest Expectations” in which I interviewed some of the best witnesses I’ve ever found that have gone to heaven and to come back to report about it. And two of them were very close friends of mine. But I’ll tell you something “Your book is so credible that if someone is an atheist I think it’ll put a crack in their atheism.” If someone is looking for answers because why bad things happen to good people so to speak; why tragedy occurs it’s going to give them answers. If someone is fearful of death even if they’re a believer and they shouldn’t be it’s going to totally demystify deaf and I have to tell you Dr. Anderson your book is as credible as you are and I believe many… I have such a burden for college students that are getting fed this atheism as if it’s normal that I’ll tell you what I’d like to give this book to every college student in the world. But your book “Appointments with Heaven” and my book “Heaven is Beyond Your Wildest Expectations.” And a special DVD we did at the It’s Supernatural Mentoring Center in Charlotte, North Carolina in which you answer questions about death, and everyone listening has got questions. It is going to take all fear out of death; it’s going to change your whole paradigm for life.


Our Guest Francis Hunter

Frances Hunter

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to literally become a fool for the Messiah. Now what do I mean by that? I mean that there will be people that will say “Oh, you’re a fool you tell people about Jesus; you pray for the sick if you see anyone sick; you’re not like most people you’re a fool.” Well, let me tell you something you got a choice of being God’s fool or the devil’s fool. I choose God; who do you choose? I have on the telephone someone who’s probably more fanatic than I am for the Messiah; her name is Francis Hunter. I’m speaking to her at her office in Houston, Texas. And most believer’s know Charles and Francis Hunter as the ones that are willing to do anything God says. Francis you just celebrated your 88th Birthday and your still going strong.

Francis: Yes.

Sid: I want to take you back many, many years right now for the audience that doesn’t know you. You were…would you call yourself just a church goer before you knew the Messiah or you weren’t even that?

Francis: I was a wild sinner.

Sid: That’s what I said “You can be a fanatic as a sinner or you can be fanatic for God there is no in between. So you were all the way as a fanatic sinner. What made the difference briefly?

Francis: Well, I’ll tell you one day well I had to have eye surgery. I had to have the lens of one eye removed because of an automobile accident. And when I was in the hospital as a wild sinner and I had gotten drunk before I got there because I didn’t know any other way to fill that God shape vacuum. And God wrote my name in blood in the pages of my Bible. I saw the finger of God be descend from heaven and it was dipped in the blood of Jesus. In my Bible He wrote “Francis Gardner”. That was my name then; now on the other page He wrote “I love you.” And if you’ve ever seen your name written in the blood of Jesus where God said “I love you.” You can never be the same again and that was the thing that started me on my search for God. And when I accepted Jesus I often say “He opened my mouth and I haven’t shut it from that day to this.” And I don’t intend to. (Laughing)

Sid: Now if Francis was fanatic before she was baptized in the Holy Spirit imagine what happened when she got married to Charles and both of them together were baptized in the Holy Spirit. What difference did it make in your life Francis?

Francis: Well, it just changed your life forever because God rewrote the Bible once I got the Baptism with the Holy Spirit. I saw things in there that I never saw before and I understood things in there that I never understood before and it gave us a power that we never had before the power to heal the sick. Which I think is one of the greatest blessings that God gives to every believer who accepts the baptism of the Holy Spirit. You have the power to lay hands upon the sick; the same power that Jesus had and see them recover.

Sid: Out of curiosity before you were baptized in the Holy Spirit did you pray for the sick?

Francis: Yes, but they didn’t get healed.  

Sid: And well, but I have to say this to you there are many Charismatic Christians that are baptized in the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues at least once when they got baptized in the Holy Spirit which is wrong by the way. You want to do what Paul says “I pray in tongues more than any man.

Francis: Yeah.

Sid: However, let’s be candid Francis most Charismatic, most Pentecostal churches you don’t see that many miracles there; so what’s the problem?

Francis: It’s because they don’t use the power of God that they had. They don’t know how and that’s why we wrote the book “How to Heal the Sick.” So that everybody would know that they can heal the sick. As a matter of fact we’re having healing schools all over the United States now with our DVD and video tapes. And just Monday night and Healing Class at Lakewood Church we had over 100 healings by the people that we had already taught 2 lessons to so far.

Sid: Now are you seeing more people healed today than say a year ago or 20 years ago?

Francis: Definitely, definitely, definitely.

Sid: So we’re getting closer to that prophecy that I read about on yesterday’s broadcast by Tommy Hicks.

Francis: Yes.  

Sid: Now let’s go to your book a little bit. Chapter 3 very intriguing chapter. You quote Mark Chapter 16 verse 17 and 18 in which Messiah said “Those who believe shall lay hands on the sick and they shall pray for a half hour, they shall work up tremendous emotions; they shall roll on the floor, they shall kick and they shall holler and they shall scream and they shall shake. No, that’s not what it says; what does it really say?

Francis: It very simply says “Those who believe shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. They shall recover. But you see one of the things that I feel is so important you have to believer first of all that God want’s you well. Number 2 you’ve got to believe when you stretch forth your hand to lay it on the sick that’s the hand of Jesus being extended on the people today. Because if Jesus lives inside of You and he better live inside of you then those are the only hands that Jesus has on the earth today are yours and mine.

