Our Guest Becky Dvorak

SID: Now, don’t forget that after this program is over, you can logon to sidroth.org/becky to watch a powerful extended version of this program. You know, Becky, you had such a powerful revelation of the whipping post. Was this a vision? How did you receive it?

BECKY: I was ministering the Word of God concerning how the redemptive blood of Jesus, and I was on the topic of the whipping post from Isaiah 53 four and five. As I’m ministering this to the people, teaching the people, I see a vision and I hear God start speaking to me, and He’s asking me, “Did you ever read that Jesus was sick?” Have we ever read Jesus was sick, Sid?

SID: No.

BECKY: No. He said, “It’s because Jesus was an exceptional man of faith on this earth. He operated in faith any time any sickness or disease would try come upon Him. He did not allow it to enter into His body because He knew the power of life and death were in his words.” So, when Jesus … when they started to whip Him, what I saw … God was speaking to me, and He said that sickness could not enter into his body because he was such a man of exceptional faith. So, those first initial whippings were to break down His human flesh so that sickness and disease could actually start to enter into His body.

BECKY: God actually told me that Jesus was being marinated with our sickness and with our disease. The only way that that could even happen, to begin with, happened because He gave a verbal permission with His words in the Garden of Gethsemane, when He said, “Not My will, but Your will be done.” It was our sickness, our disease that was entering into His body so that we could be delivered and free from it, so that we no longer have to have sickness. That is at the point where we received the power of life and death in our words over this sickness to say, “No, not in my body in Jesus’ name.”

SID: Right now, pray a prayer for healing for those that are watching.

BECKY: Right now, in Jesus’ name, I renounce the spirit of death over your bodies and I release the spirit of life to enter in, in Jesus’ name. For that man that is dealing with pancreatic cancer, in Jesus’ name, I renounce that cancer and I command it to come out of that pancreas in Jesus’ name, and your pancreas is recreated and it functions perfectly, normal, in Jesus’ name.

BECKY: There is a woman, and she is contemplating suicide because your husband has been unfaithful. I say, in Jesus’ name, the Word of God says, “Choose life.” You always choose life. I renounce that spirit of suicide that is over you right now in Jesus’ name, and I release the ministering angels of the Holy Spirit into your very presence, in Jesus’ name. Amen.

Our Guest Andrea Di Meglio

SID: I’m here with Andrea. Andrea, you were sabotaged. That’s all I can say. You should have never survived what you went through. You’re Swiss. Your mom was involved in … It’s like so many that are involved in searching for truth. Sometimes they get into the counterfeit. They get into witchcraft, new age, the occult. She was in all those things. Then she turned to drugs and alcohol. The marriage was bad. She gets pregnant at 21 with Andrea. And your father is abusive, even threatened to kill you. And at age three and a half she literally took you, escaped, and went to shelters, homeless-type shelters. I mean, you really were sabotaged. But when you were 11 years old you two were rescued. What happened?

ANDREA:  So when I was 11 years old I played soccer in a club. And my best soccer friend ended up being a Christian, so he would tell me about Jesus and I always believed in supernatural things since my mom was involved in witchcraft and new age. I would always see visible creatures walking around in my room or audible voices talking to me. So I always knew that there was a spiritual world outside, but I wasn’t able to give a name to it. And my friend, he would tell me about this Jesus. And when we would have games, my mom would come and watch the games, and so did his mom as well. So they started to get to know each other, and we ended up becoming good friends with them. And since they lived right in the village next to where we were living, we ended up going to their house quite a lot.

And when I was 11 years old, they both asked us if we want to ask Jesus into our hearts. And we ended up saying, “Yes, of course.” And it was the best decision ever. So they both prayed for us. We ended up receiving Jesus. And I saw my mom as a young boy being completely transformed by the power and love of God in a very short amount of time. She was set free from everything. Really beautiful.

SID: But, you know, Andrea is young, and he wasn’t willing to give up the world. So you might say as we have a phrase here in America, one foot in the Lord and foot in the world. But he wanted to be a professional athlete, and you were involved in … in Switzerland they have something called floor ball, which you tell me is ice hockey is the closest to floor ball. And you were ready for the championship tournament, but it was better than the championship tournament. The scouts from the top pros were going to go watch him become a superstar, and the Hollywood movie script was going to be written out in his life. But that’s not the way it was written. He breaks his ankle. Tell me about that.

