01 Jan 10 Sid Roth welcomes Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov

On It’s Supernatural: Scientists discover the Hebrew language that Jesus spoke has the power to actually move mountains.

SID: Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. I mean, this is the norm. I am so excited about this show, because for the first time, we’re finding out that science, true science, that’s dealing with true facts, are beginning to figure out that the words that the famous Jewish rabbi – the King of the Jews, Yeshua – said, are true. He said you could speak to a mountain,

and if you would believe, that mountain would be obliterated. We’re now finding out that there is a realm of science called quantum mechanics, quantum physics, that examines the unseen world.

And literally, the energy behind the voice causes matter to rearrange and change. And here’s what it’s done for me. When I understand the science behind it, my faith in the miraculous just skyrockets. My guests, Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov. Jody, what about you? When you  understood for the first time this scientific law of quantum mechanics, what did it do for your faith?

JODY: It just skyrocketed my faith, because I could believe then that the word of God is real and true. And when God spoke this world into existence, Sid, we read in Genesis chapter 1 that He spoke the word and the world came into existence. And so everything begins with a spoken word, with sound, with frequencies, and science is backing that up now with quantum mechanics and quantum physics.

SID: But before we get to that, Alyosha, what is a nice Jewish Russian concert pianist doing in a church? Why did you go to a church?

ALYOSHA: You’re talking way back then when I grew up in the city of Kiev. And actually I grew up as an atheist. I didn’t know anything about my background as being Jewish. The only reason I knew I was Jewish is somebody else would remind me about it. I guess I look like one.

But we didn’t practice any of the traditions, didn’t know anything. But in the late ‘70’s, the door was opened from communist Russia for the Jews to go out to Israel and to other countries. And so our family also wanted to leave, because there was no future for me and my sister to pursue our careers and our lives. Still, it was very, very difficult. Many people were denied visas, many people were refused for no reason, and their lives just got stuck with that. And so, I felt like I needed a supernatural intervention into my life, because I did not know whether they would let me go or not. And I thought “Well, I’d like to pray to God.” I didn’t know if God existed, nobody really taught me about God. But there was a church there that I knew, it was a Greek Orthodox church, and I knew absolutely nothing about that religion. I just wanted to go and pray.

SID: Sure.

ALYOSHA: So I walk into that church, and there were different pictures, and I got confused in the beginning. “Which one is God here? I thought God is one.” But there was a picture of Jesus there, and I just felt comfortable calling Him God. Don’t know why. So I said “Jesus, if you are the true and living God, make it possible for us to leave.” And guess what? About a week or two passed, and we received permission to immigrate.

SID: So this great miracle happened, but he got to the United States, and he’s pursuing his career as a concert pianist. You come from how many generations of musicians?

ALYOSHA: Well at least 3, maybe more.

SID: And you would play the piano. Up to how many hours a day would you practice?

ALYOSHA: When I got to my teen years, I had to practice 4 or 5 hours a day.

SID: So I would have to think your god was really your music.

ALYOSHA: It was, yes.

SID: Ok, so he gets to the States, he quickly forgets that this Jesus answered his prayer, but he had an encounter one night in his bedroom with the supernatural. What happened?

ALYOSHA: My sister became a believer first, and she reminded me about Jesus.  I remember that I prayed to Him, but I wasn’t sure. This was one encounter. And see, by the way, people ask me “Where did you hear about God in the first place?” And I grew up with atheism, but I tell them the first people that taught me about God were atheists.

SID: How could they teach you about God?

ALYOSHA: They have to explain to you who doesn’t exist, and so…

SID: So that’s how you knew. He doesn’t exist.

ALYOSHA: Yeah. Why put so much effort to prove that God doesn’t exist, if He doesn’t even exist? It doesn’t make sense to me.

SID: Good point.

ALYOSHA: But that night, when my sister started to share about Jesus, and I said “Is it right for Jewish people to believe in Jesus?” So I was in my room, and I asked the Lord, if He was real, if Jesus was real, to give me some sign. I know now that the Bible says that a Jew will ask for a sign. That’s what I did. And suddenly, a bright light filled the room, just for a few moments, but I knew it had no place it could’ve come from…

SID: Was it a street lamp, or…?

ALYOSHA: No, and it was early morning, it was totally cloudy. There was not even a place for the sun to go through. But the room just illuminated, and I knew, I got my sign.

SID: And shortly thereafter, he’s still resisting, but someone says “Do you want to believe Jesus is your Messiah and Lord?” And even though he wasn’t ready yet, out of his mouth came…

ALYOSHA: I was asked “Do you want to accept Jesus as your Messiah?” And I was going to say no, instead came out yes, to my surprise

SID: Wait till you hear about the supernatural music now that he’s playing, with a supernatural language. Don’t go away.

23 Dec 09 Sid Roth welcomes Linda Josef

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Linda Josef, and we’re talking about the best miracles of the people I’ve interviewed in over 30 years of investigative reporting of miracles. And Linda, an example of just the most tenacious, pressing faith are the Raatzs. Tell me about it.

LINDA: That would have to be Dale Raatz. His wife had a devastating stroke, and the doctor said she’s gonna die. She’s not gonna make it. He did not believe it was God’s will for her to die. He began to press in, in faith for her healing and he just proclaiming healing scriptures. And the wife didn’t die, as the doctors projected, so they moved her to another long-term hospital. He continued to proclaim healing over her. He brought in tapes and praise music. He just didn’t give up.

SID: And he was doing it, you know, and that’s so important, 24 hours, seven days a week playing praise music. And he had to have supernatural favor because the hospital really didn’t want it. But God gave him favor.

LINDA: And also told him that faith works through love and not to despair with the doctors’ attitudes or the nurses, but to requite with love. And eventually, his wife woke up and came back to all of her faculties, and today she’s working in the ministry with him. And I think Dale would not have been able to persist like that if he didn’t believe the passage in Isaiah 53:5, which ends with saying that, “He has borne our grief and carried our sorrows, and by his stripes we are healed,” meaning that we are healed of our sins and our sicknesses, which are both works of the devil. You really see this coming together in communion, because communion draws our attention directly to the work that Jesus did on the cross, which to many people seems strange. Why should the Son of God have to die? But he died to take our pains and our guilt, and our sorrows that we could be healed.

SID: Well now you’re talking about Dr. John Miller and he had revelation on communion. You see, he recognized that from the Jewish perspective, and you got to recognize, you have to look at everything in the Bible through Jewish eyes, and he recognized that it was a Jewish Passover Seder that was the Last Supper. And I want you to partake with us right now. But what are some of the things you learned about communion from doing the research?

LINDA: One of the things Dr. Miller found was that in 2 Corinthians:11, Paul says that, “You have failed to discern the body, and for that reason many of you are sick and some have died prematurely.” And John, one of the few people to ever have this insight, that discerning the bodiment to understand what it is you’re taking when you take the bread, and so he would encourage people to take the bread of communion like a medicine, and when you chew the bread to meditate on the punishment that Jesus took on our behalf so that his beating was the punishment that I deserve for my sin. And as you enter into that mystery, healing comes.

SID: You know what’s so wonderful, Linda, is he also points out meditate on the lamb, because there wasn’t one feeble among them that when they went out from Egypt, not one feeble in millions of slaves with no doctors, no medicine, nothing but God. Let’s take a look at John talking about this with a race driver that had a problem with his vision.