Sid: You know what I think Francis; we drum up all of this religious tradition whether it’s non-charismatic or whether it’s the charismatic and we think that we need all of these things. But it’s really if there is one trait that that I think of when I think of Charles and Francis Hunter; you know what I think of? Childlike.

Francis: Yes.

Sid: Not complex.

Francis:   No.

Sid: Not something that only the very elect; the very top echelon can walk into; you bring it down to our level.

Francis: Amen.

Sid: And you know something when the Messiah spoke He spoke to people that were fisherman; people that they didn’t have great…I mean Paul the Apostle he had some pretty good training but he was the exception.

Francis: Amen, well and you see neither Charles or I ever went to Bible School or Bible College or anything like that. We just read the Bible over and over again discovering how Jesus did it. And then we thought we’ll try the same things that Jesus did and we discovered that it works. And so then we discovered if it works for us it works for other people as well.

Sid: Well, how does someone handle this; they’ve been a believer for many years; they’ve seen the Spirit of God move; they’ve felt the presence; they’ve slain in the Spirit; they’ve prayed for lots of people but very few are healed. Now there’s such negativity in a person like this will this book have enough of an anointing to bust through that?

Francis: I think that it will totally break through that wall that people have that think that they can’t do it. That’s why I set up these healing schools that we’re having it’s absolutely incredible. People sitting there…well week before last we had a lady healed of multiple sclerosis. And she came back the next week and she said that “She had not walked in 13 years without 2 canes” and she said “I can run all over the place.” So our daughter said to her “Who laid hands on you? She said “Who prayed for you?” She said “I have no idea. You see it was just a believer; it wasn’t Charles and Francis; it wasn’t our daughter Joan it was just a believer that laid hands on her after she had read the book “How to Heal the Sick” and attended a healing seminar. But you see if you’ve got the baptism of the Holy Ghost you’ve got the power that I’ve got and Sid Roth has got. The only thing is you have to use that power; you have to be willing to believe that that Holy Ghost power is resident within you. Well just like they brought a lady into my office last week who had this massive goiter on the front of her neck.

Sid: Hmm, hm.

Francis:   And she didn’t speak a word of English and my Spanish is very poor so we couldn’t communicate very well except I could see what her problem was. And all I did was just laid hands on that huge goiter and I said “In Jesus Name, and there was no goiter left.” That woman absolutely had a Pentecostal Sid in Spanish (Laughing) right there in my office.

Sid: You know you hear stories about this in foreign countries.

Francis: But it happens here; as a matter of fact some people from Korea brought their little girl in this morning who was cross eyed and Charles just laid hands on her and the child eyes are perfectly straight.

Sid: Tell me because you know I read this in the book but I’ve got to hear this from your own mouth. Tell me about the 38 people that were healed of deafness in Colorado.

Francis: (Laughing) That was one of the most unusual nights that I have ever seen in my entire life. Because every once and awhile God gives you something that is really unusual. Let me tell you also before I tell you this can I tell you something that just fascinates me.

Sid: As long as we have time; go for it.

Francis: God does; you can’t put God in a box you’ve got to let God do it his way. We were down in…

Sid: I have to interrupt you; that’s why the book is so important. She shows you all of the different ways that God operates and one of those the Holy Spirit’s going to jump out at you but when you understand this your understanding the ways of God. But go ahead.

Francis: Okay, but here we are in Panama and we just ministered healing and then we had the healing teams go out and now these are just ordinary people just you know like the book said washer woman, window washers you know and all of that kinds of stuff. And all of these people just went through this tremendous crowd and then the people came up on the stage to tell what they were healed of. And so the first one said “I was blind in one eye; I was totally healed because I see perfectly now. Well I thought that was wonderful. But then the second person came up and I said “What was your problem?” They said I was blind in one eye but now I see. Well, I thought well that was absolutely wonderful. The third person came up and said the exactly the same thing. I did not realize that there were so many people that were blind in one eye. But you know what we had over 500 people that night; healed of blindness in one eye. We had one man that was blind in two eyes; and he was totally healed. But it was fascinating.

Sid: Say it again though, say that it’s not just you it’s anyone that has God within them that has Jesus within them.

Francis: You see we weren’t laying hands on them it was the people in Panama who had been trained to do just the same thing that we do. They did the same thing that’s in the book “How to Heal the Sick.” And all of those deaf eyes were open.

Sid: Okay, consider yourself on notice; God wants to use you. Are you going to say “Yes” or are you going to say “No.”


