Our Guest Michelle Gold

Michelle Gold

Sid: Sid Roth hear with Michelle Gold and Michelle I’m still thinking about the miracle that happened when you had the surgery that many people would never be able to sing or talk again after a surgery like that. It not only was successful but what happened to your voice?

Michelle: The amazing is that when after my dad was all worried about me; would I ever be able to sing would I ever be able to sing, would I ever be able to sing every night? We first of all Joe and I got married he mentored me in my faith as a Jewish believer. Even though he was in the church he was a kosher hearted Gentile.

Sid: This was the Youth Pastor that you met when you first went to the church go ahead.

Michelle: Yes and Joe and I fell in love with each other the whole another story in itself but the miracle was I went on a tour after that singing like 6 nights a week it was amazing. I mean that’s unheard of after I spent 13 years I could lose my voice on a cough prior to that you know. I went from losing my voice on one conversation to being able to sing every night and 2 on Sunday.

Sid: And you told me how many notes higher you could sing.

Michelle: I would say at least 8 notes higher if not 12 my voice therapist was in shock, she was amazed.

Sid: Okay you join Jews for Jesus and you go on tour with them tell me about that.

Michelle: So after the Lord healed my voice miracles of miracles. I get invited to go a tour with Jews for Jesus traveling music group called “The Liberated Wailing Wall.” And I’m thinking “This will be great because I could use everything God’s done for me and I could use my voice to sing every night on that tour and 2 times on Sunday was pretty miraculous. It was just amazing how hundreds of people came to the Lord through that tour every night when we sang we would do an altar call and the people would re-dedicate their hearts to the Lord. Even one night pastors were saved; one of them we shared the gospel on college campuses. It was amazing to see what the Lord could do when I was weak in the past and now the Lord restored everything to me and I was able to strong.

Sid: Now did you actually go out on the street with Jews for Jesus and witness?

Michelle: Yes I did, we were required you know that was one of the beautiful requirements of the tour. That they didn’t want us to be so focused on the business of music they want us to know that it’s a ministry, that we love people that we want to serve people and bring salvation and so part of that training was go out on the streets share through talking to people and interviewing people. And we always had to ask people who do you think Jesus is?

Sid: Tell me one experience on the streets.

Michelle: Gosh the best experience I had on the streets was at a college campus singing about the Lord and people coming up to me one by one just staring at me wanting and then asking me about the Lord immediately after singing. These people never would have talked to me if I hadn’t been standing there making a fool of myself singing in the middle of the sidewalk on the college campus.

Sid: Okay tell me about the vision God has put in your heart the urgency to reach Jewish people.

Michelle: Now over the years I… when I first started singing for the Lord it was a contemporary Christian kind of sound and I just thought I’m not going to talk to my own people about the Lord because frankly Sid it was so hard for me to be rejected and I didn’t like that not being liked. But when I shared my faith with Jewish people sometimes they would turn from me and I would lose the friendship. But you know the Lord started convicting me that sharing the good news is way more important than keeping a friendship intact that what good is it if I become their friends and then they don’t know about heaven and they don’t know about a better place. What if today is their last day they need to know that heavens real but forget everything else. But the Lord convicted me I had to share my faith with Jewish people one day when I was sitting down for dinner with some friends. And I said “Why do you need to go to the Jewish people so what can’t you just shard your faith with anybody everybody needs to hear the good news you know Jesus came for everyone?” And I was thinking maybe I don’t know and I got up and I started to talk to the Lord about it and He gave me He spoke to my heart very clearly and God said “If you don’t reach my Jewish people who else will, who else will go?” And I said “But Lord why are we the chosen people are we so special why are we so chosen.” And the Lord spoke to my heart “You have to reach the chosen people because we are the forgotten people.” not forgotten by God but forgotten by men nobody wants to reach the Jewish people. It was then and there I knew that I have to go and it was confirmed with the scripture of Isaiah 6 where he’s told he says “Here I am send me.” And also Romans 10:14 I love that scripture where it says “But how can they call on Him to save them unless they believe and how can they believe if they’ve never heard about Him and how can they hear unless someone tells them and how can anyone go without being sent; beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news.” So I knew Sid I had to go, I had to be the one to share my faith and I then wrote a beautiful album’s worth of music where I could share my faith in a way that Jewish would understand where I’m coming from.

Sid: Tell me about the song “Who Will God?”

Michelle: Well that’s just it I just realized I’ve got to share my faith with my own people there’s just no excuse times running out. I don’t know if these is going to be my last day. Sure I’m 38 but I don’t know and what about what about my friends what about my father and people in my life that need the Lord. This just can’t be it this earth can’t be it there’s more than this there’s so much more there’s another place where they’ll be no more tears and no more pain; I want them to go with them I what to go with them to that place one day I want to share my faith. I constantly pray Sid every day “Lord fill me with urgency, fill me with urgency let not disaster strike before I have an urgency to reach my people; they need to hear the good news and the church needs to know about their Jewish roots so little Jewish girls like me who walk in will know the Jewish Messiah that they need to know and they will be revival in the land. So I am hoping that if you are listening today that you’re catching my contagious compassion; my contagious passion for sharing my faith and sharing the hope I have.

Sid: Michelle Gold “Who Will Go.”

Excerpt “Who Will Go.”

Sid: Now Michelle I’ve been in Jewish ministry for over 40 years and I can tell you I know what it’s like when there’s a move of God’s Spirit on Jewish people and I know what it’s like when there’s not a move of God’s Spirit on Jewish people. When I first got saved in the early 70’s there was an amazing move on Jewish people and many of the leaders today in the movement came to the Lord, but since that time outside of the Russian Jews there has been no big openness among Jewish people but things have changed we are hitting a major move and outpouring of God’s Spirit in Israel. And as I said that God just told me someone’s neck and back was just healed in Jesus name, and someone’s muscles in their arm. There had been a pain in your muscles you don’t have it anymore in Jesus name. What I have found is the combination of the set time to favor Zion that’s where we are right now plus understanding the supernatural. You see when I spoke almost a month ago in Jerusalem we had 550 unsaved Jewish people and they did not know I was going to talk about Jesus. They knew they were coming for a lecture on the supernatural and the minute I started speaking there was a swoosh of the Holy Spirit and many of them got instantly healed they stood up testified to the fact that they were physically healed and then listened to a full presentation of the gospel. The Bible says the Jew requires a sign the Jew requires a miracle and that’s why so many Jewish people are being swept into the New Age are being swept into the occult because no one is telling them my people about Jesus. I am all in favor or having rallies for Israel I happen to have dual citizenship I’m very pro-Israel I am all in favor of bless Israel nights and humanitarian activities towards the Jewish people. And I’ll tell you what God’s in favor and God’s going to bless you for it and I have to tell you there is an urgency to proclaim the gospel to Jewish people right now. There is a window that God has opened and woe is me if we don’t at this moment in history. But you must be mentored in moving in the supernatural…. It’s a phenomenal thing when Jewish people see the supernatural in things like Buddhism and New Age they flock. Michelle I was in Boca Raton and they have a New Age Buddhism Center just for Jewish people there and I drove by the place was filled with cars of Jewish people.

Michelle: Yeshua would be crying.

Sid: But this is the set time I want you listening right now I want you equipped to move in the supernatural we’re about ready to see the greatest miracles the world has ever seen. And I’m going to tell you one more thing when you reach out to a Jewish person… look when you are pro-Israel when you got to a bless Israel rally, when you give money for Jewish humanitarian activities you have already found out God will bless you. But how much more is God going to bless you when give a Jewish person the most important thing they could ever have. Michelle do you know about the increase in anti-Semitism that is going on throughout the world right now in Paris, France and in Ukraine Jewish people can’t wait to get out and come to Israel.

Michelle: My goodness I’m praying and you know they say the greatest defense the greatest way to offend the Jewish person is to not share about heaven and not share about Yeshua that He’s the way, the truth and the life you know. Everybody is so politically correct it just breaks my heart, it breaks my heart that we would hold back on great news like that there’s a better place.

Sid: Now God is really expanding your gifting and I believe that you could sing a song that God is going to give you right now with a word from God no music, would you do that right now?

Michelle: Amen. (Michelle worshiping) Oh Father God bless your people use them, use us Lord God because mighty vessels Lord God. And I just feel that somebody’s out there you need to be dipped in the waters of God; you’ve been like Naman you’ve been saying “No” but God is saying “Yes.” Dip yourself in the water of God there is healing there and you’re going to be touched right now thank You Lord for healing that person listening thank You Father God.

Sid: And I’m hearing that God is healing joints whether it’s your elbow or your hip any joint area, fingers the pain is gone it’s being removed in Jesus Name. Michelle I know that Yeshua is your life tell me about the time someone tried to assault you on a train in New York City.