JOHN: There’s always a physical and a spiritual significance and meaning to everything that God does. When they ate the brain of that lamb their brains were to be healed, but they were also to take on the mind of Christ. When they ate the eyes of that lamb they were not only to have their eyes healed but see things the way Jesus sees them. When they ate the heart of that lamb their heart was to be healed, but they were to take the heart of Christ, too. I have a friend that was a very famous race driver, drove Indy twice that wrecked on the Sacramento Mile, lost the peripheral vision of his right eye. Two o’clock in the morning in my living room, we broke the bread and he imaged that bread as that lamb, and when he ate the eye of that lamb his eye was instantly healed.

SID: How about you? Are you ready for your miracle? I know I’m ready. Linda, are you ready for your miracle? I mean, I am so ready. Are you ready for Jewish communion? It was a Passover Seder the Messiah took the matzo, he broke off a piece, and he said, “This represents my body, which was broken for you. And then he prayed a Hebrew prayer, which we know what that prayer is today, [chanting] [Hebrew]. You may eat. Then he held up the grape juice and he said, “This represents the blood, the blood of the New Covenant.” And Leviticus 17:11 says, “The life of the flesh is in the blood.” The life of Messiah is in His blood, which He shed for us. And Jeremiah 31:31 says, “A new covenant is coming,” and 31:34 says, “This covenant will accomplish two things. God will remember our sins no more and you will know Him.” Now imagine this represents the blood of Yeshua. Imagine the blood of Yeshua is running through your entire body, Linda. And I do this often. I do this daily. And we have a paper cup. Anyone can do this. You don’t have to go into a church service. And the early Jewish believers did this early. That’s why it’s so exciting. This was their form of Divine health. What’s better than a healing or a miracle, walking in Divine health? This is like taking medicine everyday, but see it as either a miracle or a progressive healing. He took the grape juice and he said [chanting] [Hebrew]. Linda, one nugget that you learned about communion from working on the research.

LINDA: That you can take it like a medicine and that your meditation should be directed by the Holy Spirit, that every time you take it will be different. Let the Holy Spirit direct you in a meditation.

SID: So it shouldn’t be religious ritual. I’m doing it because I have to do it. That’s called religion. “Religion stinketh,” quoting King James, that is. But it becomes the most vital. It becomes the highlight of your day. And you wrote a quote that I had about the difference between a miracle and a healing. Explain that quickly.

LINDA: Well it was a quote from your Introduction, and it said that, “A healing is a gradual, progressive process. A miracle is a sudden all at once thing.” And your line that I really like is, “Don’t miss your healing because you’re waiting for a miracle.”

SID: I’d like that line to end with also, “Don’t miss your healing because you’re waiting for a miracle. You have begun your healing right now. Rejoice and thank God for it in Yeshua’s name.”

11 Dec 09 Sid Roth welcomes David and Kathie Walters

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with David and Kathie Walters, and we are having more fun than humans should have but you know what that is normal and it is about time you get the lemon out of your mouth and you stop being so religious and you have, you become like a little child, and Kathie, I have to tell you, you remind me of a little child, tell me what happened in Ireland.

 

KATHIE: Okay, we were doing this meeting in Ireland. We ministered to the children and all the kids came forward, there was about 70 I guess, and David prayed or them and the Holy spirit came on them and they all fell out on the floor in the Holy Spirit, and the presence off God was all over them. Well I stood and watched them, it was the strangest, funniest things because I watched from their feet, their feet went bright red, I mean like a lobster.

 

SID: So it was like the presence of God was so strong.

 

KATHIE: It was like fire, fire, like I told you I can feel now, like fire, and their feet were bright red and it gradually went all up their legs, all up their arms, all into their heads, so they were all laying there like lobsters, I mean they looked really strange, but then they laid there for probably

have an hour but them some of them got up and they began to, it was like they were playing instruments, you know different instruments, and one of the little girls began to dance, they told us afterwards they were in heaven and they were dancing with the angels and the angels were showing them different instruments to play, and I mean you could see all of this but they weren’t

aware of you because…

 

DAVID: It was like a mime show.

 

KATHIE: Yeah, it was like miming. And then they, at the end they just laid back on the floor and the red came from their head out of them, out of their feet and then they got up.

 

SID: Now those children will never, ever forget that experience and they have a legitimate chance of being normal. David, tell me about healings you have seen when the children are actually praying for the healing.

 

DAVID: Yes, yeah when I preach to children I tell them that God can use anybody, you know in the Bible he used a bush, you know he used a rod, he used a rooster, a donkey, so he can use children, he doesn’t have to wait until they go to seminary – cemetery – I mean seminary, before God can use them, sorry about that. So they began to believe it, and them I asked, I do several

meetings with the whole families, and then we end up with having a miracle service in which I teach the children how to pray for people. So we don’t have to wait for some big evangelist, healing evangelist to come in, and the people come up and I say let these children pray for them, don’t patronize them but let them pray for you, and I don’t actually tell them to pray, I tell them to command the sickness to go, command the deafness to go, I say don’t ask God to do it, don’t say

please God make them better, I say you tell that deaf spirit to go, you tell that blind spirit to go, you tell that condition in their back to be healed in Jesus Name, and they start out a little bit reticent but as they begin to see God move they get bolder and bolder and then in the end they

will pray for anything that moves. And so we have had blind eyes opened, I remember one

woman she was totally blind in one eye and the children prayed for her and then she began to read the notice and the church called me the following week and said she could read the Bible 20/20 vision, with a week, it was totally healed, we have had so many deaf people healed, the children pray for the deaf, and I love it when, not when they are hard of hearing, but when they are totally deaf or practically deaf, take out their hearing aids and the children pray for them, sometimes they pray two or three times and then the easy open.

 

SID: And isn’t it a tragedy, you know what we do with children, we have videos for them, popcorns, or that vision that you had, children going to amusement parks and what are other religions doing with their children? They are training them. Can you imagine getting a little child and not teaching them any unbelief?

 

DAVID: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely, and then of course I remember years ago in a Kenneth Copeland convention back in England, there was a little girl called Zoe, 8 years of age who got filled with the Spirit of God in our meetings and she came down at the end of the meeting and adults were coming out of their meeting and she saw a man in a wheelchair and she was 8 years of age and she laid hands on him and said, “Get up of that wheelchair in Jesus Name,” and he got out of the wheelchair after being crippled for six years. And several years later I talked to a man and he said he lived in Brighton, and I said, “Oh I was in a Kenneth Copeland convention in Brighton, did you ever hear about that little girl named Zoe who got that man healed?” He said, “Oh yeah, that man was m brother.” He was a pastor; it was a pastor’s brother who was healed.

 

SID: Kathie, last night we were having dinner, minding our own business, and you told me that there was an angel. What was this angel doing?

 

KATHIE: He was walking up and down behind the table making little notes, I think. The angles like to, the angels love to hear revelation actually, and I think he was picking up.

 

SID: Don’t angels know everything there is to know?

 

KATHIE: The Bible doesn’t say that it says the angels desire to look in and understand, especially when it comes to salvation because angels are heirs, they are servants and ministers, so I have seen angels reading books, really good books that had revelation.

 

SID: And like almost every day are your eyes open to see?

 

KATHIE: Well see, the angels are around all the time, the chariots of God are around all the time, it is just a question of seeing what is already there, it is not for special people, that is our inheritance, that is for everybody, it is just only seeing what is already there that is what I keep telling people.

 

SID: Could you pray for everyone that is watching right now, both of you that there would be an acceleration of the supernatural and a jumpstart of the faith, and they would begin to see angels and demons and vision’s and all the stuff that’s normal!