Our Guest Bob Fischer

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah. But you know something there has been within traditional Judaism so much tradition that that has worked in that it’s hard to see God. It’s hard to have an experience with God; it’s hard to even see the Messiah within traditional Judaism. But that same leaven has creeped into traditional Christianity. The thing that’s started by Jews by the one who went… He died it said on the cross “The King of the Jews.” The thing that you had to actually convert to Judaism to even be a follower of Messiah has become opposite of Judaism today. Why did this happen? But even more important than that, why is God restoring what I believe is the same vitality and vibrancy and miraculous where each person was a worker. The first believer’s in the Messiah did not have a written New Testament. The first believer’s in the Messiah did not have what we call churches. The first believer’s in the Messiah did not have Bible Schools. The first believer’s in the Messiah did not have great articulate speakers. The first believer’s in the Messiah had an encounter with Jesus; the least believer would lay hands on the sick and the sick would recover. They each had a job to do and it was vibrant; it was as a matter of fact I almost hate to call it Christianity because when we use the word Christianity we think in the stereotype of what it’s evolved to today. I really believe that Christianity is a misnomer. It should be New Covenant Judaism where the Messiah broke down the middle wall of separation between two people groups. The only two that existed Jew and Gentile and made them something brand new One New Man. But there is reasons why these things happened and there’s reasons why you as a Gentile Christian for the first time perhaps in your life are beginning to say “I want to know my roots; I want to know what that first Church was like; I want to get as close to the Messiah as I can; I want to fulfill my destiny. And God is drawing Gentile Christian’s by His Spirit to have a restoration of what that first church was like. Part of that restoration is to understand that what the culture was like at the time. Now on yesterday’s broadcast and I have and I’m speaking to him from his home in Tiberias, Israel. I have today my friend Dr. Bob Fischer. We’re talking about his new DVD that he just came out with that he called “The Jewish Origins of Christianity.” It’s actually a college level course which you can find out how you can get credits for it if you want it. But most people aren’t going to want to do it for a college level credits they’re going to want to do it because they want to understand Jesus; they want to understand what was going on in the New Covenant. They want the New Covenant to have that further dimension of understanding the culture because it changes a lot of the thinking in the New Covenant when you understand the Jewish culture which Jesus took for granted everyone understood it when He was writing His various letters. But today it’s been so denuded from the Church. And one of the most fascinating things Bob as I’ve taken your course is the 3 major people groups within Jews at the time Jesus came. Two we know the Pharisees and Sadducees. And as a matter of review tell me a little bit about those 2 groups that most Christians have heard of.

Bob:   Yes Sid, well the Sadducee were the people from the aristocratic class of Jewish society at the time. They were they rejected all scripture apart from the Torah and they maintained this elaborate sacrificial system in the temple. They made up most of the Sanhedrin and they were basically apart from the people and they had a theology that was very narrow in its origin. They didn’t believe in bodily resurrection or even an afterlife. And so when the temple went away so closely tied to temple when the temple was destroyed in ’70 they just basically vanished and they didn’t leave a legacy.

Sid: Well what did the Pharisees believe in?

Bob: Pharisees had a different view; they did believe in bodily resurrection and they did believe ultimately that there would be a Messiah. But a totally different Messiah than we understand having learned from the Essenes. They believed the Pharisees believed in a Messiah that would come at the end of days to right all of the world’s problems. He would be a king and a prophet and a great military leader. But they emphasized that he would by no means be Divine, he would not be in anyway a god. They were offended by the very notion of that. So they were quite different. So they evolved; the important thing to understand is that the Pharisees became what today is Rabbinical Judaism. But this third group the Essenes it’s important for us to point to them because they were the precursors of all subsequent Christianity.

Sid: And yet we don’t hear much about them. Where did you get most of your understanding for the Essenes for the course you did?

Bob: Well I did a lot of research Sid. I found a great deal of information in early Roman Catholic writings interestingly enough where the church fathers were speaking out against the Nazarene Jewish Believers by reference to the Essenes they’re selves.

Sid: So when we read about Nazarenes that was the Essenes that believed in Jesus?

Bob: The Nazarenes were to start out with were around before Jesus showed up. They were the principal subgroup of the Essenes. And when Yeshua came along and appeared they were the ones who embraced Him in droves. And in one day you know as we appointed out there were 3000 that came into the faith. And they became known as the Nazarenes; they’re referred to in the Book of Acts as the Nazarenes. They’re also referred to as the Way. So you don’t have any references directly to the Essenes probably because Yeshua was fighting against the teachings of the Sadducees and the Pharisees but He was very much in consonance with the teaching of the Essenes, who He and Paul and others referred to as the Way and the Nazarenes.

Sid: Okay, what was their lifestyle like as Believers?

Bob: Well there were 2 groups if we’re talking about the Essenes we’re talking about the group at Qumran which was considerably smaller they were celibate Monks. But the main body of the Essenes were a variety of communities that were not celibate. But they functioned in the same belief system of Qumran and they were all over the Galilee and they were all over Judea and Samaria and all over Syria, what today is modern day Syria.   There was something like you know by the estimate that I tend to adhere to that there was something like 400,000 of these people at one point in time. But I’ve heard estimates that there was as many as a million who had ultimate by the end of the first century converted to the understanding that Yeshua was the Messiah.

Sid: Now how did something that started so Jewish shift gears and become what is known today as the opposite of Judaism? How was what is called Judaism how was it hijacked by the Pharisees rather than the Essenes who were the forefathers of Christianity? I mean how did all of this happen?

Bob: Well the Essenes basically disappeared; I mean they didn’t disappear they became the Nazarenes that ultimately became the beginnings of Messianic Judaism if you will. But the important thing here is that Paul and others you know Peter went out particularly Paul went out. And in 4 monumentally successful journeys to the Gentile world the Gentile Christian Church was created. And the Gentile Christian Church is a wonderful institution but at the time of its origination it combined many of the paganistic understandings of the local culture. So what we ended up with were a variety of blends of pure Torah understanding and pure understanding of who Yeshua was blended with a variety of these paganistic understandings.