Michelle: I was on the F train in New York City at 4:13 in the afternoon. I happened to be reading 2 Corinthians 4:13 about professing your faith in the Lord. Well I had been doubting Yeshua once again was He really the Messiah and I needed to know. And I had been falling asleep reading my Bible and heard this voice say “Wake up, wake up!” And I kept waking up and all of a sudden I stood up from my seat and a man that looked like something like 6’3” wrapped his arm around my neck and started to proceed to kill me. And my whole life flashed before my very eyes and the authority of the Lord that I had just received from reading that word came over me. It was amazing the voice I didn’t even recognize the voice that came out of me as he was pinching against my neck. And I said “In the name of Jesus back off.” And the man completely backed off. I was in my 20’s I had a lot of expensive things on me I was completely untouched the man did not touch me he completely let me go I walked.. the train happened to stop at that moment you know it had just gone through a tunnel I could have been with the man a long time it just stopped and it opened up and he watched me walk off. And you know what I was so filled with the faith of the Lord I then turned around and proceeded to rebuke him in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit (Laughing). I was so shaken up with praise I immediately fell down to the platform and started praising God. (Laughing) That night we didn’t cancel our Bible study we told all the youth in our youth group about what the Lord had done and their faith we increased. It was pretty awesome and not only that I saw God heal my relationship with my mom I saw Him heal her bipolar. He did an amazing miracle on her and she’s been an awesome Mom to me the most positive person in my life. Gosh I had a car accident I spun around 3 times hit a wall came out saying “Hallelujah praise the Lord” stood up no pain. God’s done so much for me it’s amazing.

Sid: Michelle I want you to give us one last thought what is God telling you to tell us right now?

Michelle: I feel the Lord is telling us to actually you know I was reading your book recently and I’m not saying this to bring glory to anybody Sid but I’m with you 100%. I think it is time for the Body of Messiah to receive and to be blessed with the supernatural move of God. We have to embrace it it cannot be life as usual it cannot be church as usual we need the supernatural move of God even if you’re not going to jump up and down scream kind of person, you can experience the supernatural in the peacefulness in your seat right now in your congregations. And we need to embrace those Biblical feasts because we need to provoke the Jewish people to jealousy it is time for such a time as this let’s not waste anymore time. We need to get on board with the Spirit of the living God people are hungry, they’re thirsty let us go into God’s presence and let us move in the supernatural and draw close to Him and bring His people home to Him.

Sid: Now I don’t know if those listening can feel what I can feel right now but there is an overwhelming presence of God in this studio. I believe that as I proclaim the name of Yeshua as I’m going to do in one moment whatever condition you have put your hand if you have a heart problem put your hand on your heart. If you have a pain like on your neck or wherever your pain is whether you have diabetes or whatever put your hand on your body and this is what the Bible says “Those that believe will lay hands on the sick,” you believe your laying hands on the sick and it says “They will recover.” So when I  count to three I’m going to say “Yeshua” and your receive it 1, 2, 3 Yeshua be whole in Yeshua’s name.

Our Guest Dave Roberson

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Sid: My guest Dave Roberson speaking to him at his headquarters at Tulsa, Oklahoma and Dave doesn’t know this but we have a mess in our computer program. I mean a first class mess and a woman came applied for work that had worked for a major ministry and she had more credentials than I would ever need and I knew that God sent her. So I offered her the job and she aid “Well let me pray about it.” She goes home she calls me and she says “I can’t work for you.” And I said “Why can’t you work for me?” She said “Because I saw your webpage and I saw you believe in speaking in tongues and laughing in the Spirit and miracles; now I believe in healing but I don’t believe all those things.” She’d been listening to a man on the radio that didn’t know what he’d been talking about and she adopted his philosophy. So I said “Well come on in and when she came to the office I said “Listen whether you work for me or not I know God sent you here for a purpose.” And so I gave her a couple of videos of… I gave her one of the Smithton Outpouring that I had moderated and then I gave her a book called “The Walk of the Spirit the Walk of Power” the vital role of praying in tongues. So she thanked me for these things and I didn’t know if I ever hear from her again but she went home she watched the videos, she read every word of the book “The Walk of the Spirit the Walk of Power,” She calls me the next day and she said “Sid I don’t understand this but I have completely changed all of my thinking on praying in tongues and I believe that I’m supposed to work for you.” Now she’s doing a marvelous job but I’ve never seen someone from Dave from that type of a mindset just reading a book and just having a transformation like that.

Dave: Sid the book was 2 years alone in editing 2 years. About 4 or 5 years I got moved into the Spirit one day and I began to He said “Son” the Lord was talking to me in a season of prayer and He says He said “The book is going to, the book I’ve given you is going to going to do a work in the Body of Christ in the last day.” He said “It’ll have an anointing to change people’s lives that read it and it’ll change the very foundation they walk in from not walking in power to walking in power; it’ll change the very foundation of even error in doctrine because the mysteries that you’re praying when your praying in tongues is the mystery of everything Christ is in you to you the hope of glory. When the Father is able to answer this then the Holy Spirit is able to begin to feed to your spirit revelation knowledge and truth.”

Sid: But David let me read to you what my producer wrote about your book in my notes and keep in mind her job is to read as many good Christian books as possible and she does this and she does it well; this is what she wrote about your book for me she said All I can say this is the best spiritual book I’ve read in years; he says things about speaking in tongues that I’ve never heard anyone explain so clearly. Now keep in mind this woman is charismatic and has been a believer over 25 years and to make a statement like that but help me out Dave. I understand why some people believe you should not speak in tongues in churches obviously I don’t agree with them that I understand. But you know what I don’t understand, is most charismatic churches today very few of the members even pray in tongues that I don’t understand. It’s all most like a new generation has grown up that missed the original move of the charismatic moment and they really don’t understand the necessity and the life changing experience by praying in unknown tongues. Are you bumping into this yourself?

Dave: Oh yes and I think I understand it, there’s an advantage of praying in the Spirit and He starts feeding these mysteries to you and that’s where all of this came from. But the early church the high literacy rate one of the main sources of teachers even was the prophets and they operated of course under the foundation and revelation of the apostle. But when He said about prophesying and one stands by and let him judge and the others wait their turn and God is not the author of confusion. That the kind of prophesying he was talking about was the kind that when they were able to receive a mystery from God and they would come and it was a lot of the fruit of the church. Paul gave a glimpse into his private prayer life when he says “Look in church he says I’d speak the language I’d rather that you’d understand so you could receive also 10,000 words in the unknown tongue.” Then Paul also gave a glimpse into his private prayer life when he says “That I thank my God that I speak in tongues more than you all.” And what he was really saying is “I thank my God that I pray more in the mysteries that encompass the understanding of Christ than all of you.” He says “But yet in church I’d rather be speak in the language you speak that you might understand also the revelation that I’ve been receiving from praying the 10,000 words in the unknown tongue. So praying in tongues to Paul was a real source of revelation knowledge and the devil knew that. They didn’t have copies of the New Testament when the churches were first forming. And so he knew that to kill their revelation that he’d have to kill the effectiveness of this one particular revelation gift which is praying in tongues. So of course he pushed it into the dark ages but the devil walks with same fear of this real simple gift as he did then. He knows that if a charismatic person will start praying any amount at all in tongues in intervention that God is going to be astounding. They’re going to find His plan, they’re going to start understanding the moves of the Spirit and this would be the last thing that the devil would want them to find out. So as a master strategy, a master of deception and seduction, he won’t tell them if their already filled and being charismatic he won’t tell them “Don’t have this experience if they’re that far along” he’ll just convince them not to pray or down play the effectiveness or fight very very hard anybody with any revelation that’s on it. A lot of people will say “Well you will pray too much in tongues and you’ll get weird.” Well Sid I knew a lot of people that were weird and prayed too much in tongues and ended up getting sane and not weird. But he fights it because it takes the ceilings off of people’s lives.

Sid: Well the fact is that many of us will pray in unknown tongues and not have one spiritual feeling and then say “Well I don’t feel anything so maybe it’s not so effective.” Did you have many feelings when you started praying long periods of time in tongues?

Dave: No Sid sometimes I’d have some but sometimes my emotions would even be fought. I got… feel negative feelings it’s the only reason that I stayed in because of the vision you know and I made a commitment not because of what I was feeling. But since then I can make this statement boldly “If you want edification pray in tongues.” The book will tell you all the forms that you build up and got it. But for feelings you know worship God I’ll worship God. But edification doesn’t necessarily come in the form of feelings.

Sid: What does edification mean?

Dave: Edification is to build yourself up into God by understanding his word or through anointings that will come to cause you to understand above the things that Jesus said you’re free from. And answer the things that He said you can have. Edification is a process that takes place that delivers you out and into.

Sid: I’m going to ask you a very difficult question. Is it possible in your opinion to be baptized in the Holy Spirit and not be given the ability to pray in unknown tongues?

Dave: Sid I believe that the strongholds can be erected right on the mind. And the Holy Spirit creates the words in our spirit and so our mouth will try to shape what He’s creating to finish the circuit of prayer. If they’ve got a block or been taught against it but as far as letting Him step in a block will rise up and they’ll get fear when that manifestation begins to come. So personally I believe that they can get short circuit just short of tongues.