 

DAVID: It would frighten the life out of some people

 

SID: Well listen, just don’t pray the prayer if it bothers you, but I don’t know about you, I want to be normal, I can’t stand just tradition, learn by rote, listen, I come from a Jewish background, if I wanted tradition I would have stayed in Orthodox Judaism, “Tradition,” so I went to Christianity and I found more “Tradition,” I want God. Will you pray for people?

 

KATHIE: Yeah, do we have time for the guesthouse story?

 

SID: It depends on how fast you can tell it.

 

KATHIE: I’ll tell it fast, okay, I’ll try, because it is really awesome, but we were in a guesthouse having like a retreat thing, this was in England, and we had an evening meeting and we left the meeting and went into the guesthouse to get coffee and stuff, and suddenly people came out screaming David, Kathie. And we went back into the meeting room, there was a group of teenagers standing around, this one boy had been saved that day, a little Catholic boy had got saved that day, and he was in the middle of the room like in a trance with his finger like this going around the room and when his finger got opposite, someone the power of God would hit them and they would fall on the floor, start confessing things, weeping, getting right with God.

And people were trying to leave but they couldn’t because their feet were glued to the floor, that’s why they were screaming.

 

SID: Kathie, pray right now, look in the camera and pray for a release of the supernatural.

 

KATHIE: Okay, thank you Lord, Father in the Name of Jesus I just pray for people that are watching today this program, and Lord, that is our inheritance, is that supernatural realm of God, that is our inheritance for everybody and God I just pray for a release of it right now in the mighty Name of Jesus, I just pray that people’s eyes will be opened, their ears will be opened in the supernatural realm of God that they will se the chariots, they will se the angels, they will see what their inheritance really is and know it is for them, it is for every single believer, and I come against every religious spirit that tells people it is not for you, you are not spiritual enough, I take authority over it and I thank you Lord for sending even angels to speak and minister right now and minister to people and help them to see what you already have for them Father, in Jesus Name, just pray for acceleration. Amen.

04 Dec 09 Sid Roth welcomes Earthquake Kelly

SID: Sid Roth here with Earthquake Kelly. Demons told this 15-year-old kid how to get high.

Their intent was to kill him. He had four different drug combinations in large quantities and he took it and he passes out and his buddies, what did they do, take you in a car, what did they want to do with you?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Just take me home.

 

SID: What happened?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Well on the way home I died. And the evil spirits came out the same way I was talking to them, they came out, grabbed me, snatched me out of my body and was pulling me down, I mean I was going down into a pit and then when I got to this pit they started tormenting me, it was like they were coming from everywhere, they were in my mouth, they were in my eyes, they were hitting me with all kinds of things, they were yelling and telling me that I worked for them, it was a trap and a setup and you did all our bidding for us and now you are in hell. And it was a horrible thing.

 

SID: Were you really in hell?

 

EARTHQUAKE: I was in hell, it was a real place for sure, it was real, it is real, it is not made for us, designed and made for the devil and his angels and that’s where I wound up at. That overdose of drugs was a trick from the pits of hell. The drugs were a trick to set me up, to stop my heart, to get me lost for eternity.

 

SID: What did you see?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Oh I saw all kinds of horror and misery, it’s a lonely, miserable, ugly, stinky, sulfur smelling, nasty, pitiful, horrible place that you can’t even hardly describe it.

 

SID: Did you hear people saying anything?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Oh you could hear all kinds of promises and people screaming and yells and sounds that just torment 24 hours, seven days a week of nothing but misery and torment and I was down there amongst them, with them and all that torment. But there was hands of light came down inside of that place and that pit that I was in and grabbed me by my shoulders and started pulling me out of there. And I could see even as I was pulling out of there Sid, those spirits were still trying to hold on to me saying, he’s ours, he belongs to us, but the hand of light pulled me, and took me out of there and put me back in my body. And he says because of your mother’s prayers, that’s what I’ll never forget, you were spared and because you were chosen to do a work for us Sid, but it kept saying because of your mothers prayers.

 

SID: Who was saying it?

 

EARTHQUAKE: It was God’s voice; it was God who said, “Because of your mothers prayers.”

And that’s what I heard and I said, oh God I’ve been to hell and at that point I didn’t even know to thank God because I was so wicked, I was a wizard and everything like that but I knew that something had happened.

 

SID: But you were still, you were kind of messed up physically.

 

EARTHQUAKE: I was messed up really bad, I was messed up in my mind, messed up an optic nerve because it messed up parts of my body, I realized I couldn’t walk, and so when I came back into my body the people that was driving the car they opened the car door and they said get out, and I tried to walk but I fell over into the ground because of the lower extremities that wouldn’t work, and so I had to pull the top of my body all the way to the top of the stairs and then I rang the doorbell and one of my sisters came to the door, being from my background they know an overdose because we had many people to die of an overdose around us, and she could tell.

 

SID: Okay, shortly thereafter one of your sisters invites you to church, you are doing drug deals, I mean even seeing hell, how could you still be doing drug deals?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Messed up in the mind.

 

SID: Okay, so you go, why did you even go with your sister?

 

EARTHQUAKE: because she kept telling me, “You need to be saved.” And at that time I had just went to hell, but there was a big shipment of drugs coming in and my cut was a million dollars and at 15 years-old a million dollars we could have bought an extra hamburger or something, you know.

 

SID: Okay, you get into that church and the only word I can come up with is crazy. You get into this church, what happens?

 

EARTHQUAKE: I get into the church; I’m sitting in the back, she convinced me to go, I was real mad because I didn’t want to be around Pentecostal anything, I was real mad and I said sit me in the back. So she sits me in the back and the preacher is preaching and I said okay, good, I’m finished. The next night she said oh you’re going back. I said no I’m not going back to church no more, I’m finished with church; I’ve got to get out of here, I’ve got a drug deal, a big one, real big one, the biggest one we ever had. She said no you’re going to church. So I said okay, I’ll go to church. After two or three days of that the preacher said hey you back in the back, young man.

But I didn’t know he was talking to me, I thought he was talking to somebody else. So everybody in the church turns around, so I turned around too, to see the young man he was talking to, but there wasn’t nobody else back there but me. I said man, he’s talking to me. And so he said come up here in the front God wants to save you. And is said oh man, I got mad, I said I don’t want,

I don’t want this Jesus stuff, you know I got things to do. But I heard a voice that I had never heard before. He said “I love you, remember when they had the gun to the head and the gun wouldn’t go off, when it went up in the air,” He said, “That was me.” “Remember when you were almost killed, remember when you were set up to do this and that drug deal went bad and this, that and another, he said all those times I saved you, I spared you.” He said come up here I want to save you and use you. I got out of that seat Sid, went to the front, and the pastor told me everything I had been in, he told me like he was there with me as I was growing up, he gave me all, I mean he just read everything off to me and he said you were this, you put curses on people, you did that, he told me everything. I said how can you know all of that, you don’t know me.

But it was God that told him, and at that time God was speaking to me to, at the same time he said I will use you, I can do more for you, I said hold it God, hold it, hold it. I said you know what I do, I do bad things to people, I said but if you want me you are going to have to do more for me that I was for the devil because I am a wicked person, I put curses on people and they die, and I do bad stuff, but thanks be to God, Sid, he saved me. It was like a ton of bricks fell off of me and I tell you he has been using me ever since.

 

SID: Do you know who the real hero is? The real hero of Earthquake Kelly’s story is his mom.