Sid: Now why did… I know we can only speculate, but within Judaism it’s so important to separate the clean from the unclean as you read the Old Covenant.   How come they merged the two within early Christianity?

Bob: Well there was a big argument between Paul and the group on Mt. Zion over this very issue. You know the argument was “What did Gentiles have to do to become part of this movement?” And they finally came to grips with it and the council of Jerusalem met in ’49 and while Peter and others held on and said “Look, these people have to be circumcised; they have to be fully Torah compliant.” Paul spoke very strongly against this notion he said “Let’s keep it limited.” So in the results in the Council of Jerusalem there was simply 4 things that came out. Four very fundamental things: 1) They weren’t supposed to drink or they weren’t supposed to eat blood. 2) They were to refrain from sexual immorality and so forth. You know there were 4 fundamental things that really were simplistic for them. So the point I’m getting to is that they didn’t have to keep Biblical Kosher that didn’t apply to them. They didn’t have to be circumcised; they didn’t have to keep Torah it wasn’t required. They had to do 4 rather simple things.

Sid: But how did they make the shift… not only did they add paganism but they denuded the Church of any of its Jewish roots. Why did they do that?

Bob: Probably because the architect of this thing was a man named “Constantine the Ist.” Who in 313 AD declared that Christianity would be the state religion. And …

Sid: I’m sorry Bob we’re out of time we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast.

Our Guest Judy Jacobs

Judy Jacobs

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to walk in the anointing that God has destined just for you. That’s why I have Judy Jacobs and we’re releasing her new book “You Are Anointed for This” because Judy has paid the price and she walks in an anointing similar to what you read about in the book of Acts as you’ve heard this week. But you have a unique anointing and she is determined for you to understand how the anointing operates and understand what your unique anointing is for the end times and how to develop that anointing. She teaches and then she has a special prayer for you at the end of each chapter and it’s a how to step by step to walk into your destiny. Now Judy, there are people that listen to your music over and over and over and over again. Tell me about the woman the woman that was working the night shift.

Judy: Well, let me just say this, the devil is constantly lying to us Sid telling us that we’re all alone that this thing is not real. He tells you that God’s word is not true but one thing we need to understand is that when the devil speaks he speaks his native language which is a lie. Jesus said “I will never leave you or forsake you. I will go with you always even to the end of the world.” And so it comes down to you know that this young girl was working at a restaurant, a little small restaurant, and she was doing the night shift, but she loves my CD “There’s No God Like Jehovah.” And so every time that she was assigned the night shift she would always take my CD “There’s No God Like Jehovah” and that was her favorite song out of all the songs on the CD that was her favorite. So she’d put it on in the back and she put it on repeat so the whole time that she’s working the night shift like you know 3 or 4 hours 5 hours she’s got this song playing continuously. It got to be pretty late when it was closing time and a man walks into the little ice cream restaurant and he says to her “Are you here by yourself?” And she very shyly says “Well, no” sensing something is up she says “No someone’s in the back.” And he said “No, there’s not I’ve been watching this store for the last two hours nobody has come in and nobody has gone out. I know that you’re here by yourself.” And he says to her Sid “I’m going to do to you what I want to do to you.” He takes her by the arm and he drags her to the back; now you got to know that that you’re not alone, you got to know that God is going to do something, send something; something’s going to happen in the spirit realm. So this is a Holy Spirit filled young lady so the guy throws her down on the floor and he’s about to do something to her all of a sudden she said it sounded like the music came up stronger and it was right at that very point where I say in the song “There’s no God like Jehovah; there’s no God like Jehovah.” And all of a sudden the man rises up and say “What is that I hear?” And she said “That is the Holy Spirit filled song because I am a Holy Ghost filled young woman.” He said “Oh, I’ve got to get out of here I don’t mess with Holy Ghost” he said I’ve got to get out of here” and so he gets up and runs out.” And you’ve got to know that the anointing of God came into that room; that music went up to another degree and something happened that was just not corresponding with him and his rage and the Holy Ghost got a hold of him and he had to get out. And I’m telling you you are never alone with the Holy Spirit beside you and the anointing of God in you he said “I will never leave you; I will never forsake you.” I love the Amplified “I will never, never, never, never will I leave you” He says. And we have to be assured that when the devil tells us that he is lying. We have to fill our house with music that’s going to…

Sid: Speaking of filling our house with music Judy, I have prophetic friends that say so many young people are getting into the type of music there getting into pornography, new age, witchcraft. I mean in droves and believers are going to have to pray for deliverance. And as a matter of fact I believe that there is such an anointing on your song “My Deliver” that some people listening right now will get free.

Judy: “My Deliver” excerpt.  

Sid: We are so close to the return of the Messiah. How do I know this? He told me in a dream. Three times He said “I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon, I’m coming back soon.”


Our Guest James Durham


SID: Now James, on one of your trips to Heaven, Jesus gave you a couple of stones. Tell me about that.

