Sid: I have on the telephone Lance Lambert who has lived in Israel since 1973, and I see Lance as one of my favorite prophetic teachers. I got a hold of some of his teaching called Middle East Update, and just the most amazing things. On the last couple of days we have been talking about the misjudgment of Great Britain and the repercussion that occurred in reference to them coming against the Jew in Israel. They literally went from leading the world to being on the bottom of the pack. Lance and I both believer according to the word of God, he quoted from Joel 3 that said “In the last days God will judge nations based on one major sin, and that is” and says specifically “dividing up the land.” There could be people listening to us right now, but that’s Old Covenant, of course you have to understand what is called the Old Covenant, or the Jewish Scriptures was the ONLY Bible the first church had. The New Covenant hadn’t been put into a nice book like we have it today. What did Jesus have to say about this? Well He said the same thing in the 25th chapter of Matthew Jesus said “That nations would either be goat nations or sheep nations based on one sin” and it says “as you have done unto the least of these My brethren.” In the Greek the brethren means “from the womb” in other words, physical brethren. Jesus hadn’t died and rose from the dead, He wasn’t talking about believers He was talking about physical Jews. “…as you have done unto the least of the physical Jews, you have done unto Me.” That’s what’s going to make the difference between a goat nation or a sheep nation. Again, a goat nation has a mind of its own against God, and a sheep nation follows the shepherd. Now Lance I would you to paint me a picture if the United States continues on its Haman course, and that’s the word I have to use, and continues to force Israel to give up more and more land because they want the land. Pain me a picture of what might happen shortly to the United States of America.
Lance: Well I can only say Sid that when the Lord spoke to me in the Philippines I was at the International Intercessors Leaders Conference there. I had a very troubled night, and I knew the Lord was going to say something. Finally I uttered a word but in it the Lord said “I have risen with fury. Don’t ask me now to stop because I’m going to judge nation after nation because of what they are doing to Israel.” Then the Lord said “I will judge them by fire, by flood, by eruptions, by earthquakes,” then He went on to say “I will touch them where it hurts the most, I will destroy their economies.” Now my feeling is, that’s only part of what that prophecy was, my feeling Sid is that things cannot go on like they are with these hurricanes, and floods, and fires. We used to think of the fire recently in California as national disaster, now it’s almost taken place on the back burner because of things like Katrina, and things like Rita and so on. Now if that’s just a picture of what’s going to happen I don’t think economically things can get any better because of the amount of money that’s going to have to flow out trying to restore and rebuild like everything else. I feel that once the Lord becomes an enemy of a nation it’s the end.
Sid: I want you talk just a little bit to those that love God, are born again Christians, but feel that the church gets all the blessings that were promised to Israel and the Jewish people, and Israel and the Jewish people get all the curses under the New Covenant. What would you say to them?
Lance: I think it’s nonsense. I think you cannot take the blessings for one and leave the curses to the other. The thing is that the blessings and the curses belong to both. I mean if the church misbehaves, and she is, I mean when I know of one evangelical leader in the states recently saying “That God is torturer, if He really had His son crucified for our sins then He’s a torturer.” Then there’s another one in Britain just recently said, we’re talking about evangelicals, said “If Jesus died for the punishment of our sins, then God is a child abuser.” I think this is absolutely shocking, this can only bring judgment upon those churches, assemblies, or whatever who say such things. The word of God is very clear, of course they probably look upon the Old Testament as inferior, but Isaiah 53 says “That it pleased God to bruise Him.” Now in the Hebrew that word bruise is actually crush or shatter Him. That’s how much God loved you and me Sid, and how much Jesus loved us that He was prepared to die in our place.
Sid: You know Lance you mentioned this on an earlier broadcast, but I feel like I have to bring this out again. In Psalm 105 is pretty much a summary of God’s position on who should be in the land of Israel. It talks about His covenant with the Jewish people and it describes it in 3 different fashions. It uses the word: forever, then it uses the word everlasting, and then it says a thousand generations. Now I’ve always been told if God says something 2 times you better pay attention. This is 3 times in one Psalm that He is giving the land forever, everlasting, a thousand generations to the physical Jewish people. I mean how can anyone anywhere say “That’s not what God meant.”
Lance: Well a thousand generations, if we take the Jewish reckoning of 40 years it’s 40, 000 years, it’s ridiculous. It just means God is using human language to say that something is eternal and everlasting. [Laughing] Then there’s something else too, people are always coming to me and saying “Yes but the children of Ishmael are also the children of Abraham, the seed of Abraham,” but if God made a pact with Ishmael that he had absolutely kept precisely to this very day they would have become great nations, they would have become wealthy, and many other things. It’s not a mistake that they have so much of the oil and with it the wealth of the world in their hands. It’s God keeping a covenant that He made with Ishmael. Now the interesting thing is that when God made this covenant with the land it was through Abraham’s seed through Isaac not Ishmael, and through Jacob and not Esau. That’s what comes out of that Psalm 105, He says He confirmed it to Isaac, and confirmed it to Jacob. So that put’s very clearly that this is a pact that God made with our forefathers and which we feel thousands of years ago, and therefore think of it as antique. God doesn’t think of it as antique, as far as God is concerned He made it just now. So any president of the United… it sounds very mean of me to put it this way, but it doesn’t matter if he’s a believer and he reads his Bible, but if he thinks that he can contradict God almighty in a pact that He has made, he is on a collision course and the nation he leads is on a collision course with God.
Sid: Use your prophetic sanctified imagination right now, if we do not back down from a two-state solution paint me a picture of what could shortly happen to the United States of America.
Lance: Well I’m pretty sure that if the disasters that have overtaken her with increasing… just following one after the other. I think it’s going to get worse and worse till it’s catastrophic. You know it’s very interesting we all think of poor old Pharaoh and God hardening his heart, we think of him as an utterly evil man, he was highly educated, highly sophisticated man leading one of the superpowers of the day. He couldn’t let the Jews go because there were a million at least of slaves…
Sid: It’s almost the vice that the United States of America is, “We can’t support Israel and a one-state solution because we need the oil.”
Lance: Well yes and it’s not just the oil it’s just the whole approval of the world, and the money of the world as well. I mean it’s a big thing. Your State Department see’s it purely only from a human point of view they obviously don’t see it in Biblical terms.
Sid: Lance we’re out of time…