If you had known the beatings she went through and how she tenaciously held onto God for Earthquake’s life. Let’s go to a pre-recorded telephone call we had with her.

 

MRS. KELLY:  I am a mother of ten children, five boys and five girls. And so I would like to say now to the mothers, please do not give up, pray for your children, we need the children and children are a blessing from the Lord. God is such a loving Father and he listens to what we say, he knows our hearts, he has our feelings. There is always a God that is waiting with his arms stretched out. He loves you, he will hear your prayers and he will take care of the children. Father God, bless the mothers with their mind stayed on him. Amen.

 

SID: You may say, well that’s wonderful, I don’t have a mother that is praying for me like that, I don’t have a hero that is calling and pleading with God. Well maybe you don’t, I come from a Jewish background, you better believe my mother wasn’t praying to God for me, but someone, somewhere did. And just in case you don’t know who is praying for you, I am going to pray for you right now. Just for you. It is not an accident you are watching. I pray that the spiritual scales come off of your eyes, I pray that you experience the acceptance and the forgiveness that Earthquake experienced, that I have experienced, I pray in Yeshua, in Jesus name that you would feel God’s embrace. I pray that you would recognize that God is too good to sin against. And if you tell him you are sorry for the mistakes that you have made, no matter how big they are, God   will wipe them away, it is too good because God is love. You have never experienced love I pray for you that you would know the love of God and experience the shalom, the peace of God that passes any drug or any experience you have ever had. It is what you are created for. To have intimacy with God, intimacy with God through Jesus, that’s the deal. Take it; grab it.

27 Nov 09 Sid Roth welcomes Earthquake Kelly

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Earthquake Kelly. And Earthquake it is pretty fascinating, which moves in, what did you mother do about that, what about your brothers and sisters, you were what, the seventh child, did that have significance?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Yeah, in voodoo they deal with numbers just like we do as Christians, but they copy everything God has, so they wanted the seventh child. Me being the seventh child they picked me to go down in to Port au Prince and City Sela to live down there and work with the President at that time, Papa Doc Duvalier. But thank God I had a praying mother, and she is still praying, thank God for that.

 

SID: Okay, so you are being equipped by this witch to be I guess some sort of a priest with Papa Doc Duvalier of Haiti. How come you didn’t go there?

 

EARTHQUAKE: One day my dad, the witch and myself, the witch packed my suitcase for it, it was a little brown bag, she packed it for me, she said this is the day for you, I am going to take you into Manhattan and put you on a boat and you are going to sail down to Port au Prince.

 

SID: Did you want to do this?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Yeah I wanted to do this because I was into power at that time because I was watching some things happen, man they did some, some things really take place in that realm. And when she told me that I could have free course down in Haiti, I was all for it, the power, with the money, the control, being a child being over a lot of grownups, stuff like that sort of excited me. And when the day came for her to take me away they were going to sneak me out the back door, put me in a car and take me into Manhattan and put me on the ship, I was going to sail down into Port au Prince, my mother came out of nowhere, I mean out of nowhere, she saw us sneaking out the house and she said where are you taking my baby. And the witch says he is no longer your child he belongs to me, and my mother said no way, and she grabbed, my mother grabbed me by the arm and was pulling me. And the witch was pulling me and I was going back and forth like a tug of war. And something happened, they got me away from my mother, they were going towards the back door, and before they could get me out the back door it was like they both saw something that was so big and it scared them, they let me go and they ran out the door. And I don’t know what they saw but I believe it was because my mother was praying and God must have sent an angel to prevent them from taking me down to Port au Prince.

 

SID: You know what I also found pretty interesting about these two powers that are sort of in competition with each other, this witch used to put curses on people, and you broke into a realm where you could leave your body explain that.

 

EARTHQUAKE: Right, right, right, I could astral project, I could throw my hand through glass and not be cut, I could put a match under my hand and not be burned. I could do all kinds of different things. At that particular time I had a couple of friends of mine who went and got saved, and I mean they were really saved and I didn’t like the idea that they got saved because I felt like they left me there in the realm, and so I sent out a couple of spirits after them and I said you go   and you curse them, you destroy everything they are doing. Those little spirits came back to me and they said we couldn’t touch them. I said go back and put a curse on them, I command you, order you to do so, and they came back to me again and said we can’t touch them, they are protected. So I astral projected out of my own body and I went to see the reason why I would tell these spirits and they would come back and I know I had sent them to do other things and had never had a problem. So I went to see for myself and when I got there I saw the two brothers walking around this particular place, and I saw these seven, almost eight-foot tall angels with swords were protecting everywhere they went. And I said wow that’s the reason why those spirits came back and couldn’t do anything. These guys got some way stronger than I had, these guys were protected, I mean protected by giant angels.

 

SID: I’m curious, why in the world did your mother stay with your father with these beatings, I mean how bad did he beat her?

 

EARTHQUAKE: He beat her to the point now where she doesn’t have any sight.

 

SID: Why did she stick around?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Back in those days Sid, you know it was different from these days. They taught you to stay with the man for the children’s sake, and a lot of the old school women, they did that for the sake of the children, and my mother was one, she just wasn’t going to leave there.

 

SID: Okay, these spirits are communicating with you now on a regular basis and one, they even taught you as a young child how to get high off of a melting, what, a plastic gun?

 

EARTHQUAKE: All kinds of stuff, I won’t go into say what it is in case somebody wanted to hear, but it – see what happened, I wanted to shoot heroin with my brothers, I used to watch them tie up and get ready and hit the main line and stuff like that, and I wanted to shoot that, I was only about four or five years old. And they said you’re too young, you can’t shoot up right now, but I really wanted to and said no, they pushed me out of the room and so I heard this voice say, you don’t have to wait for that, I’ll show you what to do to get high, thee was this voice, and I could feel a presence right over my shoulder and he showed me what to do. And so at four years old I listened to this voice, this evil spirit and I started what is called “huffing” they call it huffing and–

 

SID: Let’s fast-forward though, okay so this voice teaches you how to get high as a kid, how to put this stuff together, you hear this voice again that tells you how to get super high, tell me about that.

 

EARTHQUAKE: Yeah, well I was fifteen, just turned fifteen and this voice said you have never really been high so why don’t you get this real super high so you can brag and boast, you know tell all your friends and all the drug people in the community, in the neighborhood that you can, you know, hold your dope. And so he told me what to do, he told me to get the cocaine, the weed, the tools, some pills, these tools –

 

SID: Fifteen!

 

EARTHQUAKE: Yeah fifteen.

 

SID: And this voice tells you to put all this stuff, what were the pills?

 

EARTHQUAKE: These pills, they were so strong, you take one pill, you cut that in half, then you cut that half in half, and it will keep you high for eight days, just a half of the half. I took about three or four of those, smoked some weed, did about five or six hundred dollars worth of cocaine all at one time, plus some beer, I hated beer but I was at this bar sitting there at the bar and some guy said you gotta drink or go home. So this guy knew I was underage and he still gave me the beer on top of everything else I had taken, and I overdosed, overdose of drugs, stopped my heart, it was just too much.

 

SID: That’s what the devil wanted to do, he wanted to kill him because he knows he is making an earthquake now for God, don’t go away, we’ll be right back.

20 Nov 09 Sid Roth welcomes Earthquake Kelly

On “It’s Supernatural:” as a young child Earthquake Kelly was a master of witchcraft and voodoo. As he got older his powers increased. He could cast spells and kill people by cursing them and leave his own body at will. He soon died from a drug overdose and went to hell. See what brought Earthquake Kelly back to life and discover the amazing power that can bring people back from the dead.