JAMES: Well Sid, he asked me if I wanted these stones. They came one at a time. The first one that came was about the size of an egg and it was a ruby, and it landed in my left hand, and I could feel it just as real I could feel anything I touched. I was excited. I thought that when I came back to Heaven I’d still have that in my hand.

SID: I understand.

JAMES: I thought I was going to be able to show this egg-sized ruby to everyone. But it started to melt in my hand, and when it started melting in my hand there was extreme fire that came into my hand. It was very painful. And then the stone that came into the other hand was also melted into my hand, and it was also on fire and very painful. It was a stone for releasing gifts of healing and ministering impartation to people. And my hands were on fire seven days a week, 24 hours a day for more than two years. And the only relief I could get was to go put my hands under cold water and get relief for a few moments. As soon as I took my hands out, they would be on fire again. And I immediately noticed that my wife started feeling the same thing. So I know that what God placed in my hands is transferable, and that it can be passed to other people. And I believe that some people here tonight are going to begin to feel the fire of God in their hands, going to begin to feel the power of God moving in them, and it’s going to bring a healing anointing, and an anointing to release the love of God to people.

SID: Tell me about two or three people that actually were healed as they heard you speak.

JAMES: One of the most dramatic was speaking in a church in Chicago and the, a woman who had had her neck broken in three places went into a trance. Her neck had been fused and she was in great pain, and couldn’t move her head. And in that trance the Glory came and God restored the vertebrae in her neck. And not too long after that, I was sharing that in another conference, and while I was speaking the Glory fell. The presence of God came and another woman, no one praying for her, no one else really knowing she had gone through almost the same thing. The doctors said, “The rest of your life will be controlling the pain.” Her neck was totally restored in the presence of God, the Glory of God. And I believe that Glory and that presence is here with us tonight and it’s going to be with everyone who is watching this program, God is going to release that anointing to them.

SID: James, I have to describe what I witnessed before the show started. I was talking to James and my eyes went down to his hands, and his hands, it looked like there were scars. It was so red and it look liked there were scars almost all over. Do you understand what I’m saying? It was so obvious that I said to him, “What’s going on?” And we all, it wasn’t just me. Several looked at your hand and before our eyes, the redness and what looked to be like burns almost, disappeared while we were watching that. I’d be remiss before God if I didn’t tell you, pray whatever God wants you to pray right now.

JAMES: Right now, I’d just like to say, Sid, that over and over I’ve experienced angels coming into our presence and they’re holding the angels that have come into the presence. They started coming in this afternoon. They’re still moving in. And those angels are touching people right there, right now, and I believe they’re also, they’re coming into the homes of all the listeners. And these angels are drawing people on to the Father, bringing them closer to the Father. I believe that tonight there’s a lifting up to the Father. And when those angels began to manifest, healing angels also came. And I believe that we have healing angels throughout the room tonight. And the Lord is saying right now, we just pray over you and we release to you right now, the love of the Father, we release that anointing to you that you would feel a supernatural flow of the Father’s love. And that when those angels of holiness come and touch you we release them right now to touch you and lift you up, and draw you to the Father in Heaven. And as those healing angels begin to manifest, we release those angels to minister healing. And I’m hearing that many people are being healed right of severe headaches, of chronic headaches. And right now, you’ve just been healed by the power of God being brought by these healing angels. The Lord said that upper respiratory infections are being healed right now. Right now if you have an upper respiratory infection, just let that healing angel touch you, release the power of God while the Glory is manifesting and powerfully present here and in your home as you watch this. There is a healing in the abdominal region, people receiving it right now for all kind of different issues in the bowels. Chronic problems are being healed right now by those healing angels. They’re coming to you. So right now in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach, we release that anointing for healing and for holiness, and we ask those angels, give to people what God sent you to give. We receive it and we believe it in the mighty name of Yeshua HaMashiach. Amen and Amen. Amen.

SID: You see, when James goes to Heaven, he’s instructed by God to teach certain things. One trip, he was taught about the Kabod, the Glory, the heaviness of God, the presence of God and how wonderful that is. And the Lord taught him there were seven levels, the Kabod of Glory. Tell me the top level that He explained to you.

JAMES: The top level, Sid, is the unity glory. And I believe we see that in that same chapter of Ephesians. Ephesians 2:6, that we’re seated with him in heavenly places. But you read on a little further and we’re told in verses 13 through 18 that the dividing wall has been brought down, separating the Jewish believers from the Gentile believers, and one new preacher, one new man is coming forth, one new human being is emerging from that. And in verse 18 it says, that in this newness along with unity with Jesus, the Holy Spirit is giving us access to Heaven, and we literally are becoming members of the family of God. We’re part of the household. You have a chair in Heaven and it’s time to go sit in that chair and visit the Father, and visit Jesus in Heaven. Amen.

SID: Tell me as quickly as you can, what is going to happen in this unity of Jew and Gentile? When Jesus said, “You’ll do the same works that I have done and even greater,” is that what he’s talking about?

JAMES: Sid, I believe that’s exactly what he’s talking about. And what the Lord showed me is that as Jesus, when he ministered on Earth, was able to see what the Father was doing and hear what the Father was saying, literally Jesus was experiencing Heaven and Earth at the same time, and that you and I can have that same experience. You and I can experience Heaven and Earth simultaneously.

