12 Mar 10 Sid Roth welcomes Rick Joyner

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Rick Joyner. Did you know that God has every hair on your head numbered? That not two sparrows fall to the ground without Him being aware of it? And of how much more value are you? You have value, and you have worth. Of how much more value are you than the sparrow? My guest, Rick Joyner, is just a man. I’m just a man. But we know God. We have intimacy with God. And there’s a prophet by the name of Bob Jones that wandered into your life, and he described property that you were going to own. Explain that.

RICK: Well, he had a dream. And when I moved to North Carolina, I came with the word I was to go to the mountains of North Carolina. And I met Bob Jones through a friend of ours, Mike Bickle, and he immediately started telling me details about my life and things that had happened in my history that I didn’t even know. I had to check them out later, but they found out to be true.

SID: That’s amazing.

RICK: Things about my ancestors and stuff. But anyway, later he called me back and said he’d had a dream about me moving to the mountains of North Carolina, and he described the place in detail; exactly how far it was from where I was living at the time,
which he got within 2/10 of a mile. We told him he’s got to do better than that.

SID: Well, hey, according to the Bible you have to be 100%, but I’ll take within 2/10 of a mile, out of the whole world.

RICK: Yeah, that’s right. But he described it in detail. Tom Hess, who is a friend of yours, was involved in this, and was given some land nearby and he called and told me he was supposed to give it to us.

SID: And it’s a small world. I was on his board and I was involved in that decision. But go ahead.

RICK: So Tom calls me from Jerusalem and tells me about this land, and he described it,
and the deed had some of the details that Bob had told me in his dream. It was measured like they do in the mountains sometimes, “from white rocks to an old oak tree”, and Bob, in his dream, had seen the land was measured from white rocks to an oak tree, and details like that. He said there were buildings in the middle with red roofs and a mountain with a rock face on it and antennas on it, and all this. Of course that could’ve been a lot of places in North Carolina, but when we found it had every detail that Bob told us about in his dream, including where the streams were on the land, and things like that…

SID: But Rick, that is natural. I mean there was a king of Syria that was upset with Israel because as this king said “They know what I’m discussing in my bedroom.” It was a prophet, and today, according to the New Covenant, we’re all supposed to be able to prophecy. Now I am so excited about this new property that you have. Was that prophesied also?

RICK: It was. And you know, we prophesy in part, and we know in part. And Bob had all these details about he property we were going to, the rectangular building. He saw a lot of other little details that worked out later. But he saw some damage to it, water leaks and damage. We went looking all over Charlotte for old buildings, and almost bought some that we thought fit the description.

SID: Been there, done that. I understand.

RICK: And then we finally happen upon the property that was exactly as Bob had described, and now we’re in it.

SID: And this is the old PTL Headquarters that Jim Bakker had a vision to develop. And Rick, I don’t have to be a prophet to know that that mantle has fallen upon you, and that’s going to be even greater than Jim thought it was going to be. You’ve got that beautiful Grand Hotel, and it is now grand. I mean how did you end up getting that property, which Bob Jones saw in a vision, which you couldn’t even find when you went in your peanut brain trying to find it?

RICK: Well it’s interesting. Jim Bakker, when he got out of prison, he kind of spiritually bequeathed that property to us in a conference, publicly. And we were saying “We don’t want it. We don’t want to run a hotel. We’re in missions.”

SID: Besides that, he didn’t own it. He couldn’t give it to you.

RICK: Yeah, but he spiritually said “We think you’re supposed to have it.” So anyway, there were some reasons, some things I had to be a part of, some business things and all, where if I’d known that property was coming to me I could not have been a part of those. It would’ve been a conflict. We had no idea. So I think, in a way, the Lord hid it from us, where it was, and then at the right time, it came into our hands for, well, we bought $60 million, well Jim paid $60 million to build it in the 1980’s.

SID: Right, so that would be worth even more now with the value of real estate.

RICK: I’d think so. We bought it for $1.6 million.

SID: How come so cheap?

RICK: Well, they didn’t think the buildings could be restored.

SID: Did you have a good Jewish attorney by the name of Ruach Ha Kodesh, the Holy Spirit?

RICK: I’ve had Jews tell me I’ve made the Jew jealous.

SID: Well that’s what you’re supposed to do. You’re just being normal. Speaking of normal, very quickly, tell me about the glory cloud that came in at a meeting you were at where you were speaking, and everyone saw it.

RICK: Well this was back when we were first starting, had our first Worship and Warfare Conference, called The Heart Of David. And we had spent about eight hours worshipping the Lord that day. You know, taking some breaks in between. It was at an intensity that we used to hope we could get to and maintain for 15 minutes. It was the most intense worship we’d ever experienced, and it had gone on and on. The last session had gone into hours, and it kept building. It was the greatest worship I’ve still ever been a part of. And at the end, Leonard Jones was playing the last song, and all of a sudden, it felt like a nuclear fire in the building. I felt burning inside. You know how nuclear’s supposed to burn from the inside? I felt like my insides were on fire, and I watched two girls who were on the stage start grabbing like they were on fire. And then… Now I’m feeling heat, fire, and I watched one of these girls run and dive through the drum set,
scared, terrified. And I turn around and looked and there’s this cloud, pillar of cloud right in the middle of the stage. And my first thought is “We’ve got a fire.” Because heat, fire, all this, you know. And the whole audience that had been worshipping at the top of their voice went instantly silent, started wailing, crying. I’m looking at everything going on and I think we’ve got a fire, and then I just said “The presence of the Lord is so intense, let the place burn.” That was my thinking.

SID: Did everyone see that cloud?

RICK: Yeah, everyone that was in there saw it, except for a few.

SID: Did you hear that? Everyone outside of a few saw this glory cloud. We’re coming into the days like you read about in the scriptures, where the glory is going to show up and everyone’s going to be healed. I feel such a presence of God in my face right here that I happen to believe that God’s presence is invading wherever you are right now. And in His presence, all things are possible. What do you need right now? The first thing you need is to get right with God, repent of your sins, and believe Jesus is your Messiah and Lord. Get ready. Get ready!

05 Mar 10 Sid Roth welcomes John McTernan

SID: Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, John McTernan, has found the most amazing statistics. Since 1991, how many times have you seen that, when the United States goes against Israel, there have been, what the world calls, natural catastrophes?

JOHN: Sid, at a minimum, 50, but probably closer to 70.

SID: Now, many people feel that when there are things like earthquakes and hurricanes and the stock market goes down, and that’s the type of things we’re talking about, many people think that that’s the natural decay of planet Earth in every arena. How would you respond to that?

JOHN: Well Sid, obviously there is truth to that, the natural decay. But it’s the timing of it, Sid, and the magnitude of the hurricanes, for example. Like hurricane Andrew, hurricane Katrina, and other hurricanes, falling precisely on these events. Precisely, Sid.