Sid: Yes but in the book of Corinthians it says “Do all speak in tongues?”

Dave: That was part of the gifting he listed “Do all work miracles or all healing?” He was talking about the qualifying gifting of the Holy Spirit. Then he said “Do all interpret?” And that particular gifting for the edification of the body he was speaking “Would all have the tongues for interpretation in a public assembly?”

Sid: So where people miss it there are different types of tongues. There’s the private devotional but then there’s the tongue for a public assembly.

Dave: That’s right.

Sid: So he was talking about all the gifts in the public assembly not the private devotional prayer language that throws a lot of people for curves because they think all tongues are the same, and that wherever Paul’s talking about it he’s talking different rules for different types of tongues.

Dave: That’s correct. And in fact this book “The Walk of the Spirit the Walk of Power” it’ll set you so free. The testimony you gave Sid boy we have testimonies of people that fought day and night almost. And the book took such a hold of them that built such faith in the Spirit. One guy threw it against the wall 5 different times only to go pick it up again and ended up baptized in the Holy Spirit in an avid prayer service.

Sid: But you know what I see something that’s even better and what I see is although the book is wonderful for someone fighting it to get all of the answers I see the book for someone that already is baptized in the Holy Spirit and prays in unknown tongues to push them into that next level there was an anointing to push them there.

Sid Roth

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Sid: On yesterday’s broadcast I pointed out to what is God’s law of evangelism go to the Jew first, use signs and wonders and it opens up a supernatural door of evangelism to all people. And I told you that I’d been Jewish believer in the Messiah for over 30 years and the Holy Spirit is showing me that if you’ll understand me you’ll understand my people. I’m a classic American Jew my father born in Poland, my mother Rochester New York. And I was raised in a home that went to a traditional Jewish synagogue. I’ll tell you my first anti-Semitic recollections, we would go to the beach and at the beach that we went to there was sign and it said “No dogs, or Jews, or (It didn’t say the word blacks but it did say the “N” word) allowed.”
Isn’t it interesting that the devil, and that’s who did that sign, loves Jews and African Americans together. I don’t believe that’s an accident that the devil, the Ku Klux Klan, the anti-Semites all lump Jews and African American’s together.
I’ll tell you what the Holy Spirit’s been showing me there is a special destiny between African American Christians and Jews. Why do you think there seems to be hostility between Jew and African Americans in many large US cities? It’s the devil that’s causing this knowing that there’s a destiny a special call on African Americans to reach out to Jewish people. In the civil rights days whose blood was shed along with African Americans in the forefront of these marches? You look it over you’ll see it was Jews that went arm and arm we shall overcome remember that? Anyway Holy Spirit wanted you to know that.
I also know something else that the next great move of God’s Spirit it’s going to start in Israel and it’s going to touch Hispanic Jews. There’s something going on in the Spirit with Hispanic Jews we’re going to see them coming to the Lord as quickly as Russian Jews have been coming to the Lord. So I didn’t have a great deal of anti-Semitism but I can tell you although I didn’t have a great deal of anti-Semitism being raised there was something in my blood in my genes if you will that had a them and us mentality. And worse we Jews are superior to you Gentiles and you Gentiles there’s something wrong with this Jesus; there’s something wrong with this Christianity and if you asked me I could not give you an answer I didn’t know anything about Jesus.
I’ll tell you about what my great source book for Jesus was one day I was reading a book and at the top of the book was “Ripley’s Believe it or Not His Most Amazing Facts.” So I went through and I found it pretty interesting and I found one that got me outraged. I remember running to my mother and saying “The nerve of the Mr. Ripley look what he says he says ‘Jesus is Jewish!’ How in the world…” because again it was the them and us and I didn’t see anything Jewish about Christians, I didn’t see anything Jewish about Jesus, I didn’t see anything the Christians had that I wanted to be quite candid with you I didn’t know anything. I didn’t know about the anti-Semitism over the centuries, I didn’t know anything about Jesus, I never read the New Testament. Tell you the truth I had never even read the Old Testament, oh I knew the Bible stories and I knew how to read Hebrew didn’t understand a word of what I was reading. But something in me, something deep within me had a separation, or as the Bible calls it a middle wall of separation between myself and Gentiles.
So you got to understand this you would bump into a Jewish person like me and I have to tell you I was turned off with the hypocrisy of the synagogue. I would only go on High Holidays. Why? To please my parents God wasn’t in the equation it had nothing to do with God I would go for social reasons or to please my parents not for God. And oh I was told “Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, we Jews fast and pray that our sins are forgiven” but I wasn’t even sure about anything personal with God I wasn’t sure about happened when you died. I didn’t even think about things like that.
So even though I was turned off on religion of Judaism, even though I was never thinking about God if you would come up to me as I’m reminded one Christian came up to my father and started witnessing when he found out he was my father my dad, I tell you that Christian might never witness again after my father got through with him. Although I didn’t understand any of that I was zero interested in Jesus I had bought the lie. And the lie is “You can’t be Jewish and believe in Jesus.” But the better statement is that’s almost like saying “You can’t be Jewish and believe in the Messiah.” And you know… you want to hear something crazy “If you won’t believe the truth you believe the lie.” There’s a whole group of Jewish people they’re Chasidic Jews they’re a sect called Lubavitcher and they believe, I mean in New York alone there’s like 100,000 of them. They believe that the Messiah was their rabbi who died and he’s coming back from the dead, his name was Schneerson. Now there’s some good news and some bad news with that the good news is for the first time a group of Jewish people are actually believing what the Bible has to say that the Messiah would rise from the dead that’s good. The bad news is they have the wrong Messiah it wasn’t Schneerson we know as a fact Schneerson never even went on a trip to Israel let alone lived in Israel. And the Jewish prophet Micah tells us where the Messiah would be born; He’d be born in Bethlehem, of course there were 5 Bethlehems at the time Jesus was born. So that’s why Micah said “He’d be born in Bethlehem of Judea.” Jesus just happened to be born in Bethlehem of Judea.
So don’t get the idea that just because I don’t like the hypocrisy I see in the synagogue as much as you don’t like the hypocrisy you see perhaps in churches don’t get the idea because I don’t care for the religion of Judaism; don’t get the idea that I’m not proud of being a Jew. Don’t get the idea that I don’t want to be a Jew; listen God put something in Jewish people’s DNA I’m convinced of this. And if you could you know those little doll babies you punch in the stomach and they something well if I well if I was one of those doll babies and you punched me in the stomach this is what would come out of my mouth. “I was born a Jew and I will die a Jew.” It’s an instinct don’t ask me why I can just tell you that that is inside of me. So you may think I’m not so interested in being Jewish because of my attitude towards religion but you’re wrong, get that and get that straight. I was born a Jew and I will die a Jew and even as a believer in Jesus which I am, and even as a sold-out believer in Jesus and let me tell you something if I had a choice of being Jewish or being a believer in Jesus I would take being a believer in Jesus any day. But I’d still have that tape recording inside of me. Because it came from God and if you really want to understand that if you turn to Jeremiah the 31st chapter you can find out exactly why that’s inside of me, why God did it. Listen to this, Jeremiah chapter 31 verse 35 “Thus says the Lord who gives the sun for light by day and the ordinances of the moon and the stars for light by night; who disturbs the sea and it’s waves roar the Lord of hosts is His name; if those ordinances depart from before me says the Lord then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a nation before me forever.” In other words, what is God saying when you don’t see the waves in the sea and the stars and the sun and the moon and the natural order of things you will not see the Jew. But as long as you see the natural order of things on planet earth there will be a physical Jew on planet earth. And I’ll tell you one of the greatest proofs that the Bible is from God or one of the greatest proofs that the Bible is not from God involves the Jew. If there were not Jews on the face of this earth then the Bible would be a fraud a phony. But against impossible odds when you think about it for a moment in the year 70 AD we lost our temple and then we lost our city and then we lost our country and then we were scattered to the four corners of the earth. And as a matter of fact here let me read something to you, Deuteronomy chapter 28 tells you exactly what was going to happen to us it says “It shall be (I’m starting in the last part of 63rd verse) and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess and then the Lord will scattered you from all people from one end of the earth to the other and there you shall serve other gods which neither you or your fathers have known wood and stone. And among those nations you shall find no rest nor shall the soul of your foot have a resting place but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart failing eyes, anguish of soul and your life shall be in doubt before you. You shall fear day and night and have no assurance of life. In the morning you shall say ‘Oh that it was evening” and in the evening you shall say ‘Oh that it was morning’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart.” And this has been the history of my Jewish people. We’re out of time right now I’ll pick up right here.

Our Guest Robbie Dawkins

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SID: You know what I love about Robbie, anything he can do, you can do better. He teaches this step by step and then he immediately takes people out on the street. You know, you talk about it as if that’s almost normal.

ROBBY: It’s supposed to be. It’s supposed to be normal. That’s what we’re called to do.

SID: But is it when you’re with the people you’re with?