SID: But step one to experience Heaven and Earth is to make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. You don’t need my words. Get right with God now.

JAMES: Amen.

Our Guests Barry & Batya Segal

Barry & Batya Segal

Sid: Well my guest is red hot for the Messiah I’m speaking to Barry Segal and all this week we’ve been speaking to his wife Batya. The two of them are Recording Artists from Jerusalem. I’m actually speaking to them at his home in Jerusalem right now and his latest CD which he puts it has a Levitical anointing it’s called “God Through the Gates.” Now what I’d like to know Barry how you and Batya got together. I know that she had this long extended court case, a custody for her daughter because she became a believer in Messiah. And her former husband was using it against her and you were praying with her a lot. You had music in common but how did you eventually determine that the two of you were to get married?

Barry: Well it’s a real invitation of the Holy Spirit I think when two people are joined together in matrimony and covenant. And I think we were the classic picture of east meets west in the Middle East. And really when I came to Israel I came with an opportunity to live with very well-known Bible teacher who since went to go home with the Lord Dr. Derrick Prince and his wife Ruth. And as a single guy coming over from the US and they saw my love and passion for Israel; they asked me to come on over and to assist them the first year and finish out their home as they were settling in Jerusalem. And here it was Jew and Gentile kind of settling together in Jerusalem and in that first year in that incubation period as I had entered Jerusalem and Israel to make it my home; I used to actually go down to the bus stops along the center of the neighborhood called the German Colony of Jerusalem and at times I would run into Batya at the bus stop because she was born and grew up on the other side of that road by her parent’s house. And so just over the divide was where Batya and somehow we would run into each other. But the actual place that we first met I remember was at a Bible study in a home in Jerusalem for Messianic Jewish Song Writers and Singers and there were about a dozen people there. When I walked in that first night, which was somewhere around the winter of 1982, they were all praying in a circle I had come in a bit late and when she opened her eyes I was standing right in front of her. That was actually the first time she saw me; I was the second angel she would say.

Sid: (Laughing) Tell me about that what happens when an American Jew immigrants to Israel and falls in love and marries a Yemenite Jew and they have a Yemenite wedding, what is that like?

Barry: Well it was really unusual it was like a movie being filmed because after Batya’s court trial was finished in the Supreme Court for custody of her daughter Meital. And after several years of having prayed together to get with Derrick and Ruth Prince in their home on behalf of Batya’s court trial and for her daughter and other things going on in our lives. It was almost as if the Lord had yoked us together. He was calling us to be yoked together to carry on a great burden and work which would start in Jerusalem and do to Judea, Sumeria and the ends of the earth. So several years later of course we would be engaged right after the court trial was finished and then married in 1987. I’ll never forget the time that my parents from America came over to meet Batya’s parents it was so funny because we were the only 2 in the middle that could translate between the Hebrew and the English between my parents and her parents. Of course that was kind of classic it was like the ancient meeting the modern.

Sid: Hm.

Barry: And finally we both being Levites by birth both Batya and I. Batya from a Yemenite Jewish Levites and myself from an Ashkenazi European Levitical background the rabbi’s wanted to be sure that we were Levites so our parents had to prove this in some rabbinical court. And upon that we were approved to be married and we had an Orthodox Jewish ceremony in Jerusalem with a few hundred guests. And it was quite exciting actually at the time because when we came we did not know that Batya’s older brother had arranged for a Yemenite dance troupe to come in dressed like probably they were dressed 100’s of years ago with flower baskets on their heads and all sorts of ornaments. They came and they put us in chairs and they picked us up in the chairs and they danced us all the way to the chupa. I just kind of waved goodbye to my parents and they just had tears in their eyes; it was just so classical it was so joyous. In its own way it had a Levitical anointing that feel into that place and people just don’t forget the wedding that came to it even to this day, it was spectacular event.

Sid: Barry you mentioned that you were really discipled by a great great Bible teacher Dr. Derrick Prince. He went on recently to be promoted to heaven. If he was around today and he was giving advice to our listeners about what’s going on prophetically in the world what do you think he would be telling them?

Barry: Well there’s no doubt even to the very end of Derrick’s life he believed that the Lord’s return is much more imminent than we all can fathom or understand in the natural mind. That in fact the prophetic word of God; what was spoken in centuries of old by the prophets of old is so real; so in affect today and so centers around the re-gathering of Israel physically and as well as re-gathering of Israel spiritually. And that we see also a parallel restoration within the Jewish people and nation and also the church. So that what we are experiencing and the tremendous upheaval which includes the words that Jesus spoke about towards the end time. That there would be violence in the days we live in is so picturesque of the time that we really should have a heart for the lost and we really should be earnestly looking to His coming. And working for the night is coming when no man can work. I think these would be some areas that Derrick would have reflected on and summed up; I think he saw the evil of the world and the curtains being pulled in this age coming to a close. And I think he saw his own passing on just a thin veil away from all eternity.

Sid: I’m speaking to Barry and his wife Batya Segal and we’re featuring this week his latest CD called “Go Through the Gates.” And as Batya explains the gates are Yeshua and it’s a call for Jewish people to find the true peace. “Go Through the Gates” it’s got a Levitical, I mean it’s Levitical as you can get, they both have a Levitical heritage. And what do you want to accomplish with this CD Barry?