SID: Why is it though? What I’m pondering, and what I’d like John to explain is, why are there these warning judgments from God within 24 hours of the event, when the United States tries to divide up the land of Israel. Why is that, John?

JOHN: Well Sid, in the Bible, God has made promises. Starting with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendents, which would be the Jewish people today, about the land. And there are blessings and curses about how people react to Jewish people on the land. So, part of the cursing is, if you try and divide the land, which unfortunately the United States is really the leading nation in the world pressuring Israel to do this, since 1991.

SID: Give me some examples of what the United States did, and what happened. Just a couple.

JOHN: Well Sid, we’ll start at the very beginning, the Madrid Peace process, which is really a codeword for the dividing of Israel. The date was October 30, 1991. We’ll say President Bush Sr., and not the current President, but his father, President Bush Sr. He initiated this after the Gulf War, thinking that, with the power of the United States, you could have this comprehensive peace in the Middle East, and part of it would be dividing the land, including Jerusalem. And when the President was delivering this speech in Madrid, Spain, initiating the Madrid Peace process, on that very day, Sid – in fact, I’d almost go so far as to say the very hour – the perfect storm hit. And if you can think back to 1991, the perfect storm…

SID: There was a movie.

JOHN: A movie, a best-selling book. The perfect storm had generated… it was the most powerful storm ever recorded in history, in the north Atlantic. It generated 30 foot waves that came against the President’s home in Kennebunkport, Maine. He has a home on the coast.

SID: It really caused destruction?

JOHN: Yeah, 30 foot waves. Eyewitnesses said, Sid, that the waves just engulfed the home; they came over it. So as the President of the United States was in this process of touching the land of Israel, his own home was being devastated.

SID: Give me another example.

JOHN: Well, the next year the Madrid Peace process was transferred from Madrid, Spain, to Washington D.C. The very first day that they met was August 23, 1992, on American soil. They previously had been in Madrid. And you can see the headlines in the newspapers, I have all the headlines, where hurricane Andrew… At that time, it was the greatest natural disaster ever to hit the United States. Since then, hurricane Katrina has surpassed it. But hurricane Andrew hit 4 hours before they met on American soil. So you’ll see the newspapers with the headline “Hurricane Andrew”, and all the damage,
and right there with it is the Madrid Peace Process. So you can’t miss it, Sid.

SID: Which is, again, the Madrid Peace Process is “land for peace.” But you mentioned hurricane Katrina. Is there any correlation with that?

JOHN: I’m going to stretch your mind a little, but to go back to hurricane Katrina and the Jewish people being evacuated from Gaza.

SID: The settlements?

JOHN: The settlements. And of course Gaza is part of the Covenant land. It’s that land that was given to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their descendents. In fact, Sid, the prophet Obadiah, which your viewers may have a hard time finding, because it’s the smallest book in the Bible… When I preach on Obadiah, I give people extra time to find it. But right there in Obadiah, it talks about “the Day of the Lord”, which of course is the second coming of the Lord Jesus…

SID: Which we’re obviously approaching.

JOHN: Without a doubt. And it says specifically that the plain of the Philistines are going to belong to… the Jewish people are going to be in control of the plain of the Philistines, which in modern terminology is Gaza. So the prophetic word says that this land is going to be inhabited, controlled, by the Jewish people. Yet, through pressure of the United States, with George Bush Jr., and with Condoleezza Rice, the Secretary of State, we’ve pressured the Jewish government, the Israeli government, to unilaterally abandon the land. And plus, the President also promised American money to help with the resettlement of the Jewish people that are being taken off the land. So that was taking place exactly at the time that hurricane Katrina hits the United States. So we’re forcing Jewish people off the land in Israel, and Americans are being forced off the land in the United States.

SID: Now listen, I would not call this a warning judgment, I would call this a judgment.

JOHN: Yes Sid, yes. In my book, when I first started, in the mid-1990’s, I called it warning judgments, or judgments unto repentance.

SID: But we’ve passed that line right now.

JOHN: Yes we have, Sid.

SID: This is what John has uncovered now. It’s the best-kept secret in American history. There is a key to American prosperity that is not mentioned in any of the history books. We’ll reveal that, and you are going to be absolutely amazed when you hear the best kept secret. It won’t be secret anymore. Be right back after this word.

We’ll be right back to It’s Supernatural.

26 Feb 10 Sid Roth welcomes Joel Richardson

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Joel Richardson and the wealth of information. I see why God has hand-picked this man to give us a revelation of End Times. But there’s going to be a false unity that will occur in the last days we read about. And you told me the most amazing statement about a Hasidic rabbi in Israel. Tell me about that.

JOEL: Well I recently have been in dialogue, not only with some of the representative rabbis from the Sanhedrin, which is a body of 70 Hasidic rabbis in Israel, but also a very influential Turkish Islamic Muslim leader, named Adnan Oktar. I recently had the chance to visit with him in Istanbul, and amazingly, you have this Muslim that is actually calling for the Jewish temple to be rebuilt. He calls it “Solomon’s Mosque” or “Solomon’s Palace.” Shortly after I visited with Adnan in Istanbul, some of the representatives from the Sanhedrin met with him, and after meeting with him one of the things that they came out in a joint statement was a call for the Temple Mount to become a house of prayer for all nations. And, you know, when you listen to their dialogue, the rabbis regularly refer to God as Allah, and they speak about worshiping the same God all under one Abrahamic umbrella. So there’s an emerging unity. You know, they have their clearly defined parameters, but they see each other as brothers who all worship the same God.

SID: And obviously, by the description of Allah, that is not the description of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But I’m talking about that Hasidic rabbi. What did he say to you?

JOEL: Well not to me specifically, but Menachem Froman, very influential rabbi in Israel, the founder of the Tekoa settlement, he’s written a letter to the government of Turkey, and he’s asked for a meeting between the religious leaders of Israel and the government leaders, political leaders of Turkey to come together to form and forge a Middle Eastern peace treaty that they could then submit to the surrounding nations. And what he has said is that Turkey is the only hope for Middle Eastern peace, that Turkey is the premier bridge nation, the only nation that can mediate between the Islamic world and the State of Israel.

SID: And that’s probably why you talk about keep your eyes on Turkey.

JOEL: For over 500 years it ruled the Middle East, right up until 1924. Now in 1924, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the secular reformer of Turkey, abolished the Office of Khalif, which is essentially the pope of the Islamic world. But he’s actually more than that. And so the Khilafat, the government of the Khalif was abolished, and since that time, the Islamic empire has essentially been dormant. The Bible predicts this. It calls this “the fatal head wound that the beast would suffer”, the beast being the empire. And now that empire is reviving, and everything looks like Turkey will emerge once again as the leader of the Middle East.