 

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of, “It’s Supernatural.”

 

SID: Hello Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I mean I don’t know any other life, I wouldn’t want to live any other life. My guest is a fourth generation voodoo priest who died and went to hell. Before we get to that, Earthquake Kelly, how did you get the name Earthquake Kelly? Well I see the Earthquake part, but how did you get that?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Well back in 83 I was competing for the 84 Olympics in Los Angeles and there was a guy I was fighting for in an elimination bout, and he was starting to get the best of me and I closed my eyes and threw a jab and to my surprise he was laying out on the canvas, so the guys, the sports announcer at the time said that guy hits like an earthquake, so people started calling me Earthquake from 1983, but actually before that I had a dream and in this dream the ground was shaking and a voice said because of you the ground is shaking, because of you the ground is broken. And I believe God really gave me that name first before the people in the sports arena.

 

SID: Okay, but you just don’t look Irish to me, where does the Irish come in, Kelly?

 

EARTHQUAKE: I traced my family tree back all the way to Ireland to the slave trade, there was a man named John Kelly who was in Ireland, he left Ireland and went into the Caribbean, bought some land, had a plantation there, and from the slave trade that’s where we got that name from.

 

SID: And your great ancestor you came from was African and she was involved in voodoo and Mr. Kelly did not have a good time because of this voodoo, what happened to him?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Well my people from way back they put a curse on him and it is a historical fact throughout my family tree that we know about the curse that was put on the Kelly linage there in Haiti, and all his crops started to fail so he decided well I’m not growing anything here   and he took some of his slaves and went to New Orleans believing that he was going to get away from it, of course you know some of the things happening down there. He went from there to Texas and that’s where my father was born.

 

SID: Okay, so here you are with this voodoo heritage on one side, and your father marries a Pentecostal Christian, what a combination.

 

EARTHQUAKE: Right, he sure did.

 

SID: So there is kind of a tug of war on your life, but your father doesn’t even want you to be born, he tries to get your mother to have an abortion?

 

EARTHQUAKE: right, my mother tells the story, and she said I waited until you got grown to tell it, and it was really hard on her to tell me, but she did tell me. She told me the story, and thanks be to God she said there was another hand inside of her, she could feel another hand in side of her feeling all of these things.

 

SID: You mean when she went to the abortion clinic and they were giving her all these shot and these needles to kill you, she was being supernaturally protected.

 

EARTHQUAKE: That’s right, that’s right.

 

SID: But your father, he took matters into his own hands, he beat your mother, what did he do to her?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Well what she told me it was pretty rough, he would beat her and do some awful things to her trying to destroy me on the inside, but still God said no, no, He has purpose for me and I survived by the grace of God.

 

SID: So you survived, you are born, obviously you survived, but your father starts beating you.

Why did he dislike you so much?

 

EARTHQUAKE: I have no idea, I have no idea really, all I know is the beatings just kept coming and coming and thank God –

 

SID: He would beat you with a belt buckle?

 

EARTHQUAKE: The buckle, yeah, many times.

 

SID: And I understand from your book the doctors didn’t even expect you to survive too long.

 

EARTHQUAKE: No, they didn’t give me much chance, they said if I lived to see the 9th grade I would be an old man.

 

SID: Okay, according to my notes this is amazing. At four you start taking drugs, your brothers are selling, at five you see your grandmother use voodoo against someone, and what happened?

 

EARTHQUAKE: He dropped over, he keeled over, and that’s really what started me being interested in it because I said wow, what a lot of power for somebody to say a few words and a grown man to just fall over backwards and I started getting interested in it because I didn’t even know there was that much power in it. You know except what I saw on TV as a child, now I could see it with my own eyes it was like wow I wanted some of that.

 

SID: Did you try it?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Oh yes.

 

SID: At that young age?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

 

SID: What happened?

 

EARTHQUAKE: when I said the words that I heard, it felt like something started swirling around and got on the inside of me, and these things got on the inside of me and I became possessed and it started a spiral of going downhill from then on.

 

SID: You became, how old were you when you had a gun and were working with prostitutes and pimps?

 

EARTHQUAKE: About thirteen, thirteen.

 

SID: I mean you lived a whole life by the time you were a teenager.

 

EARTHQUAKE: A life of a fifty or sixty year old man by the time I got into my teens. Yeah it was a dangerous thing to do to work with the prostitutes, I had to go to each one with the day tricking and sit there with a pistol and make sure they got paid. I was only thirteen, it started working on my mind after a while Sid, I started going really crazy after –

 

SID: What happened when your dad brought home a witch to mentor you?  What was she mentoring you for?

 

EARTHQUAKE: She told me that I, being a Haitian background and that I was to be sent down to Haiti to work under Papa Doc Douvailier to be raised up under the President of the country to control the people through voodoo. And so at the time I was floored because of the power thing and I was preparing myself to go.

 

SID: What was your preparation like, how many hours a day did you put into this?

 

EARTHQUAKE: Well not so much the day, mainly the night because I didn’t get much sleep because there is something about, what they call the witching hour, which was between twelve o’clock and three or four o’clock in the morning which a lot of evil things are being – you are learning a lot through that time.

 

SID: She would give you; this witch would give you the names of demons that would then inflict harm on people.

 

EARTHQUAKE: Oh yes, by the hundreds, oh yes.

 

SID: So you then would then call out this name and then evil would happen to people?

 

EARTHQUAKE: You could send things to people, right.

 

SID: What happened, wait till you find out what happened when he tries to use his power against some real Christians; don’t go away, we’ll be right back.

13 Nov 09 Sid Roth welcomes Darren Wilson

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Darren Wilson, Darren you told me that homeless guy was panhandling for money after he got physically healed, what did he do about the money?

DARREN: He totally forgot, he was so happy and so excited he forgot to ask for it.

SID: You told me you have been showing this film all over to students, you showed it at Judson University where you are a professor, what happened?

DARREN: Well we showed it there and God showed up. I mean he shows up every time it is shown. And a bunch of kids were healed of depression, I had a girl who the next, two days later I was teaching a class and she raised her hand before it started and she said, “Professor Wilson, I just want to thank you for making that movie, I have struggled with depression my entire life and after that movie was over I got prayer and it is gone. Every day like for two days now I have woke up and I am the happiest person, I have never been this happy.” And two weeks later I talked to her again and she is still just bubbling over with joy.

SID: And gold dust appears when this is shown?

DARREN: Gold dust, yes, a lot of times that happens, it is just when God’s glory shows up, and gold dust shows up with it I guess. But yeah we showed it at Judson and about twenty students got gold dust on their hands, it was shown at a youth group in Michigan in like fifteen minute segments and they turned it off after the first fifteen minutes, turned on the lights, and all the boys were covered in gold dust. Just strange things.

SID: I have got to hear about Mozambique, you met a woman by the name of Heidi Baker and she has a strategy to reach Mozambique, and in particular, orphans. Tell me what her strategy is.

DARREN: Well first of all let me just say Heidi is the most loving person I have ever encountered in my entire life.

SID: I can tell you when I saw your video it just provoked me to jealousy and I prayed, I don’t know how it affected you or anyone else, but I prayed God I want to love people like Heidi.