Barry: Well I think that that’s a very very good question. I think you know my heart always in worship and in music is that there will be a restoration of fellowship with God through what we do. I think scripture that sums up so much to me about music and worship is in 2nd Chronicles 5 where it says in verse 11 “And it came to pass that when the priests came out of the most holy place having had sanctified themselves without keeping to their divisions. And the Levites were the singers” and on and on it goes about those with cymbals and stringed instruments. But summing it up it says “In deed it came to pass when the trumpeters and singers were as one to make one sound to be heard in thanking and praising the Lord and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of music and praise the Lord in saying ‘For He is good for His mercy endures forever’ that the house of the Lord was filled with the cloud so that the priests could not continue ministering because of the cloud for the glory of the Lord filled the house of God.” It’s for His glory.


Our Guest LaDonna Taylor


SID: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest as a young person started playing the violin and what she found out is people started getting healed. I mean, people would feel the pain just coming out of their body as she plays the violin. Others, I know this is going to stretch you some, but then you deserve to be stretched. If the Bible is normal, you deserve to be stretched. Metal started turning to bone when she played her violin. Now LaDonna, when you did, in 2012, you did a show and I knew you were sick. But I didn’t know how sick you were. I didn’t realize that you went in for simple surgery and it was a physician’s error, and she was in a life-threatening position. When you, why did you even come to do the show?

LADONNA: I didn’t realize I was as sick as I was either. Everything was going wrong, but I thought I needed one more surgery, and I was going to fight my way through because I knew the Lord was leading me to come and do this show.

SID: Okay. She does the show. Even in the airport, how sick were you?

LADONNA: Even coming over, I was changing planes from wheelchair to airplane, to airplane in my wheelchair. I didn’t even have the strength to go to the restroom myself and no one would help me.

SID: Okay. She had nine surgeries because of this physician’s error in 90 days. She literally, literally was dying. Her colon was dying. What did the doctor say? What was your future like?

LADONNA: I would, if I recovered, and they couldn’t tell me that, if I recovered I would have blood clots, swollen kidneys, bladder infections, arthritis, full blown diabetes the rest of my life.

SID: Just from an error. Okay. You’re down to 89 pounds. The next surgery will be to remove your dead colon. Spirit of Death came on you. What was that like?

LADONNA: It was dark. It drew the strength out of my body. I literally felt myself starving to death. Eight-nine pounds and my stomach was very protruded.

SID: But you know what? There, as a young child, you knew God. Tell me the first time God called your name.

LADONNA: I was 12 years old walking through an empty church. My dad was outside the church and when I heard a deep male voice call my name, “LaDonna”, I turned and said, “Yes Dad,” but he wasn’t in the church, and I knew immediately it was Father God calling my name.

SID: And shortly thereafter she started learning the violin. She fell in love with the violin. But did you see things they used to do in churches, like pleading the blood of Jesus


SID: What did you see happen when people pleaded the blood of Jesus as a young child

LADONNA: I saw amazing miracles happen. I would love, I’ve always been very curious about miracles, having no idea that that would be a main part of my life, later in life. I saw crippled people throw crutches down, people get out of wheelchairs. I saw big tumors disappear off of people, blind eyes see, deaf ears open, everything.

SID: I want LaDonna to play on the violin. And you get ready for an encounter with God. If you would go to the music set, “Nothing but the Blood of Jesus”. Do you understand the title? You don’t need anything but the blood of Jesus, and I plea that blood of Jesus over you and everything where you are right now: the office, the home, the bar. Wherever you are, I plea the blood of Jesus.

Our Guest LaDonna Taylor

LaDonna Taylor

Sid: This is not supposed to be happening, LaDonna Taylor is a toddler going with her grandmother; would see her grandmother pray for the dead people, 3 dead people that came back to life. She understood healing in the atonement; she lived a life for God but there was a botched surgery; then they had to follow it with 9 surgeries to fix it; they weren’t able to fix it. She’s literally dying; she watches the television show she had previously done of It’s Supernatural while she’s in the hospital. The nurse whose convinced she’s going to die is crying while she’s watching knowing that LaDonna is going to die. LaDonna is down to 89 pounds; she’s 65 years of age and even though that was a tremendous encouragement you still have that spirit of death in the room and demons coming upon you and you were in for a battle. What did you do?

LaDonna: I was in for a battle but in the battle I found God’s plan and God’s plan was after I watched the show email started coming into my little smart phone laying by my bed. I began praying for others, I began answering emails with the little keyboard on that phone promising the people that I would pray for them; writing their names down and calling their names before God. And realizing that on the inside it was restoring hope. Now I still was very confused in my mind because I’m receiving high powered pain meds every 2 to 4 hours. It was everything I could do to function and pray for others and answer their emails. But I had picked up my destiny and I just knew that I would keep fighting and the truth was that “By His stripes I am healed.

Sid: Out of curiosity did you feel a degree of His presence even in those horrible situations in the hospital where you’re dying; slipping away?

LaDonna: Absolutely, His presence was my focus. I have a dear, dear friend I call her my spiritual mother Billye Brim. She would called me often and she would say “Practice the presence of God. To me those words mean shut everything else out and put your mind on Him, your thoughts and your faith on Him, He is your only help and your only hope.