SID: You know, when you put End Time prophecy together with the Islamic world, as opposed to the European world. It just makes so much more sense.
JOEL: Absolutely. And you know, sometimes it’s as if they’re reading right from the script of the Bible. And Adnan Oktar, this Muslim leader that I met with, after I had been teaching for some time that the Bible predicted that Turkey would emerge as a regional leader, suddenly he comes out and he’s calling for what he calls a Turkish-lead Islamic union. And there is these massive movements throughout the Middle East calling for a neo-ottoman empire in the Middle East. We’ve been concerned that Al Qaeda would revive a Khilafat, but Turkey may very accomplish what Al Qaeda could not do.

SID: And you have another interesting revelation from the prophet Micah about the Assyrian.

JOEL: This is one of the most basic prophecies about the Messiah. In the Bible, in Micah 5, you have the prophecy of the Bethlehem-born Messiah. We all know this one. But if you read a little further it says that one of the primary things that this messiah does, it says, “When the Assyrian,” that’s the Antichrist, “When the Assyrian invades our land and tramples into our borders that the Bethlehem-born Messiah would deliver us from the Assyrian.” Now you have to ask yourself, if you’re a believer who takes the Bible at a face value approach, you take it for what it says, if the Antichrist is called “the Assyrian” then is it more reasonable to conclude that the Antichrist will come from the former region of the Assyrian empire, or is it more reasonable to conclude that the Antichrist will be Nicolae Carpathia from Romania, or that he’ll be from Germany, or London?

SID: Now of course, we’re hearing all of this stuff, which is kind of heavy. But there is so much exciting things going on by the supernatural power of the living God. Jewish people and Muslims are having supernatural experiences with the Messiah of Israel. Tell me about some Muslims.

JOEL: Amen. First let me say this. Yeshua, a Jewish man, will soon come back and he will take over the earth. This is the yearning of mankind. Righteousness will cover the earth. Before he does this, this is all we’re talking about. We’re talking about the End Times, we’re not talking about the end of the world. We’re talking about the beginning of the good stuff. We’re talking about the day when all the things that we groan about, the child slavery, the sex slave trade, the unrighteousness of the earth, the unrighteous leadership will be eliminated. Before he does that, the Lord right now is reaching out and He’s drawing Muslims to Himself all over the Islamic world. Reports are coming in from missionaries, and one of the primary ways that Muslims are coming to become followers of Yeshua is through supernatural dreams and revelations. Yeshua himself is personally evangelizing Muslims. He hears their cry and he’s calling them to himself.

SID: Briefly tell me one Muslim story.

JOEL: You know, I just heard one recently. I believe it was Joel Rosenberg, not to be confused with Joel Richardson, was telling a story of a woman who was praying. She read the scripture that says, “Behold, I stand on the door and knock. If you open the door I will come in a sup.” She was praying about that scripture. She heard a knock on the door. She opened the door and there was a man in a white robe with holes in his hands, and she said, “Come on in.” And Jesus himself came in, sat down, ate with her and taught her the truth about himself and the scriptures, and she became a follower of Jesus.
SID: But based on your research, this is not just an exception. This is happening to many Muslims.

JOEL: Reports are coming in, again, from across the Islamic world. Missionaries are reporting this. I have a friend in Berlin right now who just, about two weeks ago, he was able to lead nine Turkish Muslims to the Lord in one meeting. He prayed for them. They had various sicknesses. They were healed. Jesus healed them. They could not deny the power that he had in Yeshua, for Yeshua. They came to faith. He preached the crucified Christ of the Bible, not the false Jesus of the Koran.

SID: And the amazing thing is when these Muslims come to know God they have such a love for the Jew and Israel. This is where Romans 11:11 says that, “The gentile will provoke the Jew to jealousy.” What greater gentile than an Arab coming to faith.

JOEL: Exactly. What a testimony when these Muslims who were raised on anti-Semitism, the anti-Semitism that is in their holy book, the Koran, and they have this hatred for the Jews. Suddenly, they fall in love with Yeshua. They read the scriptures and they realize the Jews are God’s people, that Isaac is my brother, and they come to love Israel. They come to love Jews. This I believe is one of the primary ways that the Lord is going to use the gentile world to provoke His people, the Jewish people, to jealousy, that they will turn to Him.

SID: That kind of a transformation could only come through knowing the Messiah of Israel.
Do you need that kind of transformation? I believe you do. It’s time to tell God you’re sorry for mistakes you’ve made in your life and you believe the King of the Jews, Jesus the Messiah, washes away your sins. Ask him to be your Lord and ask him to live inside of you right now.

19 Feb 10 Sid Roth welcomes Joel Richardson

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Joel Richardson. We just found out in the last segment that the one that the Muslims refer to as their messiah has a perfect description of what Christians refer to as the Antichrist. It’s amazing how similar it is. Joel, in Matthew 24, it says, the Messiah says, “The love of,” and in the Greek it says, “The love of most will grow cold in the last days.” That’s a pretty somber statement. “The love of most will grow cold in the last days.” Why do you believe that will happen?

JOEL: This is one of the most, in my opinion, one of the most terrifying warnings in all of scripture, because not only does it say that “the love of most will grow cold,” it also says that many will betray the faith and betray each other. And of course, the End Times will be a catastrophic, cataclysmic time. But to put this in context, in the 1970s, there was a movement that swept through the United States called the Jesus Movement, and that’s affected this country. Few people realize how much that affected. All these hippies were coming to following Yeshua and throughout the country. This was a revival, a biblical revival. One of the primary underlying factors of this religious revival was the fact that Israel had become a nation and fulfilled the prophecies of the Bible. People, when they look and they see that the prophecies of this book, unlike, you know, Nostradamus or some other vague prophecy, when they see that this book can predict things with accuracy precision thousands of years in advance, they come to recognize this book is true. Well likewise, if the majority today of the Church is believing that the Antichrist is going to come out of Europe and if they have all of these ideas about the End Times that are perhaps flawed, then likewise, even as the fulfillment of biblical prophecies affected people in a positive way during the ‘70s, I believe that if the opposite takes place, the potential that this has to shipwreck people’s faith, to lead them into deep levels of disillusionment and confusion, and lose faith in this book, is tremendous. And so we need to, when we look at this warning in Matthew 24, we need to take an incredibly humble approach to the prophetic scriptures and keep our eyes open.

SID: Okay. Islam talks about their messiah is the perfect description of the Christian Antichrist. What is Islam’s description of Jesus?