DARREN: Yeah, she is fantastic, anyway what she will do is they will go into a Muslim village, a village that’s never heard the name of Jesus before, they go deep into the bush of Africa here, and they will go into these villages and she will do some singing and dancing, and everybody comes because of what’s going on, and what they will do, she will then, she will preach, for fifteen, twenty minutes, tell them that Jesus is real, tell them who he is, they will usually show the Jesus film at some point, then she will, what she has done is she says, “I am going to prove to you that Jesus is real.” And so she says, “Bring me your deaf, bring me your blind, bring me your crippled, whoever you have got here who needs to be healed, bring them up here right now.” And so the village will you know, bring up the deaf people say, and she will ask the whole village, do you all agree this man, this woman is deaf? Do you attest to that? And they will all say, yes, yes, yes, she is deaf. And so Heidi and her children, these orphans that she has taken in will lay hands on this person and they will pray for him and instantly their ears will be opened, their eyes will be opened, and the entire village will be converted literally in one day because the signs proceeded the invitation into the Kingdom.

SID: You went to Turkey with the Gypsies, tell me about the Gypsies and tell me about Heidi when she went with you there.

DARREN: Yeah, well the Gypsy trip was really interesting, we spent ten days with the Gypsies in Turkey and Bulgaria, and you know I didn’t realize until I got over there exactly how hated the Gypsies are around the world. Here in America they are kind of like a novelty you know there is something exotic about the Gypsies, but over there they are a real problem, they are scoundrels, they steal, you know nobody likes them. And so we went and we were encountering Gypsies that had been completely transformed by the love of God, and they had turned their life around.

SID: They really know how to celebrate.

DARREN: They know how to celebrate.

SID: Fun.

DARREN: Yeah, they love to dance; they love to dance. So we were over there and it was actually the last thing that I filmed in the whole journey. We were in Istanbul, in a little Gypsy village, and there was a, Heidi had joined us for the last couple of days out there, and there was a woman there, a Muslim woman who was blind in one eye, and Heidi was trying to pray for her, for healing in her eye, but she had to rely on this Turkish pastor to be her interpreter, and it was a really interesting segment, and as I was filming it I knew that this was one of those moments where you just dream as a filmmaker, I can’t believe I am capturing this on film because on the one hand you have Heidi, who just exudes love, and that is her whole life.

SID: When I saw the footage in Mozambique of Heidi with the orphans, how many orphans does she have?

DARREN: They have over seven thousand.

SID: Did you get that? Seven thousand orphans and she, it seems like she has orphans around her hugging, hugging, she is hugging them, all the time, that love that you said exudes, that is what I am illustrating right now.

DARREN: Yeah, and so she is trying to just love this woman and pray for her but the Turkish pastor wants to convert this woman first, and so you have this kind of dichotomy, on the one hand you have got just love with no strings attached, no obligations, God loves you and you know, let God touch you and then you have to decide for yourself. Whereas on the other hand, you have got religion coming in and saying no, you have to become a part of our club first and then you will get your healing. And so it is this back and forth between these two and it was just absolutely fascinating to watch.

SID: But you know there was a line by Heidi Baker that is ringing in my ears, she kept saying to this pastor that was let’s say, legalistic, “You have to love them.” She was almost pleading, “You have to love them.”

DARREN: Yeah you have to love, it is all about love and the pastor even said, “I do love her but I want to train her. I need to train her first.”

SID: He just didn’t get it.

DARREN: No, didn’t get it.

SID: Tell me about something that you saw with your own eyes in Mozambique.

DARREN: Okay I will tell you, it was the one time, the only time where I was filming where I almost dropped the camera, because I wasn’t prepared for it, and that was the first, we had gotten to this village and again they had never heard the name of Jesus, and Heidi had called for, the Lord had told her there was a deaf woman here, she had to pray for the deaf woman first, not to pray for anybody else until you pray for that deaf woman. So she called literally for twenty minutes, and I am sitting her thinking twenty minutes, it’s like she is not here, you know let’s move on. But Heidi is just stanch; I am not going to pray for anybody until I find this woman. So finally they bring this woman. She wasn’t there, somebody had to go get her. I remember, I asked Heidi “What took her so long to get up there?” And she looked at me really strange and she said, “She’s deaf, she didn’t hear me calling her.” And I’m like oh yeah. So this woman gets up and she has a little baby like it was a brand new born baby, and she is totally deaf, the whole village testifies, yeah this lady is deaf. And so Heidi starts to pray for her, she has the children pray for her. And the woman hears, it is on film, you see, and I remember hold the camera and tears are just streaming down my face, I have two small children myself, and just tears, I am shaking and my other camera guy has you know little children himself, and he could barely hold the camera because you are realizing this woman is finally going to get to hear her baby cry for the first time. She is going to hear her baby, her young child speak her name for the first time, and it just, I could hardly stand. And the presence of God was just so thick there. And then once that happened the whole village, the whole village was converted.

SID: Last thought, how has this changed you Darren?

DARREN: It has changed my DNA to be quite honest with you; it has changed me literally from the inside out. That’s what I tell people when they watch the movie, when I go to show it different places I say look you have to understand, this movie is zero to sixty in about 2.3 seconds and I have had two years to process what I have seen. And in those two years it has completely changed me from the inside out so that now I know that God is, he is a God of encounter, he is a God of extreme power, and he is a God of extreme love.

SID: Speaking of extreme love, do you remember when Heidi said “You have to love them”? Well you can’t love them until you have experienced love, and I want you right now, don’t wait, to experience the love of God. I pray in Yeshua’s name, that you would have an encounter with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Don’t settle for religion, don’t settle for tradition, there is more, you can experience the love of God and then you can do what Heidi said to others. You can’t give someone something you don’t have yourself. Then you can love them. It is time to experience God’s love yourself.

06 Nov 09 Sid Roth welcomes Darren Wilson

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Darren Wilson, Darren was literally commissioned by God to travel the world and capture the miraculous. I tell you one of my favorite things that I saw on your video Darren was when you went with Jason Westerfield out on the campus of Yale University; tell me about that.

DARREN: Yeah well I was actually told by a friend that I trust that I gotta meet this guy, Jason Westerfield, in Connecticut, so I went there, I had one day with him, I had never met him before and we went to the heart of Yale University’s campus. And while we were there Jason just had a really powerful experience with the Lord and he kind of was you know, having this experience and I’m off to the side waiting patiently for him to stop having this experience so we could go film, and afterwards he came up and he was relating to me some of the things that he saw, and I said wow, that’s pretty neat that you know, you had that happen to you. Meanwhile I was very bored. So then he looked at me kind of strange. I have since talked to him and I asked him why he did this and he said the Lord told him to do it. So he looked at me and he said, “You want to see into the spiritual realm?” And I said, “Sure, hit me with your best shot.” And so he says, “Take off your glasses.” So I took my glasses off and he put his hands on my eyes and he said a real simple prayer, he said, “Lord open his eyes and let him see.” And he still had his hands on my eyes and he said to me, he is like, “Now Darren, just so you know when I take my hands off of your eyes you are going to see into the spiritual realm, so don’t get too freaked out.” And so I am like okay. And so he takes his hand off my eyes and he said, “Now look up there between those two chimneys, and I look up there and there was these little poppy like sparkly firecrackers going off in the sky, saw them with my bare eyes. And I am putting my glasses back on and what is this? And it opened up like a banner.

SID: Now it wasn’t just through the power of suggestion?