ROBBY: You know, I believe it is. After we go through the training and then take them out they see it happen. There’s a reality because God wants to do it.

SID: Okay. I’m taking you on an airplane. You’re seated next to a woman. She is Jewish. She does not know the Messiah. Take it from there.

ROBBY: Yeah. She turns and looks at me, which I get this question a lot, “What do you do for a living?”

SID: I take a cup, a sip of water. Don’t say that.

ROBBY: She said, “What do you do for a living?” And so I looked at her and I told her, I said, “I have the greatest job in the whole world.” I said, “I get to travel the world and I get to equip people on knowing how to do healing by the power of Jesus and to see the power, you know, come, and drugs be healed, give you words of knowledge, give you understand for people’s lives, breaking demonic power and for people to experience the tangible presence of God.” And I said, “It’s the greatest job in the world.” And she looks at me and she goes, “Oh you’re one of those faith healers, are you?” And she goes, “Nah,” she goes, “I don’t believe in that.” She goes, “I’m sure you do some good for somebody somewhere,” and she goes, “but I don’t believe in any of that.” She goes, “I’m Jewish.” She goes, “I go to temple periodically, but I don’t believe in any of that stuff.” She goes, “But I’m sure you do some good.” I looked at her and I said, “Okay.” And so I said, “Well I’ll tell you what, are you in pain right now?” And she goes, “Excuse me?” And I said, “Are you in pain right now?” I said, “A matter of fact, in the middle part of your back, do you have a degenerating disc right here and you’re in pain right now?”

SID: How did you know that?

ROBBY: It just came to me and it’s trusting that when it comes. I’m just asking. All they could do is say, no, you’re wrong. Okay, move on, so what.

SID: Okay.

ROBBY: So I said it again. She goes, “No.” She goes, “I have a bulging disc there.” And I said, “All right, sometimes I get it wrong, but you’re in pain.” She said, “Yeah.” And I said, “And it’s right there.” She said, “Yeah.” And so I said, “Here’s the deal.” I said, “You let me pray for you.” Her name was Marcy. I said, “Marcy, you let me pray for you right now. Jesus is going to completely heal your back because he wants you to know how much he loves you and cares about you, and want a relationship with you.” I said, “So will you let me pray for your back?” And she goes, “What do I have to do?” And I said, “Well just find where the pain hits the hardest.” She said, “It hurts like that.” I said, “Okay. So whatever pain you feel there that’s 10.” She goes, “Try 13.” I said, “Well let’s stay with 10.” And so I said, “I’m about to pray Jesus is going to heal your back.” So I prayed, “Father, I thank you for your healing power and I thank you for Marcy. But the authority of Christ I command these bulging discs to stop bulging, pain to go, inflammation go down. Right now I command this back to be healed so Marcy will know how much Jesus loves her and cares about her, and wants a relationship with her.” And she, and I said, “Now Marcy, check your back.” She goes, “You don’t understand, this has been going on for 18 years.” And I said, “Would you just check.” And she arches her back, and she goes. And I said, “Well?” And she goes, “It’s a 3.” And I said, “So it went down from a 10 to a 3.” And she goes, “Yeah.” And I said, “Can I pray again?” And she goes, “Yeah.” And so I prayed again, said the exact same thing again, and it goes to a zero. And I said, “Give me a number.” And she goes, she checks it and she goes, “I think it’s a zero. Let me out.” And so I was sitting on the aisle. I move aside. She goes out and she puts her palms, standing straight, she reaches down and puts her palms flat on the floor and she turned around and looked at everybody sitting, I had been upgraded to first class and I was sitting beside her. And she turns around and she looks at everybody, and she goes, “This man just prayed for my back and Jesus just healed my back right now.”

SID: You know, she reminds me, my Jewish mother used to go around, she was the best sales person for me to pray for all of her unsaved Jewish friends, and she wasn’t even a believer. That’s what Marcy sounds like. But it gets even better. Marcy gets saved. People on the plane rededicate their life. Marcy is running up and down the aisle telling people, “He’ll pray for you, you’ll get healed.” But I need you to pray for our people right now. I want you to pray the presence of God come on them.

ROBBY: Yes.

SID: And they be healed and mobilized right now.

ROBBY: Yes. Father, I just thank you for your power. And by the authority of Christ, right now we just release that manifest presence of Jesus Christ, right now, just to go everyone viewing this, everyone right now just for the feel of the tingling, the heat, the reality of God’s presence. It’s there right now. In the name of Jesus be filled with that. And there are some that don’t know, you’re just like, I’m not quite sure about this, but you’re feeling it right. That’s Jesus inviting you to a relationship, just like he was inviting Marcy, and he’s saying, come and know me right now, by the authority of Christ. And some believers who are like, I’ve never been sure about this, but you’re feeling that manifest presence, you’re feeling the reality and he’s letting you know he’s here, he’s real and he wants to use you to do this. So right now we just declare that, we just release that by the authority of Christ to be filled with that right now in Jesus’ now, right now. As a matter of fact, a lady’s shoulder is being healed in Jesus’ name. Father, we thank you for that by your authority in Jesus’ name, be made whole by the authority of Christ in Jesus’ name.

SID: And if you have not made Jesus your Messiah and Lord, now is the acceptable time. Ask him to forgive of your sins and be your Lord, and live inside of you. Do it now out loud.

Our Guest Gary Whetstone

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Sid: Boy is my guest red hot for the Messiah his name is Gary Whetstone Senior Pastor at Victory Christian Fellowship in Wilmington Delaware. He found himself having a gigantic evangelistic crusade in Nairobi Kenya. Gets a knock at the door and they say “We don’t think you should do this crusade because there’s 1000 armed men dedicated to kill you to prove that Jesus didn’t rise from the dead the only way they would believe Jesus rose from the dead is if they kill you and you rise from the dead. Now we only have a couple of policeman to protect you it’s impossible they’ve already beaten up guards and they’ve wrecked your car and we recommend you not go. So Gary what did you say?

Gary: Well I just said to my front man the one that was coordinating the crusade I said “I want you to leave me alone for a few moments” and I went to prayer. And I said “God is this the way I die, do you want me to go?” And the Spirit of God spoke to me “I called you here to preach not run.” So I went back to the door and I said “I’m going prepare another car.” Now I had a team of American’s with me and I met with them and I said to them “Everyone of you are free to stay in the hotel I don’t know expect any of you to go with me because this is the reality.” Well half of them did stay back the other half went with me and we came in through the back of this huge field area down like a stream bed on a four wheel drive vehicle came up behind the platform and saw encircling the entire platform area literally 100’s and 100’s of men with rifles and with pistols standing there. The platform had been burned with fire they had poured gasoline on it. There was a goat head cut off and shoved on the top of one the microphone stands. They had made an animal sacrifice on our platform. There were no band, no choir, no churches, not Christians anywhere that I could see and there was beginning to grow 1000’s of people behind this people with guns. And my interpreter came with me in the car and I said “This is it we have come here to preach.”

Sid: You know Gary I mean you knew God’s voice I mean God’s saved your life from a mental institution but you’re human didn’t the thought cross your mind “Maybe I misunderstood God, maybe that was the devil telling me this.” I mean you’re in a critical situation.

Gary: You know Sid when you know that the God that is in you is greater than fear and any god that is called a god in this world. And you know how to defeat the fear you can cripple that thing and break its power so when you stand up you have literally ruling authority over that fear of death that grips so many people.

Sid: Wonderful you have ruling authority over that spirit of fear but what about the 1000 men with rifles that are ready to shoot you?

Gary: Well I guess it comes down to one or two things either I heard from God or I didn’t.

Sid: Obviously you did I’m talking to you right now (Laughing).

Gary: (Laughing) Yeah because when the interpreter and I got up on that platform and looked out I looked at my interpreter and said “Are you ready to go?” He looked at me and said “I don’t know.” I pray and out of my mouth came this decree “No man called by God will die by an assassins bullet tonight pull the trigger if you can.” So I look at my interpreter and he’s silent.

Sid: Are you sure this isn’t 29th chapter of the book of Acts? (Laughing)

Gary: I’m telling you this made a country change this confrontation with the enemy.

Sid: You present this challenge is that what stuck what happens?

Gary: Well my interpret it he said “No!” I said “Why?” He said “They are not that good of a shot if I stand here they’re going to shoot me too.”

Sid: (Laughing)

Gary: So we’re arguing on the platform in front of all of these people they speak Swahili most of them had no idea what I said. So I said to my interpreter “Get on that side of the platform and as soon as you interpret it jump and get on the ground and hide and I’ll stand here and see God and see what He does.” He looked at me and said “Are you serious?” I said “I’m serious enough to stand here I’ll do it again.” And he said “Alright.” So I walked to my side of the platform, he walked to his and I said it again. “Tonight no man called by God will die by an assassins bullet pull the trigger if you can.” And here comes the Swahili translation he jumps off the platform there is a shockwave in the atmosphere and you see these men breaking and crying and sobbing many of them probably 200 running to the front to me having dropped their arms back 10 yards, 20 yard, 50 yards. Other man gathering up their guns and running this way and running that way and literally they just came by the 100’s and 100’s and repented and received Jesus. That a rat moa in the morning found out what happened and this cult had been sacrificing children to their demon gods in the villages round in Kenya. And a rat moa made a decree that this cult that this cult that existing then was to be absolutely outlawed and any members are to be in prison. The members that did not repent and believe and receive Jesus were put in prison and today that cult is gone it does not exist. That God that lives inside of every believer Yeshua the Living Jesus His presence and power can change a nation.