JOEL: This is essential. This is an essential point. A lot of Christians when they find out that Muslims also believe that Jesus will return at the end of the Age, they get all excited and say, well we have so much in common. What Christians don’t realize is that what Islam teaches is that when Jesus returns he will essentially come back, not as the Jesus of the Bible, but as an Islamic prophet, and he will come back to tell the Christians of the world and those that follow him that you’ve had it wrong all along, that your Bible is corrupted, that he never claimed to be the Son of God, that he never died on the cross, the whole Christian religion is false, that Islam is the true religion. He will command Christians to become Muslims otherwise they will have no other choice but to suffer the death penalty. Beyond that, Muslims teach that Jesus will come back as a Muslim prophet to kill the false Jewish Antichrist and to slaughter Jews in the Land of Israel. So in a nutshell, Muslims believe Jesus returns to abolish Christianity and to kill Jews.
SID: How about Daniel 2:43? How does that fit in?

JOEL: Daniel 2, this is the prophecy about this metallic statue, one of the most essential, prophetic passages in all of the scriptures. A lot of people believe that this is the foundation for this whole idea that the Antichrist will come out of the Roman Empire.

SID: Right.

JOEL: It’s speaking of these legs of iron. It’s all very complicated. But when we look at the biblical description, the criteria that the Bible lays out for us to identify this fourth empire, it says that it will crush Babylon, think Iraq, Persia, think Iran, and Greece, think Turkey and Greece. The problem is the Roman Empire did not crush those empires. It conquered a little bit of some of them. But in terms of Persia and Iraq, largely most of these regions were left untouched. The Roman Empire does not meet the biblical criteria. The Islamic empire does. And then when we look at Daniel 2:43, specifically of this fourth empire, it says, “The kingdom will be mixed.” And in the Aramaic, that word is “Arab”. “The kingdom will be “Arav, Meh’arav.” The same word for “Arab” is the word that we translate as “mixed”. In ancient times, the Arabs were known as the “mixed peoples”.

SID: So why does everyone think the Antichrist is going to come out of Europe?

JOEL: Well again, it’s because of a misplaced interpretation of two key passages. And there’s a huge wealth of passages throughout the Bible, consistently that speak of the surrounding nations. In the Hebrew it’s the “goy sabhib”, the “goyim sabhib”, the nations that surround Israel that come against her in the last days. And you have dozens of passages that say this. But then based on two passages, Daniel 2 as well as Daniel 9, some point to Revelation 17, they form the foundation for their eschatology and believe the Antichrist will come from the Roman Empire, and they ignore all of these other passages which are clear, which are consistent and easy to understand.

SID: Very briefly, what is the Islamic view of the one they call the Antichrist?

JOEL: Muslims also believe that an Antichrist will come at the end of the Age. They call him “adagela al massae”, the “imposter Messiah”. He comes back as the Jewish Messiah who claims to be Jesus Christ, who claims to be God, the Son of God, who does miracles, and he’s followed by Jews. So when you look at the Book of Revelation when it says that, “The rider on the horse Jesus has come back, and the kings of the earth gathered together to make war against him,” you think, what has gotten into them? The Muslims have been set up by their own religion to believe that when Jesus returns that he will be the Antichrist.

SID: Well, you know, I can see why 99 percent of the people that hear Joel teach on this area say for the first time, I understand the End Times. Don’t go away. You’re going to find out some amazing statements of Orthodox rabbis about the End Times. Be right back after this.

12 Feb 10 Sid Roth welcomes Joel Richardson

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, Joel Richardson, has such amazing insight into the End Times. The prophet Daniel, in the 12th chapter, talks about the End Times. Explain what he says.

JOEL: In the conclusion of this incredibly prophetically book, the prophet Daniel made clear, in fact, it was revealed to him by an angel, that all of the things revealed to Daniel, the primary message of this entire book, would literally be sealed up until the End Times. And he makes this very clear that when he’s speaking about End Times, he’s saying the time when the dead, those that sleep in the dust of the earth, are resurrected. This is talking about the end of the Age, that at that time, the understanding of this book would be opened up to the Church.

SID: And I can see how you’ve been hand-picked, literally by God, to give revelation of the End Times. In fact, you were sitting among 7,000 people. Get this, he’s sitting around among 7,000 people and the man that is speaking has a word of knowledge, but he starts out by even saying Joel’s name. What did he say?

JOEL: Let me just back up a teeny bit and make mention of something else. Just before my wife and I met, there was a prophetess that prayed over my wife, and one of the things she said was she said, “Your husband, you’ll marry someone that will have significant insight into the End Times and he’ll release new prophetic understanding concerning the End Times into the Church, and to the world.” And so my wife and I are sitting in this meeting, 7,000 people, large civic center type of situation, in the very back. And before he spoke, he said, “I want to share prophetic word, in order to show that what I’m about to speak on is from the Lord.” He called us out by name and then he spoke things to us that no man could know, things that we had been praying about, things that only we knew that only the Lord, only God could reveal to a man, and that gets your attention. And then one of the things that he said was he said that the Lord was going to bring me into a season of Divine revelation, which I knew intuitively was tied into this word about understanding the End Times. And of course, I had no interest in the End Times. I’m an incredibly unlikely candidate. My heart has always been to I love sharing my Christian faith with Muslims and I love reaching out to the poor, and I thought if I ever had a ministry, that that’s what it would be geared toward. But somehow the Lord has managed to bring together this love for Muslims, as well as this call to speak about the End Times and He’s joined those two together.

SID: But what if everything we’ve been taught about in series like the “Left Beyond” or “Late Great Planet Earth”, the basic premises are wrong? What if? I believe God has raised up Joel. People that understand his teaching, say for the first time, the whole End Times scenario makes total sense to me. Joel, in preparation for this, you spent time in the Middle East. You have studied the scriptures from an eastern, a Middle Eastern mindset. What difference does this make when you study the scriptures from that mindset versus the West?

JOEL: One of the things that I try to emphasize, whenever I’m teaching on these issues, particularly when I’m addressing Americans, is I try to address this issue of American centricity, this idea that we have as Americans, whether we articulate or verbalize it or not, we believe the world revolves around us, and we even, again, we wouldn’t quite come out and say it, we believe that the Bible is written primarily for Americans. What I’m trying to do is bring people back to the context of this book so they can understand that this book is first and foremost, is and always has been Jerusalem, Israel and a Middle Eastern centric book, and that includes the subject of biblical prophecy, that the epicenter of all biblical prophecy is the Middle East. So when we try to, as westerns, try to read our world view into the prophetic scriptures, the prophecies of the Bible, we often make mistakes. We read things into this context that don’t belong. So if you’re sitting in Jerusalem today, the primary spirit that is coming against the Jewish people, coming against the people of God, is the spirit of Islam. Now here in the West we have other spirits that we’re contending with, but we need to be careful not to read our world into the pages of this book.

SID: Now the thing that’s so amazing to me is as you began studying and reading about what the Bible calls the Antichrist, and then in the Middle East and talking with Muslims, and beginning to understand the one they consider to be their messiah, they seem to be the same person.