DARREN: No, no I am seeing these things pop out, it is like the fourth of July in the sky, and I said, “What is that?” And he says, “That’s the glory of God,” he says, “That’s the glory realm of the supernatural.” And I’m like, “Holy cow.” And so he points down the alleyway, and he said, “Look they are down there.” And I look in the shadows and they are popping off in the shadows. And this is just blowing my mind. And so he said, “Oh, turn around and look.” And I turned around, and keep in mind five minutes before this happened I was bored out of my mind and so I am like just walking around, we are in a big huge courtyard, and I know what the courtyard looked like five minutes before, and so I turned around and half of the courtyard is covered in this like thick fog, and the other half there is no fog.

SID: Is there any natural explanation?

DARREN: No, no, unless somebody, unless those firecrackers were, I don’t know. But no, so I said, “What is that?” And he said, “That’s the glory cloud, that is the cloud of God’s presence.” It was the most, it was the strangest thing that has ever happened to me, I mean I was so shocked, I remember I picked up my camera, never even thought to hit record or anything like that, and we were, we walked out of the courtyard and we hit the street, and one of the guys that was with us said, “Look down the street,” So we looked down and the cloud was following us and the whole street is covered in this fog.

SID: Now when you were commissioned by an angel to document the supernatural you didn’t expect to be living it, did you?

DARREN: Didn’t expect to be living it, no, I thought I was just the messenger, so at that point that was when Jason said, he was like, “Well God is here so now we can pretty much do whatever we want.”

SID: I would like to see a clip from the film of the homeless man, what did you think of that particular clip?

DARREN: That was, it is probably my favorite part of the movie, it is the, I remember at this point this is actually the one-year anniversary of when I started filming the movie, I knew when I was shooting it that it was going to be the end of my film, I knew it. And it was midnight and we were heading home and this homeless guy walked up to us and he was an absolute stereotype, everybody has met this guy, you know smells, he is limping, he is asking for money, and you know Jason said, told him, it was like I’ll give you some money but first I want to give you something better.

SID: Let’s take a look at that right now.

Announcer: I was with my friend Jason Westerfield and we were heading home when a homeless man approached us, he was a stereotype, he smelled, wouldn’t look us in the eye, he had a limp and he was asking for money. Jason told him he would give him some money but first he wanted to give him something better. So first he prayed for the man’s back, which he had been complaining about. Then he prayed for his leg. And I just sat there and stared at this man. He had no one, owned nothing, was a homeless bum living on the streets, what was happening to him right now? What was God going to do to show him he loved this man? And that is when I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, this man was going to be healed, not through anything Jason was doing, or Heidi, or Dennis, or Bill, or whoever, but through the love that God had for this man. He wasn’t homeless; he was a prince. He wasn’t broken; he was made whole.

Man: It feels much better.

Jason: Feels much better, how you doing?

Man: Good.

Jason: This is William, look at you, feel lighter?

Man: Yeah.

Jason: Those weights are gone and God healed you right there and God healed your neck and back and you look better, you look like, your face looks normal now.

Man: Yeah, thank you very much.

Jason: God does work miracles, he loves you, God set you up tonight to be right here, you thought you were coming for silver and gold, some money, but the Lord said, “Hey, I got something better for you.” He will give you that but he wanted to bless you tonight. You are his son; he loves you.

Man: I appreciate everything.

Jason: Yeah, God bless you.

Man: Love you guys.

30 Oct 09 Sid Roth welcomes Darren Wilson

On It’s Supernatural: one man’s journey around the world in search of miracles caught on video tape, see the power of God in the underground church of China, see homeless people receive miracles before your eyes, and more miracles in Turkey and Mozambique.

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of “It’s Supernatural.”

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. My guest Darren Wilson has put together a video, he traveled the world to literally, what did the Lord tell you his purpose for this video is?

DARREN: Well it is basically to show what he is doing around the world and to give people, to show that his love isn’t just a theory; it is a reality. And really what his love and what his kingdom looks like.

SID: As far as I am concerned it takes someone out of religion and into where God wants you in the first place, and that is intimacy with him, relationship with him, it is got nothing to do with religion, religion is your personal taste and preference. But give me a brief thumbnail sketch of what they will see in this video.

DARREN: Sure, the film is really my personal journey around the world, so you get everything from seeing gold dust and gold teeth to manna, to seeing teenagers on the streets healing people, people being raised from the dead, gypsies in eastern Europe who were radically changed, the underground church in china, all kinds…

SID: Tell me about the underground church in China. What’s going on there?

DARREN: Oh it is growing in leaps and bounds; it is growing rapidly, rapidly, and they’re having all kinds of miracles happen on a regular basis.

SID: But you know what, when I saw their faces it did something to me, how about you?

DARREN: Yeah, yeah, it does something to everybody who sees it.

SID: I want to see what happens to you, I want you to take a look at real believers in the Messiah.

Announcer: In this church the people wake up at 4:30 to come together for two hours to pray and worship, they do this every day. This church meets in the only place they are safe, a cave. This church meets on a farm far away from prying eyes. Here is an example of an underground church outreach, the people sitting are Christians, the people who are standing are not. This particular preacher was once crippled but was healed when someone prayed for her; she now preaches the good news of Jesus to anyone who will listen. In this particular meeting over one thousand people became Christians. This is a church service attended by over six thousand people, and while that may sound like a lot, you have to understand this one church has over three hundred thousand members. This is often how churches operate in China, they start by getting everyone’s attention using drama or music, then they pray for the sick, this has become common practice in the Chinese church and for good reason, as Dennis put it:

Dennis: I have seen AIDS patients completely delivered recently, a lot of different healings, and the healing and the miracles are one reason that many people come to the Lord.Here Christians cast out demons from an eighteen-year-old girl, she is now a preacher. In Shanghai alone there are over three thousand house churches just like this one. One thing Dennis pointed out to me was that most of the underground churches in china are actually led by young people, these kids have all come out of the communist system and they want nothing to do with it. They only want to spread the love of Jesus to everybody they meet. This is a music school; well that is the cover anyway, it is really a training school for students who want to be pastors. The government thinks they are there simply to play instruments. One thing I quickly realized about the Chinese church is that it is a lot different from the American one. For one thing they think a four hour sermon is short, but more than that is how different their services looked from ours, I mean see for yourself what happens when a desperate people plug into a powerful God. This is a Sunday School Class. “What’s the big deal about that?” you ask. Well, none of these kid’s parents are Christians. They send their kids here so they will learn to be good children. Nearly all of these children will eventually lead their parents to the Lord. In this church service it is 120 degrees inside the building. The people meet for twelve hours straight. Dennis told me one story about a time he went to a very remote village in China to preach. He was led into a large room where the people were packed so close together that he had his back to the wall and could reach out and touch the row in from of him. Everyone stood. There was no room to sit. He asked how long he should preach for and they told him from 8:30 to 7:00 at night. And they asked him if it wasn’t too much trouble could he come back tomorrow and preach from 8:30 to 7:00 again. And then very sheepishly they asked again, “If you would be so kind could you come back the day after that and preach from 8:30 to 7:00.” He asked how often he should take breaks and they told him not to stop. The people would wait. And then he asked what he should preach on. “Everything,” they replied, “from Genesis to Revelation.” And then it dawned on him; these people had no Bibles.

23 Oct 09 Sid Roth welcomes Kathie Walters

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here still trying to do an interview with Kathie Walters. You’d think it’s so easy. You come here and do it. But tell me about this. I’m so fascinated with this angel change that took resonance in your house for three and a half weeks. Tell me about it.