Sid: Now during that time you had a visit from your pastor who happens to be a friend of mine Pastor John Kilpatrick, he was the Pastor of the great Brownsville Revival and now he has another church which you’re a member of. When he came in what did he say “He say?”

LaDonna: He actually called me.  

Sid: Okay.

LaDonna: On an evening after I had cried myself to sleep. That very same day Billy Brimm my spiritual mother had called me that morning and read a John G. Lake sermon to me. And it encouraged me in a principal of healing.

Sid: Do you remember the principal that it encouraged you in?

LaDonna: The principal of healing she encouraged me in she read a John G. Lake sermon and in the sermon it said “We must realize that just as Jesus dwells in your spirit and also possesses your soul in actually the same way He is possessing every cell in your body. The same Christ that dwells in your spirit is just as real in your body with His healing power as He is with your spirit. Many of us have Jesus in imprisoned in our soul and spirit as Savior; and must open prison doors and permit Him to be our healer.

Sid: I’m reminded that Jesus said “Out of your innermost belly will flow rivers of living water.” So you’re releasing those rivers if I’m understanding you right into every cell of your body.

LaDonna: That day as soon as I hung the phone up all day long Billye called me at 10:30 in the morning and all day long until I cried myself to sleep that night hoarse. I said “Lord God I open prison doors, I proclaim that You are the healer of every cell of my body. Then after I cried myself to sleep Pastor John Kilpatrick called and this is what I heard on the phone. “LaDonna is that you?” And then he said “This is John Kilpatrick your pastor, God told me to call you and tell you that today you hit breakthrough.” He said “Your coming out of that bed and out of the hospital. Then He said “You’re going to fully recover; today you hit breakthrough; you may not know it and you may not feel it but you hit it.” And then he said “It’s your time, close your eyes now and go to sleep and when you open your eyes tomorrow will be a new day.”

Sid: I have to tell you LaDonna if John Kilpatrick were to call me and give me a prophetic word I would believe it was from God; how about you?

LaDonna: I started crying, that pain medicine did not affect my mind any more; I became totally sober. To this day I remember I could recite those words he said to me every single word in order. And in 5 hours my body heard those word and in 5 hours my colon started functioning and in 4 days the doctor said “God home” and the 5th day I was in church.

Sid: And did the doctors have any comment, I mean what you told me I don’t think they expected you to do anything but die.

LaDonna: That’s exactly right, I remember that the doctors were so happy, they were so happy. I had been playing my music in the room they saw how I was doing every thing I could to hold on and they were just very very pleased but very surprised that all of those things about God that I had been telling everybody were coming true in that hospital room.

Sid: I want you to tell me about the worst moment before you were healed, the worst moment. Was there a point where it was touch and go that you were going to give up, that you were going to just give up the ghost so to speak.

LaDonna: Yes, I remember that the surgeon that was watching over me just before my 9th surgery came into the room and when I saw him come into the room I felt alarm and I knew what he was going to tell me. This is what he said, he came to the bed, he smiled and looked down at my bed and he said “I’m so sorry to tell you this but your going to meet me in the operating room again in 5 minutes; we’ve pushed medical science this is as far as it can go you’re going to die if I don’t operate another time.” That was surgery number 9; as my hospital bed was being rolled down the hall to surgery that was probably my most difficult moment not understanding why one more time I would have to have surgery when I was so weak all ready.

Sid: Well, after that 9th surgery was there anything really, you know you went home and then you went down hill again. Was there anything encouraging the doctors said from the natural viewpoint about recovery?

LaDonna: No, no encouragement from the doctor; the first encouraging thing that I heard from somebody else was that prophetic word from my pastor and my body heard it and responded to it.

Sid: What would you say to someone that’s probably listening to us by way of CD or radio and they are in a critical situation; what advice would you give them?

LaDonna: I would say that it’s God ordained that they’re listening right now. And I would say this that this is their moment for breakthrough. This is their moment to touch God. And they maybe just like me; they may not know it and they may not feel it but this is it. Just touch God because He’s available to you; He’s done all of the work on the cross and by His stripes you are healed!”

Sid: Now when people listen to your music it’s the same as you being in a concert the anointing is on your music. Tell me one brief testimony that comes to mine. Oh, tell me about the person that got a new heart.

LaDonna: Oh, there was an elderly man in Branson, Missouri; he came to the altar very very slow after I had played some music. And actually I was still playing when he worked his way to the altar; he walked so slowly. When he go to the altar we prayed for him; Billye Brim was ministering with me at the altar that day and we prayed for him. After we prayed for him he started walking; I was still playing and he started walking and as he walked he walked faster and faster almost ran around the room at least 80 years old, at least 80; ran almost around the room. And when he got back he had opened his arms and took me in his arms and he said “Oh, my goodness I couldn’t have walked 5 steps without being winded and look what I just did.”

Sid: But this isn’t usual; you prayed for people with fibromyalgia, you prayed for people that are deaf. You even told me people are getting metal is turning to bones.

LaDonna: Absolutely.  

Sid: I mean the way you say absolutely I mean this is a miracle.