JOEL: Exactly, exactly. What shocks a lot of people is that when we look at the basic template, the basic description of who the Antichrist is in the Bible, it is an exact description of the Islamic savior, the Islamic messiah figure. So in the Bible, the Antichrist is a charismatic leader, a military, political, religious leader that rises up at the end of the age. He initially comes with a spirit of peace, a spirit of tolerance and unity for all faiths, and he initiates a peace treaty with the Nation of Israel and the surrounding Islamic nations, and then three and half years into this peace treaty, he violates that. He invades the Land of Israel with the surrounding nations, the Islamic nations that are under his authority, and he literally comes against the Jewish people to kill them, to conquer them. He sets up his seat of authority in Jerusalem on the Temple Mount. And the Bible says that the time that he has to do this is seven years. In Islam, their messiah figure is said to come at the end of the Age. They call him the “Mehedi”. In English we can just say “the Madhi”. He comes at the end of the Age to revive the Islamic empire that’s been dormant for the past 80-plus years. He then invades the Land of Israel to retake Israel for the Islamic world, and then he establishes the seat of his authority of world Islamic authority from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. And according to sacred Islamic tradition, it says that the time period that he has to do this will be seven years.

SID: I mean, I think that is so phenomenal, because I’ve always been told it’s going to be someone that will emerge from Europe, from the European Union, the ten nations coming together. But this is going to get interesting. Don’t go away. It’s going to be supernatural. Be right back after this word.

05 Feb 10 Sid Roth welcomes Ben and Brenda Peters

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Ben and Brenda Peters. Ben and Brenda Peters are prophets. And Brenda, just to whet their appetite, tell me a few people that you’ve prophesied over.

BRENDA: God gave us the opportunity to minister to bikers in Las Vegas. And bikers can be very threatening. While we were standing in the front of the room, the presence of God directed me to a specific biker who looked very tough. And as I walked over to him, God gave me one word, and I released that word and began to speak into his life. Once the Lord will give me one word, God will give me one word, I’ll speak that, the rest will come. This man met God because of that word. He left that meeting and went out into the parking lot and got down on his knees. Found out later he was a hit man, and had an assignment on somebody’s life that night, and somebody’s life was spared. Also in a truck stop one time, we stopped in our diesel on our way to a meeting, and a biker began to talk to me while I was in a coffee line. And again, the presence of God moved on me and I knew God wanted to speak to him. And I just said to him “You know, God just gave me a prayer for you. May I share it?” And he said, “Yes.” And a powerful, encouraging word came through me as a prayer into this man’s life, and he could not even speak, it was so exciting to him. And I left knowing that that man’s life will always be changed.

SID: Brenda, what about people that are ready to commit suicide?

BRENDA: This also happened in the biker meeting, and it’s also happened in youth group meetings; where the presence of God will come on me and God will give me a revelation that they are preparing to take their life, or that they have suicidal thoughts. And I’ll just go over to them and ask if I can pray for them, and God will give me a word for them that will open them up to who they are in God’s eyes, what He created them for, and take off of them that need to end their lives.

SID: Now understand that, just like Ben, who spent so much time in God’s presence, in effect that’s what you were doing when you were in school, and that changed your whole destiny, literally. Prophecy changes people’s destiny, doesn’t it? Can you pray for people right now that there would be an impartation of the gift of prophecy? And then, I believe God’s going to zoom you into another area where you’re going to prophesy to specific people. Would you do that now?

BRENDA: And I would encourage you that prophecy should come out of having spent time in the presence of God. Find a place to get alone with God. Put worship on. Right now, in the name of Jesus, we speak prophetic into your lives. We release an ability to listen, spend time in God’s presence, position yourself, and listen for family members and others around you. Prophesy when you pray.

BEN: And I’d like to break off of people the lie that they can’t hear from God. And some have been told that by Christian leaders, and we break that off in Jesus’ name, because  Jesus said “My sheep know My voice.” We loose the voice of God into your spirit, that you would hear clearly and know there’s a God who loves you and has a destiny for your life. He wants to use you, He wants you to be His mouthpiece. Peter said “If any man speak, let him speak as the oracle of God.” And God has given us that privilege and that wonderful responsibility to be the one that carries a message from the throne room to the hearts of man; to the troubled, to the needy, to the desperate; that their lives might be changed forever and they might become members of the army of God instead of the wounded. Amen.

SID: You know, I found out something that is about ready to happen in the nation of Israel. There is an assistant to Heidi Baker in Mozambique, Africa, and his name is Supreza, who is a very humble man. And you told me he recently prophesied what would happen in Bethlehem.

BEN: Yes he did. He believes that a great revival will be birthed in Bethlehem, and some of us that are working with him, and different ministries coming together where nobody cares who gets the credit, we have a passion now for Israel that we’ve never had before. I really believe it’s important that we turn our eyes and turn our hearts toward natural Israel and the spiritual Israel, the Church. But God has a destiny and a plan for natural Israel that’s awesome. And He’s going to come bringing revival into Bethlehem that’s going to spill over and actually make the Jerusalem Jews jealous of the presence of God that’s come into Bethlehem. And revival will happen among the Jews, and Israel will be saved.

SID: You know, I talk a lot about the one new man that Paul talks about in Ephesians, where he says the reason the Messiah came was to break down the middle wall of separation between Jew and Gentile to form a brand new species of being that would have the same presence of God that Jewish people have under the Old Covenant, and the same presence of God that we read about that Christians are supposed to have under the New Covenant. But it’s exponential. It says in scriptures that one will cause a thousand to flee, but two will cause ten thousand to flee. It’s an exponential thing. So that’s what’s coming to me as you’re talking about what’s going to happen in Bethlehem. What I’m seeing is that when the Gentile – the Arab – provokes the Jew to jealousy in Israel, all of the things that the United States of America is trying to do to orchestrate peace, there will be no peace until the Czar Shalom, the Prince of Peace, reigns in the heart of the perfect one new man. The Jew and the Arab, middle wall of separation coming down, becoming one. Stretch your gift of prophecy. Prophesy right now.

BRENDA: Right now, there is a young man that has been contemplating suicide, and God is giving you a vision of what He created you to walk in in this hour, and He’s raising you up, actually to oversee and administrate, along with other leaders, the harvest. He’s getting your attention, and right now you’re experiencing the presence of God. He’s just drawing you, and He’s going to open doors for you to visit with other leaders that will actually journey with you. And there are moms right now who have been journeying in fear, fear for their family and fear for their children. And God is going to begin to speak to you, even in the night hours, waking you in the early morning hours, and as you pray, God is going to release all of heaven to minister to your families.

BEN: There are also builders in the audience, that God’s called you to build the kingdom.You’re in construction of some kind, but God is asking you to build His kingdom, in Jesus’ name.