Sid: What happened in Nairobi as a result of that campaign?

Gary: It literally blew the city open. Do you know today in the same field one of the ladies that we trained in our Bible school holds a prayer meeting once a month with over a quarter million people every once a month in prayer.

Sid: And just think you almost missed that meeting, you almost went home.

Gary: That’s right short of a word from God.

Sid: Now listen if there’s ever been a man that understands real fear, I mean absolutely paralyzing fear. If there’s ever been a man that has compassion for people with fear it’s got to be you. What kind of feed back because it’s a new book but what kind of feedback are you getting on your brand new book “Make Fear Bow” that’s a directive you’re not saying compromise you’re saying “Make Fear Bow.” You don’t bow you make fear bow.

Gary: The stories Sid have come from every walk of life. We have stories of people who afraid to work at a promotion because they were of a different race then of those that are believing that there was a predetermined prejudice in their workplace and they broke the fear of identifying with that prejudice. Because it was a fear and it wasn’t a reality and they got the promotion. We’ve had testimonies of woman who were afraid to conceive because of the pain and they read the scriptures and prayed the prayers and have normal children now. And just the joy of seeing the families free but we have a couple testimonies that are absolutely incredible that one individual and this is a response of this who in her vocation she was a real estate sales person. She was not making any money at all she read the book “Make Fear Bow” and there was a thought in the back of her mind that was sown there from a child that said to her “You will never amount to anything, you will not graduate from college” and she didn’t “You will not succeed in business” and she wasn’t “You will be nothing in your life.” And that’s how she grew up; then she got a hold of the word that literally gave her a perspective she does not need to live under the gripe of those words. You know when David went into combat with Goliath what Goliath used was a terror decree that by his gods he will take the flesh of David and see him just killed. And what did David do? He said “Oh the birds of the air will eat your flesh” so there’s a fear confrontation here. And this woman broke that thing and just last year her earnings, personal earnings exceeded $200,000.

Sid: Speaking about breakthroughs because fear that paralyzes you stops the vision of God from operating in your life.

Gary: Absolutely.

Sid: I mean you’ve got endorsements in this book from some really amazing people, incredible endorsements by Bishop T.D. Jakes, Marilyn Hickey, Morris Cerello, Billy Joe Daugherty, Charles Blair. I mean this is probably one of the most significant books for the time that we’re living in right now. But I’ll tell you what my burden is there are people that are listening to us right now Gary that have God calls on their life but because of various degrees of fear they have not been able to have their breakthrough. Will this give them their breakthrough if they apply the principals and receive the anointing in your book?

Gary: Sid the word of God cannot be broken fear is literally a lie of the enemy and the dream of God that is locked up in the heart of every one of our listeners is the purpose of God. By reading this book they will identify the origin of the fear, the influence of the fear, the forecast of the fear because the fear gives you a picture of your future and they will get the answer to how to make it bow. Their lives will activate that dream and bring it into reality and take them out of the torment of fear that’s gripped them.

Sid: You know on tomorrows broadcast I want you to cover how fear is really rooted in 4 major factors which you talk about in detail in your book.

Our Guest Dr. John Miller

Sid: This is your week to experience healing. I have on the telephone Dr. John Miller he’s a Chiropractor from Tampa, Florida he has spent the last 20 years studying communion. And he’s convinced and I’m convinced that because we haven’t had proper teaching on communion many are sick and even dead among us as scripture has to say. Now John on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about a strange symbol in the Old Covenant people that were bitten by snakes that were dying would look at a bronze serpent on a pole and stare at that pole and everyone that looked at it was healed. Would you continue?

John: Yes it’s because when Jesus took our sins in Him He became polluted with our sin. The scriptures say in 2nd Corinthians that He actually became sin He knew no sin but He became sin. And I began to talk about how the two elements of communion, one had fermentations or sin in it and the other didn’t. The bread has no fermentation because it represents the body of Christ His body never partook of sin it never committed a sin. So the bread of communion is without fermentation which represents sin, but the wine we know was fermented because Paul said they were coming to table and drinking so much that they were getting drunk. Now why did God allow the wine to be fermented? It’s because Leviticus 11:17 says “For the life of the flesh is in the blood and I give it to you for an atonement for your soul.” So the life that’s in your body is in your blood. Now James 2:26 says “For as the body without the spirit is dead so faith without works is dead.” That tells us that the Spirit is what gives life to your body. When Ananias and Sapphira lied to Peter about how much they paid for their property God took their body. There was nothing wrong physically with them but they dropped dead because their spirit was gone. Now sin is an issue of the spirit, if the life of the flesh is in the blood we know that the life of the flesh is the spirit, so the spirit is in the blood. When Jesus took our sin in Him it spoiled His blood with our sin. Now we can proved this with typology also; on the day of atonement the lamb was brought to the priest and the family’s head laid his hands on the head of the lamb imputing his sins and his family’s sins into that lamb. Then the priest took the lamb, took the blood and took some of the blood and put it on the mercy seat. Well that was tainted blood, the blood in that lamb now was tainted with that Hebrew family’s sin. So we have the picture of Jesus taking our sin in Him and spoiling His blood because the Spirit is in the blood. The Spirit gives life that’s why God did all blood covenants all life matters with blood covenants. So when we take communion it’s representing the fact that Jesus took our sin. I personally use wine, I use the Manischewitz wine…

Sid: But if somebody doesn’t use wine it doesn’t diminish the value does it?

John: Not as long as they understand what they’re doing. I’ve used on occasions water and crackers when I didn’t have the elements of communion because this is only an element to put you in memory of what Jesus did for you both spiritually and physically. So anything that we can use as a contact point will bring about the desired effect. I like the wine because the sweetness of the wine reminds me of the sweetness of redemption, but the bitterness of the alcohol reminds me of the bitterness He went through for me when He took my sin at Calvary.

Sid: You know one of the amazing things is that not only are you telling me people are being healed that start really doing communion daily and understanding as you put it in remembrance of what the Messiah did for us really understanding it. People are taking communion for others, tell me quickly about that Pastor’s wife and the healing she had when her husband took communion for her.

John: In 1st Corinthians 11:33 it says “When you come together to eat tarry yea one for another.” So that means we can take communion for someone else. Remember Job offered sacrifices daily for his children. Now I have a friend that’s a wonderful evangelist that started taking communion every day when I taught it in his church and he had done it for years. He would take communion for his wife his wife didn’t take communion daily; she ended up with cancer of the breast and they operated and took the lumps out. She got the lumps again and they operated, she got the lumps again and they scheduled her for surgery and he told his wife “I take communion for you every day, but I’m going to have to have you start taking communion for yourself.” And by the time she went to surgery the lumps were gone so there’s a case that she needed to do it. God first point this out to me when I was going to a church to teach on communion and the pastor there had gone completely blind in one eye and almost blind in the other eye. He’s a man that travels with Morris Cerullo for 6 or 8 years and had a tremendous healing ministry himself. And on the way to that church God brought out that verse in scripture “When you come together to eat tarry you one for another.” And God spoke to me and said “Nicky has the gift of healing when he is in that church he keeps everybody healed with that gift now when you have communion tonight I want you to put him in the middle and have the elders get around him and place their right hand on his head; when they eat the bread of communion he will be healed.” And so we did that and there wasn’t an instant manifestation that very second but within 2 minutes there was. He began to pray for people and all of the sudden he screamed and he came up on the stage and he picked me up in a bear hug and he picked up a song book and he covered the eye that he could see a little bit out of. And he said “Point to any line I can read it.” His eyes were totally healed in that communion service and that’s the first time that I ever saw in scripture that said “Tarry yea one for another.” I have a list of ministers that I take communion for on a daily basis.

Sid: Now let me ask you a question because Passover is coming up and it says in Exodus the 12th chapter a lamb for a house what about taking communion as a point of contact for the salvation of our entire house since under the Old Covenant type it was a lamb for an entire house?

John: Communion should be taken to do any spiritual warfare and what you’ve talking about actually is spiritual warfare. Everybody that’s not born again is of their father the devil; they have to be born again to get put into the family of God. Now satan is the god of this world. See we sent Missionaries over to Africa and we send them clothing and food and they get so many people saved and they’re in their life hut but we know that there’s princes of Persian, Princes of Greece, Princes of Tarsus their demonic heads over all of the nations and if you’re not born again then you belong to that side of the family that spiritual family. And so getting someone saved really would be a matter of binding and losing, binding those spirits that control those people and losing those people in the name of Jesus to receive the gospel of Jesus Christ. And there’s no better time to do your spiritual warfare than after you take communion.