KATHIE: Okay. One Sunday night, I was watching a movie. My friend was doing some ironing. And it’s a good lesson here, because while I was watching the movie, out of the corner of my eye I saw a light. Well hello, most people have seen the Light. But I turned to see what the light was. So when I looked around there was one of the biggest angels I ever saw in my life, right there in my living room. And he had a little like a jug with a long spout, a jug of oil. And the next thing, he was standing behind me, and he poured this oil over my head, went over my head, my front, my arms. It really felt like a river. And the next minute, I slid out of the sofa and I sat on the floor.

SID: I can picture that.

KATHIE: So my missionary friend, who’s ironing, said, “What are you doing?” So I said, “Can’t you see that angel?” So she said, “No, but I can smell oil.” So I scooted over and I said, “Sit there.” So she sat there. He poured the oil, she slid out the sofa onto the floor. Well then she went down to my office and there were some people working the Bible codes. She said, “There’s an angel! There’s an angel!” So they came running up. They took turns. They sat on the sofa and he poured the oil. They fell out of the sofa. Well the word got around, I guess, my little town, and people were calling me for three and a half weeks, saying, “Can we come and sit on the sofa?”

SID: Okay, well wait a second, Kathie. It’s okay to slide out off when the angel does this. But what’s on with these people?

KATHIE: Well I’m going to explain that afterwards, okay? I’m going to explain that.

SID: Okay. You’re going to have to, you’re going to force me to wait. All right.

KATHIE: Yeah. Because I have to tell you the other bit first. So the angel came. Whoever sat there, he poured this oil and they’d fall out of the sofa onto the floor. If you sat at the other end, nothing happened because he stayed right there for three and a half weeks. And suddenly, he left. Now, people said to me, “What was that all about?” And I said, “Well I didn’t do it. I don’t know.” But I noticed that everyone I knew that came and sat on that sofa, the angel poured the oil over the next few weeks, they received a major life direction changing word for their life, that changed the course of their life or ministry. So that angel anointed them for change.

SID: You know, Kathie–

KATHIE: Anointed for change.

SID: There’s very little talk about angels. Some people are actually afraid of them. Some are worried that there will be angels that aren’t from God. I personally love your teaching. I listen to your teaching on “Faith in Angels” on your CD, and your booklet, “Angels Watching Over You.” What kind of feedback are you getting on people that sit in the seminar on angels? I mean, are they still observers or are they participating in the supernatural?

KATHIE: No. The whole point is that I teach the supernatural of angels and heavenly visitations, that’s for everybody. That’s supposed to be a normal part of life. It’s not just for me or you, or a few special people. That’s our inheritance. There’s angels appointed to everyone. People do have religious concepts about angels, which God is getting rid of. And people have this fear, like you said, oh maybe this angel is not from God. But you see, if an angel came in here today and wanted us to worship him, I think we’d know he wasn’t from God.

SID: Of course.

KATHIE: It doesn’t take a great deal of discernment. So God’s angels wouldn’t let you worship them anyway. So it’s not an issue, is it? So there’s angels that come to minister to you personally, like He says in Hebrews, “They sing to you.” And there’s also angels appointed to our ministry. They minister with us.

SID: You told me about someone was getting up to speak and you saw a change of one angel with another angel, I think it was.

KATHIE: Yeah.

SID: Tell me about that.

KATHIE: Okay. That was really interesting. And I was at a Gwen Shaw conference. And I saw the angel overlooking this meeting, Gwen Shaw’s meeting, and he was just watching from the balcony. And I said to the Lord, “Who’s that?” And He said, “That’s the angel over this ministry and he operates under the Archangel Michael, who’s over Jerusalem.” But all of a sudden, Gwen Shaw announced Ruth Heflin is gonna speak. Then I saw the angel over Gwen Shaw’s ministry move over to the other side of the balcony, and another angel came and stood there. And he was like this cloud of light golden glory, like the figure of a man. And I thought, what is he doing? And then Ruth Heflin ministered and she left, and that angel left. And that was the angel over her ministry who watched over the meeting while Ruth was ministering. ‘Cause then the other one came back.

SID: That is phenomenal. And the thing that is most phenomenal is that everybody has an angel and everyone can move in the supernatural.

KATHIE: Yes. That’s true.

SID: In fact Kathie, I would like you to pray for the spiritual scales come off the eyes of those that are viewing right now and move in the supernatural. Would you do that?

KATHIE: Yeah. Can I just say something else?

SID: Sure.

KATHIE: If you are near a Bible or something, you can hold it up, you know, because everything in here is for you. Everything in this book is your inheritance for you. So I tell people to lift this up and say, “Mine! This is mine.” You have to say it, “It’s mine!” Not a few special people. So yeah, I will pray that people get that revelation. And you can’t just, you know, think, well this is interesting. Yes. No, it’s not interesting. It’s for you. So you have to be convinced of it. And I’ll pray people will see that.

SID: Do that right now.

KATHIE: Father, in the name of Yeshua, in the name of Jesus, Lord, I just pray for that Spirit of revelation to come into the homes, into the offices, wherever people are watching. And Lord, I pray that revelation will come that this is for you. This is for me. It’s mine. The angels, the heavenly visitations, the chariots of God, the supernatural realm is our inheritance for every single believer. I just pray for releasing of that, that people will get it, and not just think of it as something to write a note about, and to get it in their lives and start to declare, this is my inheritance and this is my experience. Amen.

SID: Kathie, you prayed about chariots. Explain what they are. I know what they are. But do

explain.

KATHIE: Okay. Well I’ve often seen in the meetings, I’ve seen God’s chariots moving around.

SID: Did they look like Roman chariots with horses and–

KATHIE: The chariots seem to manifest slightly different to different people, because, you know, we’re all individuals, and He ministers to you personally. So I’ve seen, I begin to see a lot of wheels sometimes in the meetings. And I tell people, “God’s chariots are here. You can go in them. Just by faith you have to see them, and then you can go in them, and God will take you places.”

SID: And then you have supernatural experiences in other parts of the world.

KATHIE: Yeah. He loves, God loves to show you what He’s doing in other places.

SID: Does he ever take you up to the Throne Room?

KATHIE: Yeah, sometimes I’ve been into Heaven. Like everyday for three and a half weeks I was in Heaven. Another time, everyday for seven days I was in Heaven. But He usually takes me to a lot of nations and shows me different moves, different things that are happening. But that’s not, see, that’s for everybody. You just have to believe it.

SID: Kathie, very quickly, what would you say to the person that is almost a nervous wreck right now? They’re so upset over all this supernatural stuff we’re talking about. What would you say to them?

KATHIE: Why are you upset? [laugh]

SID: [laugh]

KATHIE: Why would you be upset? I think it would be wonderful news.

SID: I have to tell you, it’s normal. It’s about time the world becomes normal. I personally wish and I believe, and I’ve prayed that prayer with Kathie, I believe that I’m gonna have many, many angelic encounters. I’m not looking for them. But I believe I’m going to Heaven, because they’ve been sent to minister to those who are heirs of salvation. And we are heirs. You are an heir of salvation. And however, I’ve only seen an angel a couple of times. But I have some good news for you. I experience the presence of God, God Himself living inside of me 24/7. That’s even better than angels. God, the Creator of the Universe, living inside of me 24/7, and I’m aware of it. I am never alone. Look, if God is for you, who can be against you? I mean, I read the papers like you, and I see all the things that are horrible, that are going on, on the Earth. If I have God, the Creator of Universe that loves me so much, and here’s the good news, He loves you as much as He loves me. All you have to do is get to know Him. Get beyond religion. Say, “Jesus, I make you Lord.”