SID: You know, there’s a whole new paradigm coming right now. In the past, the paradigm was that people should make a lot of money, that are Christians, and give money to people that are in full time ministry. And they’ve missed what God is doing. You are in as great a ministry as a person who is a pastor of a church. Your pulpit is the world. It’s the business world that are not going into churches. So it’s a whole new paradigm. You are in ministry, you can prophesy, because that impartation is there. And this book that you’ve written, “Prophetic Ministry: Strategic Key to the Harvest”, between the prayer and reading this book, I believe you’re going to fulfill that dream that you had of these younger people moving up. Ok, the choice is yours. But maybe you haven’t even put your little toes in. It’s time to tell your Father, Father God, “I am so sorry for the sins that I’ve committed.” Adultery, pornography, lying, stealing, addictions, sexual sins – you know what they are. But God is literally weeping for you right now, because He has a plan for you, and His plan is good. His plan is good. Tell your Father who loves you that you’re sorry and you don’t want to be separated from Him, and you believe that Jesus has washed away your sins, and you have made Jesus your Lord. And you ask Him to live inside of you. Not my words, just your words. I’ve interviewed people who have just had two-word prayers: “Jesus, help.” He’s just waiting for you to take a step, and when you take a step, you’re going to experience real love. Not love like the world, but the love of God. It’s pure, it’s clean, it’s what your heart pants for now.

 

29 Jan 10 Sid Roth welcomes Mary Joe Pennington

SID: Sid Roth here with Mary Jo, affectionately called MaJo by her family, Pennington, and her four-year-old granddaughter should have died, fell straight onto concrete, but she really didn’t fall, she was carried by angels, she saw the angels, her grandfather who is an engineer said it is humanly impossible for her not to have hurt herself, and to have fallen and to turn in mid-air the way she turned, unless there was some supernatural help, and then she went to heaven, and she talked about seeing little boys and little girls, tell me about that.

MARY JO: Yes, she saw eight boys and eight girls and these children ranged in age from around four-years-old to ten- years-old, some of these children had been aborted,
squeezed out before they could live, but one little boy, we found out in an unusual way, we were having, we were at, putting flowers by my mothers grave about two weeks
after she fell, and she had to find the grave of a little boy, she just had to, it was urgent for her to find this grave, and

SID: Didn’t you kind of wonder why a four-year-old is looking for a grave of someone?

MARY JO: Yes, her mother walked all over this huge cemetery looking for it, and the only way she found him, she finally mentioned that the, we wanted to leave and come back another day, and she said, “But the tent will be gone,” and apparently she had observed the tent from another place and knew from the tent how to get to where the grave was, and so they started looking at all…

SID: Observed the tent from another place, what do you mean?

MARY JO: She saw it from heaven.

SID: That’s what I thought you were saying; go ahead.

MARY JO: Michael showed it to her from heaven.

SID: Michael, who is Michael?

MARY JO: One of the eight boys and eight girls.

SID: Okay.

MARY JO: And this is the little boy she is looking for and she, when they finally looked around and they saw a tent over beyond my mothers grave about ninety feet, and so they drove back around and she walked up to that, turned her back to the tent, and looked out across the cemetery as thought getting her bearing, and walked straight to this little boys grave, and she said to her mother, “What does that say?” And she said, “Honey it says a little boy, his name is Michael.” She said this is it, and she saw him in heaven and she said why do we need to find his grave, and she said because there is another one. And she later revealed to us that he was killed in a crash, she told us how the crash happened and it was in the newspaper exactly as she told it to us, except she told us that the car was forced off the road by a big monster truck wit lump, lump tires, and then it hit a cement thing, and then it went through the air, it turned upside down and landed in a tree. Well the newspaper did not give the account of the monster truck because that person left the scene, but the car actually had been stopped by a cop and had been left, and after it left the cop, this was all in the newspaper, it…

SID: Could someone have read that article to her and she just made that up?

MARY JO: No, bubba, her brother, Patrick went back the next day to the cemetery and got the name off the marker, yes, and went to his school and looked it up on the internet and the newspaper clippings were there and he printed them and brought them to us and we were just astonished. Because the first thing her mother said, ask her what color
the car was and we did and she said it was red. She said ask her if it landed upside down or right side up, she said upside down, that’s when she told me all about how the wreck happened, and I was telling it back to Sandy and Sandy was saying man, I’ve got goose bumps, it is so unreal, it is just exactly like it is in the paper.

SID: Now what did she mean, there is another one?

MARY JO: Well there were some custody battles after that, the little boy had lived with his father but he was visiting his mother and her boyfriend wrecked the car and they were both killed, the man and the little boy, and the little boy wanted his sister to stay with his father, actually. He wanted her, him not to, her not to have to go with the mother anymore.

SID: Now how did you know all of these facts?

MARY JO: In the newspaper.

SID: So there is really no explanation for Victoria to have all this information?

MARY JO: No, not at all.

SID: Except to prove to you that there was something way beyond, if only you know what, if you even didn’t have those facts, I don’t see how a four-year-old could imagine what you have told me, even if you didn’t have that verification.

MARY JO: We have never been able to find the little boy whose parents…

SID: Did the little boy tell her anything else about the situation?

MARY JO: Yes, he said that he had been mean to kids at school, and that when the accident happened he had a stake through his throat and he couldn’t speak very well, but he was trying to say God forgive me for being mean to the kids at school. So as young as he was and he was only four and a half when he died, he knew his heart needed to turn to God even as he knew he was dying he asked God to forgive him for being mean to kids at school. Not that he would have gone, he would have gone to heaven anyway, but he knew his heart had to turn to God at that moment and then the angels took him on up to heaven.

SID: Now you told me something else that was interesting that by your swimming
pool people report seeing angels now.

MARY JO: Yes, there is a lifeguard angel that is at this diving board all the time now, he is very large, sometimes I can see him pretty clearly, I can see like breastplates, brown, like chest plate on him, I have seen him very well, but other people can too, when you step out our glass sliding door, and look toward our glass sliding door, the sliding board, you an see like a midst, in the shape of an angel, that you can see through it, but you can clearly see him, and what happens is the bars on the sliding board will reflect in his body, you can see them reflect several times up in his body, there is no reason for them to reflect, there is nothing to reflect there.

SID: Well, I also understand that your granddaughter Victoria goes to heaven often.

MARY JO: Yes, she does, in fact she said when she doesn’t go to heaven, heaven comes down to her.

SID: what does she mean by that?

MARY JO: She can often just look up and see God and Jesus just right there.

SID: You do realize that what you are telling me is very hard for a lot of our viewers to believe, I bet it was hard for you, what convinced you?

MARY JO: A lot of times I have doubt, but it, I’m always convinced because there is no way she would know what she knows, when I, she is a very normal child, when I ask her what she does when she goes out to play, if she can always look up and see God there, she says she just doesn’t look up, she has to keep her head where she can’t see him so she can just be normal and play because a lot of times all she has to do is glance up and see Jesus or God. And I tell her don’t go out to the road, I don’t want you outside by yourself, she said I’m never by myself, Jesus is always with me.