Sid: Tell me about the race car driver that lost his peripheral vision.

John: I had a friend who was a very famous guy he was voted race car driver of the decades, 2 decades in a row his name was Jan Oppermann. He crashed on the Sacramento mile in a Sprint car in California and lost the peripheral visions in his right eye. And in my living room at 2:00 in the morning I explained the communion message and I had a large loaf of bread and we took a big chunk of it because I like to take more bread than normally they give because I like to meditate on different parts of the body and different things that need healing. And as we took communion at 2:00 in the morning in my living room his eye was completely head. Now people will say “How can you do that not in a church and nothing having a preacher?” Certain denominations you have to be an ordained minister you can’t even be a licensed minister of that denomination to give out communion. And in 1 Peter 2:9 says “But we are a chosen generation a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Now anyone that has been called out of darkness into His light in others words if you’ve been saved the Bible says that “You’re a chosen generation, you have been made a royal priesthood.” Now being a royal priesthood by God is greater credentials than being an ordained minister by any denomination.

Sid: Whoop we’re out of time.

Our Guest Brian Simmons

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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest bound himself in the library of Heaven and he saw books on every subject you can imagine, books on science and medicine, things like cancer cures that haven’t even occurred yet. And then he saw one book that was called John 22. There are only 21 books in the Gospel of John. Twenty-two had to do about the next great, greatest revival the world has ever seen. I want you to get some insight. I’ll be right back. So Dr. Brian Simmons, in the military, he gets radically saved. This was the Jesus movement. He was a druggie. Gets radically saved, runs back to the army barracks, and what happened, Brian?

BRIAN: I was so excited over what happened I just went through the barracks yelling out to all the men, “Come and listen to what happened to me. You’ve got to hear this.” And we found a room, in the barracks. We all got in there together, probably 50 men. “I’ve accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior in my heart. This is about love. This is about acceptance.” And as I shared with them about my conversion, 10 people that very day came to know Jesus. It was so amazing. It made me think from that moment on maybe I’m called, maybe I have a calling to do something for God. I went from LSD to G-O-D. I went from, like in one day’s time I went from being just really a very messed up, disturbed person to becoming one who loves Jesus, and he’s put up with me ever since.

SID: Now he gets mentored and discipled, and his wife is as crazy as him about Jesus, as crazy as they were in drugs and things like that before they knew him. And they go to Central America with three children to a tribe that they didn’t speak a word of their language. And it was a tough time for them, needless to say. And so in desperation, Brian had an all-night prayer meeting with

the craziest prayer you have ever heard. What was it?

BRIAN: Desperation drives you to desperate measures. And we had been in the jungle for two years. It was difficult. We had to break down their language through a linguistic analysis. The people were very hard. They were very stubborn. They stole from us. They virtually closed their ears to the message we brought. I cried out that night, middle of the night, and here’s the crazy prayer. I said, “Lord, if you don’t come and move in this village, move in my heart and move in the hearts of these tribal people that have never heard, understood the Gospel, if you don’t move with power, I’m going to go back and tell every supporter, every prayer partner, every church we’ve ministered in that you weren’t big enough to tackle the Pia Kuna people and to bring them to know you through Jesus Christ, through the Holy Spirit.”

SID: Did you mean that?

BRIAN: I meant it with all my heart.

SID: That is a desperate prayer. Did God answer?

BRIAN: Did he ever. That morning, the air around our village was supernaturally energized. I can’t describe it other than it was just, you felt the presence, like God had stepped down, like a steel punch of God had come through the atmosphere into our village. And here’s what happened. I broke. My heart broke open. So I went to every hut in our village, over 500 people in our tribal village, and I went to every hut, started early in the morning, and I asked them to forgive me. I repented and I said, “I have not been the messenger of Jesus that I should have been to you. Would you forgive me? I’ve not loved you the way Jesus loves you. Would you forgive me and would you come tonight and let me give you the living message of truth.” I couldn’t even get done asking them to forgive me. They would fall down on the ground. The power of God would land on them and they had never experienced this before, and I had never seen anything like this before, in the mid-80’s. And there they were trembling on the ground shaking like a leaf in the wind. The power of the Holy Spirit had fallen on them and they were weeping, and they were crying, and they had never even believed in Jesus yet. They were experiencing the power of God.

SID: He then hears an audible voice. It was God. And what did God say?

BRIAN: It was five in the morning. I was, as I usually do every morning, I get up early, I seek the Lord, I pray, and there I am. I no sooner began to pray that he spoke audibly. It was not inside, it was not just a whisper in my ear. It was a sound that was all around me. And he says, “I’m calling you back to North America. I’m going to send revival to the nations and you’re goingto be a part of it.”

SID: He came back to the United States, he founded a church and then one day the wall melted.

BRIAN: I was in my room praying and actually what I was doing, was I was asking the Lord to help me as a pastor to show His love and to be the servant that He wanted me to be in our church. And the wall in front of me, five feet away from me, melted. It just, it literally melted. And walking through the wall was this light so intense and so bright it was a ball of light. It was so bright I’m sure there was the one I love was inside of that light. But I couldn’t focus my eyes on it. It was so bright, all I could do was hide my face and I still felt the light piercing through me. And I screamed and I said, “Lord help me. Give me grace to endure this.” And for it seemed like maybe 20 minutes that light just burned through my life. It burned up some things that needed to be burned up. It exposed some things that needed to be exposed and from that encounter, I became a different person. But I actually got to the point where I had to say, “Lord, you’re going to have to lift this from me. I’m going to die. You know, my wife will come home later and there will be dust and ashes on the floor, and she’ll sweep it up not realizing it’s me.” I just felt like I was going to be consumed in this fire.

SID: So there would be less of you and more of God. Okay. When that happened—

BRIAN: A lot less.

SID: Listen to this. When that happened, he then went out because he felt, he was reminded he had to buy some milk. So you go to the store and what happens?

BRIAN: I remembered that it was my duty to get some milk for the family. I went to the grocery store.

SID: It was very important after that inspiration, you understand.

BRIAN: So I make my way through the store and I no sooner come through the door and about a 10, 12-foot radius around me, any person that I passed fell over. They just fell over, right out. And I thought, that’s interesting. How could so many people have a heart attack at one time? I really didn’t know what it was. And half way back to the dairy counter, the guy with the green vest looks down the aisle and sees what’s happening, bodies out on the floor, and he started to panic. I realized I know what this is. This is the presence. It’s not me. It’s the presence of the one who came to my room just a few minutes. He is clinging to me. The presence was on me for that day.

SID: The children. When you went back to the church, what happened to them?

BRIAN: Well I gave up on the milk and remembered that I had an appointment to speak in chapel. We had a wonderful school, beautiful kids, little kids in our school, the first six grades, and I was going to be the chapel speaker that day, and I just remembered that. So I went in the office and my staff froze, like I hit the pause button on the remote control. They just froze staring at me, and for minutes. And finally, Jeff, one of my staff members said, “Pastor Brian, what happened to you?” And I said, “I’ll tell you later. I’ve got to go speak in chapel.” Made my way through the hall, went into the chapel. As soon as I came into the auditorium, every one of those children, probably 50 to 60 kids, every one of them fell down. The power of the Lord came into that chapel. They all ended up on the ground and it was like a repeat of what I saw in the jungle. They were shaking and crying, and stumbling.

SID: They had never seen anything like this.

BRIAN: These are little, these are children. and they’re not of course going to make this up or just mimic somebody else. They were under God’s power. Some saw angels. They told us later, some were being taken up into heavenly visions. And I just sat there. I didn’t know what to do. What do you do, something like that?

SID: You get out of the way is what you do.

BRIAN: That’s exactly what I did.

SID: God has given him a gift where it’s almost like he sees, Brian sees a television screen and knows what’s going to happen. When we come back, I want to find out when he saw this television screen of a baby that was dead coming back to life. Be right back.

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Our Guest Benny Hinn

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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I love it. When I was a brand new Jewish believer a little over 40 years ago, I had the privilege of meeting a woman by the name of Kathryn Kuhlman. I saw miracles and precise words of knowledge that in all candor I haven’t seen to that degree since. But there was a young man just recently saved. And this young man went to the meeting of Kathryn Kuhlman, and he saw something in her he had never seen before. He saw such intimacy with God, with the Holy Spirit. He wanted it desperately, and he got it. His name is Benny Hinn and he says that he has learned secrets that everyone can have that same relationship with the Spirit of the Living God that Miss Kathryn Kuhlman had. You know, what I found out is that it’s almost like, Benny, it’s almost like the devil has some sort of sense that God has a call on someone’s life and tries to sabotage them before they even get started. For instance, I never knew this, but you had a stuttering problem, and not only that, your teachers and your father said that you were a hopeless case by age [?]. But, now you were raised in a Greek Orthodox family, born in Israel. Boy, you’re provoking me to jealousy, not the stuttering but born in Israel. And at 11, you know nothing about, really, Jesus beyond religion. But you had a visitation. What happened?