SID: You know what I loved in the book about when she sat in God’s lap, I don’t know about you but I would like to sit in God’s lap.

MARY JO: Well, she had seen God at the baby place and Jesus and her family but when Jesus and her, at the end, started into the Throne Room by themselves to go and tell God bye because she was going to come back, well Jesus wanted her to stay, but when she entered the Throne Room she was afraid of the living creatures, she saw things with lots of eyes and they made lots of noise and they scared her, but once they got past that, God motioned her to come to him and she ran to him and he allowed her to climb up his leg and across his lap into his lap and she…

SID: Now these living creatures are described in the Bible in the Throne Room, how was her description compared to the Bible description?

MARY JO: Well, she now calls them the four faces, but the first she said when she was very small, she was only five when she said they have lots of faces on their face, and she said they have lots of wings, they have lots of eyes on them, and their legs go down straight and they don’t have toes like us.

SID: How could she have known this? How could a four-year-old have known anything like this? You know Mary Jo, it’s, if you just open your Bible and you turn to Ezekiel the first chapter, and you read this four-year-olds account of what happened in her book, it is just like the Bible, she even talks about seeing the lion with the whiskers but she sees something in heaven that there is no way she could have known that happened to MaJo many years ago, which revolutionized Mary Jo’s life, come on back next week and we will continue with you on her adventures in heaven.

22 Jan 10 Sid Roth welcomes Mary Joe Pennington

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Mary Jo Pennington, she is affectionately called by her granddaughter, MaJo, and Majo you got the shock of your life, your granddaughter, you fall, knock her off of the top of the sliding board, she falls down some nine feet onto the cement but she falls in almost a suspended state, where she changes her position, your husband said there is no human explanation then you overhear her talking on the telephone to her mother and she said, six.

MARY JO: Six big, big, big, angels caught her and zoom, took her up to heaven.

SID: Now, I’m sure if it had been me I would have questioned my granddaughter at that point, what did you do?

MARY JO: Well, we were so surprised that we couldn’t think of anything intelligent to ask her, so we asked her what color were their robes and their wings and their robes were white and their wings were white, shiny, sparkling, and the angles themselves glowed, and when, they had, I said how big were they, and she said really big, their hands were this wide, like from here to here, she said and they were warm and glistering and glowing, and when they hold my hand, she said, when them hold my hand my hand
glowed too, they made her light up like a light bulb, she shown like a light bulb.

SID: Now where did they take her?

MARY JO: They took her up, she said they passed all the things that she likes, the trees and the birds, they passed an airplane that was taking off and they were going straight up and the plane was going sideways, she looked back and the earth was getting smaller and smaller, when she first saw it, it was like rounded and then it got where it was like a little ball, and then she, they got to a place, it was way beyond the stars, that there was a stairway that had angels going back and forth up to heaven and her six angels and her continued up the stairway, and when they got to within, they told her to look ahead and it was like there was this big glowing, she said she thought they were going to land on the sun it was so glowing. And they got closer and closer but it wasn’t hot, it just was glowing like the sun but much brighter, and when they landed she was in front of a gate and a small angel, that had been coming up along with her, up the stairs, came over to the gate and tickled the gate with her feather and the gate laughed, and swing open.

SID: Now when she went into heaven she saw some babies, tell me about that.

MARY JO: Yes, she said an angel came out to tell her where was Jesus, and then took her to the baby place, and the baby place that she first was taken to was a really big, really large beautiful building, and in it were long, lots of tables that were very soft, and Jesus and the angels were working on little babies that Victoria could hold in her hand, and they were making them whole, and the babies, even though they stayed little, they instantly, after Jesus made them whole, had mental capacity to be able to speak and understand and they were made strong to where they could use their arms and their legs but they stayed little, they grow the normal size that they would on the earth, but when they are made whole they have full mental capacity.

SID: Now in your book you talk about some terminology she uses about, she said the baby would squeeze out, explain that.

MARY JO: Yes, she went to this other room they had a beautiful baby room and this little baby, the first baby she saw she said her was squeezed out of her mama before her were old enough to live. And we met several babies there that were, and then she started to tell me about a little baby that had gone full term, but she started to look kind of sick when she told me about her, she said she was the garbage baby.

SID: You know what, a four-year-old, is there any way a four-year-old could know about abortion?

MARY JO: No, there is no way, but she, each of the babies that had been aborted were this little and they were squeezed out before they were old enough to live, and then the garbage baby was left at a dumpster and it died. And when the garbage baby told her that story, she became a little sad, and they went and got, a kangaroo came and put her in her pouch, it was a warm place for this little baby to be, and the kangaroo actually took them for a ride out in this beautiful park and Victoria couldn’t fit all the way in and she hung her legs out and they went bouncing, they would bounce as high as the sky, and…

SID: You know what, if she was making this whole thing up, here is the deal as I see it, number one, the way she fell with not anything even broken, you can tell there is something supernatural, me, I don’t have a better explanation than angels caught her, and for a four-year-old to have such a graphic description of abortion, but it gets even more exciting than that, she sees things in heaven that we read about in the scriptures, again, there would be no way she could know these facts but let’s go to a clip of a report on the children she saw in heaven. Victoria: there was eight boys, eight girls; there was eight boys, eight girls.

15 Jan 10 Sid Roth welcomes Mary Joe Pennington

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. What would you do, you have your granddaughter over, you are enjoying yourself in your swimming pool in the back yard, and all of a sudden Mary Joe Pennington decides to go up on the diving board and she yells out, “My God, I have broken my baby,” what happened?

MARY JO: Well I climbed to the top of the sliding board I have a slid that goes down into the pool, with great caution and care because I hadn’t done that in over four years, and as I got to the top, Victoria said, “MaJo, can I come up and slid down with you? And I said sure, and she, I didn’t realize she just scooted right up behind me, she was just right behind me, and my old knees just gave way and I fell flat, really hard, and my body hit her and she went flying backwards at a very high rate of speed and it was nine feet to the concrete, and I just screamed, “Oh God, I have broken my baby,” and I kept screaming that and screaming it and…

SID: Don, you were watching, first of all what is your profession?

DON: I’m an engineer.

SID: All right, this is your granddaughter too, what did you see with your eyes.

DON: Well, I was in the pool and alongside the pool about opposite where the sliding board was, and I heard MaJo scream, I wasn’t looking at her at the time but I heard her scream, “Oh God, I’ve broken my baby,” and I looked up in time to watch Victoria fly backwards away from the sliding board, and she stretched out horizontally, her little
body stretched out horizontally, I saw it rotate 180 degrees so her feet were pointing in the opposite direction.

SID: While she was still horizontal in the air.

DON: Horizontal.

SID: You’re an engineer, how can you account for that?

DON: Well, what I was seeing was not making sense to my brain, and then I saw her almost float and not only go straight down to the concrete but she moved over about six
feet away from the sliding board and settled down on her little backside and her elbows and hands. And I just couldn’t believe what, I expected to see her body flying in all kinds of parts.

SID: So you obviously went to examine what was going on, where were you, were you still on top of the sliding board?

MARY JO: Yes, I couldn’t get down at all, and I couldn’t see her when she was behind me and then suddenly, and she didn’t scream, I was screaming, but she didn’t scream, but suddenly I saw her settle in my view where I could see her, and I felt as though I had to keep my eyes on her if I glanced away she would fall into a million pieces, I just had to keep eye contact wit her and I was still screaming I’ve broken my baby but I just knew
that if I stopped, I don’t know why I felt like I could hold her together just by looking at her, and then Grandpa came around to check her out.

SID: What did you see?

DON: Well, she was trying to get up, she said, “Grandpa, I’m okay, I’m all right,” and she
was physically trying to get up. And I made her lay still, and I said please let me check you all over, because I did not know what I was going to find.

SID: You’re telling me she fell over thrust like with a force and fell nine feet onto cement?

DON: Right.

SID: Yeah, so, who was with her?

DON: I checked her over, I checked, you know her head, and her neck and her spine, her arms and her legs, and they all worked and there was no blood and she appeared perfectly normal, so at that point I did let her get up and then I noticed two little places on her body, she had a little scrape on her right elbow, and a little red mark on her palm, and that is the only evidence of any injury that I could find.

SID: Okay, you are an engineer, a logical man, how do you account for this, it’s not making sense to my brain.

DON: Well, it didn’t make sense to mine and I can’t account for it now, it’s – in light of what we learned later, from talking to Victoria, but at that time it just made no sense to me at all.

SID: Now, MaJo, when you heard your granddaughter talking to her mother on the
telephone you got your first inkling of what really was going on, what did you over hear?

MARY JO: She said, “Mommy, I’m not broken, Majo knocked me off the slide, and I heard God yell, “Save the children, catch Victoria, and six big, big, big, big angels came and caught me and zoom, took me right up to heaven.”

SID: Now Don, is there any other explanation for how she fell and the fact that she didn’t break her body?

DON: No, not to me there’s not.

SID: I can’t think of anything.

DON: well we just thought it was a great miracle of God’s protection that kept her from serious injury, but when we heard her talk to her mother on the phone that she had gone to heaven, we were just, we didn’t know what to think at that point.

MARY JO: Speechless.

SID: Okay, they had like a home video of Victoria when this happened and her reporting on what she saw; let’s go to that right now.

Video: all right, now show me what happened.

Victoria: From that.

MARY JO: Show me.

Victoria: When the angel caught me, I said boom.

SID: Okay, now that’s kind of, she’s seven now, I can see where you went from vague, to a miracle, you must have been a grateful grandmother.

MARY JO: I was, I couldn’t stop thanking God, for this wonderful blessing that he gave us that he saved her, I just couldn’t stop.

SID: And she keeps going back to heaven, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, don’t go away, I know you’ll be back.

08 Jan 10 Sid Roth welcomes Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov, and Alyosha, I had something amazing happen the other night. I was watching television, and I heard a man speaking about predictions in the Bible, and it was fine. It was very good, very stimulating intellectually. But then, all of a sudden he said a Hebrew prayer, and I could feel the presence of God. It just accelerated. Why do you believe that’s going on? Why is there such a supernatural presence of God on the language of Hebrew?

ALYOSHA: Well again, we were talking about science just catching up with the word of God.

We know that God spoke the word of God first to Moses in the Hebrew language.

SID: Of course.

ALYOSHA: And there was a Swiss scientist, Hans Jenny, and I’m not a scientist, I’m just retelling it in simple words, but he had an experiment. He created this instrument called a tonoscope, and he would put sounds at one end and he would beam it to a different substance, like sand, to see what kind of shapes the sound would create. And then he tried different speech, different languages. None of the modern languages responded, did anything. But when somebody spoke Hebrew into the tonoscope, it started to put Hebrew vowels on the sand.

SID: You’re telling me the sound took shape from this tonoscope, and the actual vowels from Hebrew were outlined in the sand?

ALYOSHA: Yes, they were outlined in the sand, and there are pictures on the internet you can look up. Yeah.

JODY: This was done in 1967. 1967.

SID: Ahh. Very historic year for Israel. Tell me more about this Hebrew language. You just did a music CD in which a sabra, a native-born Israeli, spoke the words of God in Hebrew. Alyosha, you played that for your congregation, and what effect did it have on the people there?

ALYOSHA: Well actually I want to tell you this, that when I was mixing the CD, you know, I have to listen to the whole thing, and I was just sitting as one track was copying to another, and I started to see all kinds of images that I haven’t seen before. It was like, gosh, I’m seeing visions.

So I said let’s make an experiment and see how people in our congregation respond. And we have a practice where we like to put on quiet music and sit in the presence of God, and just receive rest from Him and love from Him, you know. And so, I brought this CD and said “We’re going to do this with a CD today.” And so as it was going, I think as it ended, it just went for about thirty minutes, people stood frozen. They just couldn’t move, and I think for another ten minutes, they could not move. And when they started to talk, gradually they said that they have not experienced the depth of the rest in their lives, like they had experienced listening to this.

SID: We’re going to have you, in a little bit in this program, play on the piano. But you don’t just play music anymore. What are you expecting God to do when you play on a piano?

ALYOSHA: Well I believe that music has languages. God can do healing, God can bring people into rest, God can give people visions. Often in our congregation, I’ll just go to the piano and I’ll say “Hey, let’s see what God is speaking to you.” I mean we can all hear God, because He created us. Sometimes people come to the piano, they touch the piano so they will get healed, because those frequencies that we just spoke about, come through the sound, and they go through the wood into our body, and if they’re healing, they just align whatever needs to be aligned in the cells, and the person gets healed.

SID: Literally, I can imagine that when I pray for someone now, now that I understand how sound operates, the highest frequencies, if you will, are the words of God, written in the truth book, the Bible. And when this word of God is spoken, literally the matter of the body rearranges. And when the word of God, and that’s what Alyosha’s saying, it’s prophetic playing of music, when this word of God comes through the vibrations of the music, it literally is going to rearrange your cells. I would imagine, this is such a new tool that we’ll be offering, but I believe we’re going to get reports of people with insomnia that can sleep, people with all sorts of tumors that are going to disappear, blood disease is going to be normal. But I can’t wait to hear you play that piano. Tell you what, you prepare your heart to have the very fibers of your being rearranged, as you hear the presence of God coming on this piano. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back, and you’re going to hear Alyosha play prophetically.