PASTOR BENNY: You know, in the eastern culture to have a daughter first is a shame. So my mother had married into a very difficult family. My dad’s family were not very nice people. They’re much nicer today, but anyway. And they persecuted my mom for having a girl first. She had just married my daddy and my sister Rose was born, and shame, shame, shame on my mom. So she prayed. She had Greek, you know, Greek Orthodox woman, prayed to the Lord. Now she wasn’t saved and she said, “Lord,” she said, “If you give me a son I will give him back, I will give him back to you.” Just like Hannah. The Lord heard her, surprisingly. And so when I was just a little boy, I keep saying, 11, my mom says I was younger, but anyway, it doesn’t matter. I saw the Lord come to me. I’ll never forget that. And when He looked at me with an amazing heavenly smile, I don’t know how else to describe the smile except pure love. But when I woke up I could not move. I was just frozen. Every part of me was overpowered by this heavenly electricity.

SID: Now remember, he’s about 11 years of age. He can’t put any paradigm on what has occurred.

PASTOR BENNY: Exactly.

SID: But he felt something. He felt this electricity. And then he went to a meeting, I believe it was in high school, and he felt that same presence at the meeting, and he got saved. And you would have thought everything would be wonderful after that. But he gets home and he’s so in love with Jesus, and his parents didn’t like it. In fact, your father, what did he say to you?

PASTOR BENNY: My father sent me to a psychiatrist.

SID: I didn’t know that.

PASTOR BENNY: Oh no, he did. I still remember they plugged my head with all kinds of plugs. They thought something was wrong with me. So a few years after when we had immigrated to Canada — now remember this happened, when I saw the Lord, happened in [unintelligible]. But then in ’68, we immigrated to Canada. In Canada, I heard about the Lord for the first time. How sad I had to go to Canada to learn about Jesus. Anyway—

SID: You would think in Israel, I suppose.

PASTOR BENNY: In Israel, I thought that the Lord was Catholic. But anyway, so you go to Canada, where I discovered that the Lord was really alive. And in high school when I got saved, February 14, 1972, at 7:50 in the morning, to be exact, I felt that same electric current go through me, and then I connected it everything together. And the Lord just became very real to me in a very different way.

SID: But God used the persecution he went through. He, you know, he’s kind of withdrawn because of his stutter. His father can’t stand him because of his fanatic belief in Jesus. So he spent most of his time in his room reading the Bible, thousands of hours. He hears about Miss Kuhlman. He decides to take a bus ride to Pittsburgh. You’re standing, there’s where I want to take you, you’re standing outside in a line.

PASTOR BENNY: I was wrapped up like an Eskimo, it was so cold, and I began to tremble.

SID: It was so cold.

PASTOR BENNY: Well no, no, no. I was not cold. I was all wrapped up. I just began to tremble. I thought, at first, I was cold. But it was not a cold feeling, you know, at all. And we ran in to get a seat and then as I sat there with my coat off, hat off, gloves off, all that, I’m still trembling, and I trembled more inside than outside.

SID: It was the Spirit of God that was causing it.

PASTOR BENNY: Well I did not know that until I sat down. Yeah, I mean, because this was so new to me. When she came on the platform, it’s very hard to describe it to someone who had not been to Miss Kuhlman’s meetings, there was such a substance of the Lord, the only way I can say it, where you felt, strongly felt His person, not just the atmosphere, but His person. And as she came on, I was so taken by it, and so amazed and awed, I couldn’t even move, hardly breathe, because the overwhelming presence of the person of Jesus was there. And now I’m just weeping. I mean, how can you not weep at that amazing presence. And I felt, I had my arms up because they were singing, and I did not even know the song, “How Great Thou Art.” So I’m trying to sing it and I feel a breeze. So I looked around, I thought something over at the window. This was December. It was cold out there. No windows were open. But I felt this breeze go by, very gentle breeze. And at that point, I’ll never forget, I said, “Dear Jesus.” And that was the first time I think I ever called him Dear Jesus. I said, “Dear Jesus, have mercy on me.” I heard his voice so clear, and now it explains much of what’s happened to me in the last 40 years. He said, “My mercy is abundant on you.” And then I felt this overpowering love just go through me, and I felt a tingle go with it.

SID: I’ll tell you what, hold that thought. When we come back, I want to tell you how that same presence that was on Miss Kuhlman apprehended Benny, and even better, how it’s going to apprehend you. We’ll be right back.

Our Guest Dr. James Maloney

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Sid: Now in addition to myself and my guest Dr. James Maloney, Professor at Christ for the Nations who travels the nations because he has the most amazing prophetic and miracle ministry. But it’s the greatest miracle is that this man survived that he didn’t end up in a penitentiary or mentally insane or dead because just a baby he was neglected because his mother didn’t have the money to support him. And his mother’s husband wasn’t his father came back from penitentiary and just would beat him and smash and step on his face and beat him against the wall. Finally fortunately he was adopted by a family that loved him. But as a teenager he rebelled and almost understandable with a background like that. And finally 14 years of age 1970 I guess Jim I don’t know what was going on in your life but you must have been a pretty desperate youngster.

James: Yes Sid I was desperate a lot like many teenagers my adoptive parents were wonderful people, but they were hard working people they were gone an awful lot and so I had a lot of woundings because of the early years. And I couldn’t figure out why my biological mom didn’t love me enough to keep me and you know various questions that many people have.

Sid: Sure.

James: And so I just was very desperate by the time I’d turned 14 years of age I was rejected, wounded even suicidal I didn’t want to live anymore there was a lot of confusion a fear. There was a lot of activity I see now, I didn’t know back then, but in the area where I grew up in Southern California there was a lot of demonic activity and occult operations because it was an area that was strong in spiritism and this mysticism so that didn’t help me either. So when I was 14 it was December of 1970 I was very very desperate and I needed to know the reality of God and I needed to know I was loved for who I was, and I needed the acceptance. And even though my adoptive parents as I said Sid gave me as much as they could they were just gone a lot and hard working people and so we were neglected and I have some what the time we wanted to spend more with them and I have a sister who is younger who is about 3 years of age and so we were just very very desperate and so I cried out. It was December 31st and I just cried out to God I said “God if You’re real You’re just going to have to reveal yourself to me because I don’t think I can live another day.” And I was very desperate and the Lord knew that if He did not answer my cry for acceptance I wouldn’t be here today and He wonderfully answered that.

Sid: Tell me how He answered that.

James: Well you know if someone usually, and I’ve traveled all over the world Sid and I’ve shared this in conferences and Full Gospel Businessman’s Meetings and regional conventions of this and that and so it’s just touched 1000’s of people. And it’s very supernatural because somehow I wept myself to sleep it was December 31, 1970 as I shared with you. January 1st when I was awakened it was very early in the morning and sun had not yet come up and I was laying in bed and I woke up and all of a sudden I felt that someone was standing in my room. I know that it’s kind of hard to describe and someone was standing there in my room and I begin to shake. I wasn’t fearful because whoever was standing in my room there was a sense of peace and a sense of warmth and acceptance. My eyes were really tightly closed because I didn’t want to look to see who it was, but then I got like most young people I go very curious and so I opened up one eye and I just sort of peaked over to the left and I lifted my head up off of the pillow a foot or so and I looked down on the floor to the left side of my bed and I noticed that there was like this glow this light that began to spread. And wherever this light begin to spread Sid it just covered the area where it was you couldn’t see the carpet, you couldn’t see the wall as it began to rise up right in front of me. This light, this glory I can’t describe it correctly I mean I’ve shared this many many times and I cannot fully articulate the light and the glory of the Lord. But I knew that whoever was in that light the thought came to me that it was a person of royalty. And so what I did was I figured you know if it’s a person of royalty He deserves that I get out and kneel in front of Him. And so that’s what I did I got out of the bed and I knelt in front of this light, I didn’t see anyone at that time in the light. And as I just looked into that light it was kind of interesting because I felt compelled to just reach out and so I reached out my hands towards that light and that light penetrated my hands and literally went into that light. I just have to stop and say this I mean every time I share this I just get somewhat choked up because you know it was an experience that changed my life. But as I reached out into that light I always say this when I share this, that if you know that if Krishna would have been in that light I would have worshipped Krishna, if Buddha had been in that light I would have worshipped Buddha. But it wasn’t Buddha or Krishna because when I put my hands on into that light I looked down right in front of me I looked between my arms and there were two hands that came out towards me. And I looked into those hands and I knew immediately that they were the hands of Jesus. Jesus spoke to me and He said “I heard your cry for acceptance and I’ve heard your cry for reality.” And He said something Sid that just forever changed my life He said “I love you the way that you are.” And that touched me powerfully because I had spent a lifetime striving for love and acceptance. That wounding of rejection the fear, the torment the first 2½ years of my life many times because of their lifestyle my natural mother and her husband they would take me and throw me in the closet and they would just shut the door and lock it and sometimes I would stay there a whole day even 2 days at a time. And you know I don’t’ even remember the beatings but I do remember being in that closet and sense of isolation and that engulfing of darkness that just penetrated my soul and I would just sit in that closet just weeping and crying and wanting that acceptance why isn’t someone here to open up the door. And so there was a tremendous fear of rejection. And so when Jesus spoke that to me and said “I love you just the way that you are” I’ve got a purpose is what He was saying. I was gloriously touched in my inner man and…

Sid: Would you do something right now there’s someone listening right now that needs to hear that and the truth is that God loves them as much as He loves you.

James: Oh He does Sid.

Sid: Now will you speak on behalf of the Lord and say that to someone listening right now?

James: I definitely will share that to the people that are listening to this program. I just want you to open your heart because Jesus is one that shows no respecter of persons He loves you as much as He loves me and He wants to minister to you as He touched me. And I believe that one of the reasons why God gave me this encounter was to have a faith, a childlike faith, to reach out to people that are hurt, wounded and bruised. I know somebody that are listening your laboring under tremendous torment and fear. Maybe you’ve been abused physically, even sexually a sensing of neglect, Jesus is our great physician. The Bible says that He heals the brokenhearted He binds up the wounds and so I just want you to reach out just as Jesus answered my cry for acceptance you open up your heart to Him His ear the Bible says is open to your cry. And I’m going to pray for you right now in the mighty name of Jesus. Lord You’re the great therapist, You’re the great healer, You’re the one that restores people’s souls. As these precious people are listening to this program I ask as they’re opening their heart now and crying out to You for acceptance that You would hear their cry and that the anointed of the Holy Spirit would break every yoke of bondage that every fear, every sense of torment and rejection would be eradicated and that Your healing balm would be applied within their hearts, their souls. And Lord You see the tears, You know their hearts cry, You know what they’ve gone through let them hear as I’ve heard that their life has purpose and that Lord You love them just the way that they are You will receive them just the way that they are in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen and amen. Praise God.

Sid: I’ll tell you what the presence of God.

James: Oh, I feel it.

Sid: Can you feel that Jim?

James: I sense the presence of God.

Sid: It’s like the best way that I can describe it is that the Lord who reached out and touched Jim’s hands is reaching out right now and He’s putting His arms around you.

James: That’s right.

Sid: And He is saying “I’ve heard your prayers and I want you to know you are accepted by Me, I love you just the way you are.” And you know Jim I’m overwhelmed when I take a look at just a smidgen of how God has used you with the miraculous, but this is absolutely ridiculous in my notes it says in California that there was a woman by the name of Mary that had a pace maker and you prayed for her and you tell me what happened.

James: Well Mary is a precious lady and she was in one of our meetings and she was scheduled for heart surgery and one of the ways that the Lord uses me Sid is that sometimes He’ll give me a word of knowledge that simply means that He’ll reveal to me a person’s condition because it’s His way of Him wanting them to know that He’s there in the night and wants to heal them.

Sid: In other words you’ll know what’s wrong with them before they tell you.

James: Many times that’s correct. Of course the Holy Spirit brings it to me and I can’t just make them up but as He brings them to me and this is what happened to this lady I saw it in her. There was probably about 400 people in the service…

Sid: You know a fellow by the name of Branham used to do that.

James: Yeah Branham, William Branham was very prolific in word of knowledge very awesome in the late 40’s and early 50’s and he was used that way. So I just pointed to her and I said “Your scheduled for open heart surgery is that correct?” You know when you give a word like that Sid you’re either right or wrong. (Laughing)

Sid: Yes.

James: She said “Yes” and…

Sid: Oh I hate to do this hold that thought…

Sid Roth

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Sid: Well this is Purim week and I’ve been talking about Purim, and I’m going to speak on it all this week. At Purim time we’re instructed to read the megillah, which is the scroll of Esther and we read every word in the synagogue. I believe the book of Esther is not an end time book to the church, I believe the book of Esther is thee end time book to the church. Keep listening you’ll understand why.

One of the traits, one of the things you think about when you think about Purim is you think about joy. When I think about joy I think of the words from the book of Romans “That the kingdom of God…” Here let me read this to you, it’s Romans 14:17:

For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

You see at Purim we Jewish people we have a lot of joy, but unless we know the Messiah we don’t have the kind of joy in the Holy Spirit that the word of God is speaking about here in Romans chapter 14 verse 17.

For the kingdom of God is not…

Having the best food, the best drink, yeah you can have joy from wine but there is a joy a supernatural joy in God’s kingdom. See the problem is many people that are in God’s kingdom have one foot in God’s kingdom, and one foot in the world. We’re coming to a time in history where the devil has more demons per square inch released for anyone that is playing one foot in the world and one foot in the Lord. See there is a season, there is a time God gives people a period of grace but that time is over, that time of playing games is over because the stakes are so high we’re so close to the return of the Messiah. I mean you’ve got to choose who’s your king. Is self on your throne, or is Jesus on your throne?

Let me tell you one of the benefits of being in His kingdom, and it’s the greatest benefit in the world. You can be happy and you can have joy, you hit the lottery and win a million dollars you’re going to be real happy; you’re going to have money to buy things the rest of your life, but what good is that money if you develop a tumor of the brain that’s inoperable and cancerous? You’re dying and there’s nothing medical science can do for you. What’s going to happen if you develop AIDs? What’s going to happen if, God forbid, your wife leaves you for another man, or your husband leaves you for another woman? What’s going to happen if your kids are into drugs, they’re out on the streets selling their body and stealing? They are the children you gave your life for.

You see the most important things money can’t buy and we’re coming into a time in history where it just plain doesn’t matter because you can have all the money in the world and you’re not going to buy the most important things in life.

I mean with the biological warfare that we see all the time as far as potential terrorism could be and the cells that are within the United States. I mean, it says in the Bible:

That the age will be an age of fear in the last days. Men’s hearts failing them for what they see.

That’s what we’re seeing right now. This is the time to put both feet into God’s kingdom and then you have the King running interference for you. I like to be in God’s kingdom, I like God running interference for me. For the kingdom of God, and that’s the kingdom that I’m in is not eating and drinking the nice things of life, not that you can’t have nice things, but that not God’s kingdom. God’s kingdom is something that nice things can’t buy, it’s righteousness. It means total forgiveness of all of your sins if you have repented and believe in the blood of Yeshua, the blood of Jesus washing away your sins. It means when God looks at you He doesn’t see you He sees His Son Jesus, and you are the righteousness of God in Messiah Jesus. It means no condemnation, nothing separating you from God’s love that means being a clear vessel. It’s not something you work up; yes it’s a free will decision to will to follow God but it’s pure grace. That’s why we’re so grateful to our King.

So the kingdom of God is first of all, no condemnation, walking in righteousness, walking in purity, walking total forgiveness better than forgiveness, your sins are remitted. God remembers them no more. The kingdom of God is walking in peace. The Hebrew word for peace is shalom, which means completeness, completeness in your spirit, completeness in your soul, and completeness in your body. I like walking in shalom.

The kingdom of God is joy in the Holy Spirit, and that’s what I saw at this great Purim celebration that we had in Kiev at the world’s largest Messianic Jewish congregation that I like to call a One New Man congregation.

You see at Purim we are commanded by… in the rabbinical books we’re told we have to get drunk to the point to where we don’t know the difference between Mordechai or Haman.

So when I was conducting this Purim service several years ago in Kiev, Ukraine, I made a little joke, a toast. I had an imaginary wine glass, and I poured the wine . You just picture me pouring that wine in that glass. Then I took the glass and I said the Hebrew toast. You know what the Hebrew toast is? L’chaim! That means to life. Then I would take a drink and I would pretend like I was getting a little drunk. But guess what, all of a sudden I wasn’t pretending, the people weren’t pretending, the Spirit of God moved on us just like it did in Pentecost. Do you know what happened at Pentecost, the Hebrew word is Shavuot, the outpouring of God’s Spirit? The people acted like they were drunk but it was 9:00 in the morning, they didn’t have any alcoholic beverages, but yet their actions were as if they were intoxicated. I mean people were falling out of their chairs. They were so drunk and so happy, and let me tell you these people in Ukraine have nothing except God, and they trust God. They have faith in God, and they walk in righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. I say although they have nothing materially, they’re the wealthiest people in the world. Oh did we have a service.

You see another thing at this One New Man congregation that I’ve been talking about so much is the music. The music pleases God, and they use an ancient form of music it’s a Chasidic type of music, it’s called Lubavitcher music, Klezmer if you’ve ever heard that. You know I can’t describe it I just want you to hear some of their music right now.

Music excerpt – Mashiach

I don’t about you but I get happy over that, but even at home we get happy over that. You know when we did that several hundred people were instantly healed. I mean instantly several hundred people just stood up and they were healed of everything imaginable. There’s something about this supernatural joy, and I’m so joyful.