ANDREA:  So I was supposed to play at the under-19 world championship that was taking place in Switzerland, and I was obviously training really hard in order to make the best out of that opportunity. And literally three days before that world championship would start, I broke my ankle. My ligaments were torn, and I was obviously really hurt and disappointed. So I was 17 years old when that happened, and I remember going home and just for the first time really opening up my heart to God telling him that, “I want to give my life completely to you.” I was looking for things. I was trying to have my identity anchored in things that I wasn’t supposed to do. And for the first time in my life I also admitted to Jesus that I was actually hurt not having a biological father next to me.

In just a couple of seconds something entered my room. Love entered in, and I was baptized in the Holy Spirit and the love—on the floor weeping for hours and hours. And that’s where my life really started to be transformed in an absolute beautiful, incredible way.

SID: And this love has driven him to revelations that frankly I haven’t heard other guests talk about, about operating in miracles. And this love allows him to operate in miracles, but that’s not what his passion is. His passion is, he says, anything God has given him, God has already given you. And his passion is to see you operating miracles but not for the miracles. He wants you to operate in miracles to grab the attention of a non-believer so that they too can experience being joined from above and knowing the Messiah of Israel. We’ll be right back after this, because I want him to explain these revelations to you.

Our Guest Dr. Francis Myles

FRANCIS:  So those are the three things that we are going to do. Now there may be some of you who don’t know your biological parents. You are adopted and we’ve run across that. And there’s a part of the prayer where we’re going to deal with that aspect of it. Okay,        does that make sense? So all I want you to do now is to pray this prayer after me. Remember it’s by faith. Just like when you got saved the preacher simply said, hey, he never saved you, but he led you in a prayer that helped you get [saved]. Does that make sense? I was led by an Assemblies of God pastor who told me about Yeshua and I went to the front and he told me a few words but those few words, ha! Changed me, overnight I knew I was changed. So that’s the whole point here. By confession the way is made unto salvation. Amen? So here we go, so I want you to say this after me and it’s coming from here. He says what about people who have been married more than once? I asked the Lord about that. He said to me: I recognize once the divorce decree has been recognized the marriage is over. Are you with me? So the decree of divorce actually cuts you off from that. So don’t deal with that, deal with what’s present. Are you with me? So you never have to deal with it. But that’s the thing.      Okay? Does that make sense? All right. Okay, let’s now go ahead and pray this prayer after me–– And some of you with young children who are not under the age, I found out knowing that when people jump the line if they’ve got children, under age children, who [are] in the house miracles happen with the children. I asked the Lord: Why does that happen? Because children are still under your covering. When you shift, things shift in the spirit. You know, but if they are much older than they’re on their own, and you’re going to make them jump the line by themselves. You have to walk them through it. So say this after me–

FRANCIS PRAYS WITH AUDIENCE REPEATING AFTER HIM PHRASE BY PHRASE:

[Say]: Heavenly Father; I stand in Your royal courtroom; to receive your righteous judgment; over my bloodline inheritance. Heavenly Father; I call upon Your holy angels; to be witnesses; to this legal; and righteous transaction. I also decree; and declare; that that all the demonic powers; that have ever been attached; to the bloodlines; of my natural ancestors; will respect; and honor; the righteous judgment; of this royal; supreme court; over my genetic inheritance. Heavenly Father; Your word says; if we confess our sins; You are faithful and just; to forgive our sin; and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Heavenly Father;  forgive me; for worshipping; my family ancestry; my family tree; instead of; giving it up; for the sake; of the knowledge; of Christ my Lord.

FRANCIS:  Now– in this phase we are about to deal with the denouncing the father’s [lineage]. Remember– as soon as I say, “I denounce” û I’m going to keep quiet only for seconds û as loud as you [can] you’ve got to be able to what? Mention your father’s last name with the word “lineage” attached to it– Amen? Mention it with the word what?

AUDIENCE:  Lineage.

FRANCIS:  Please do that, okay?

FRANCIS PRAYS WITH AUDIENCE REPEATING AFTER HIM PHRASE BY PHRASE:

[Say]: Heavenly Father; I willingly; and joyfully; denounce; [insert your father’s last name and use word “lineage] [Say]: I denounce; the lineage; that this name; represents; and all the demonic; technologies; and iniquities; that are attached to it; through the timeline; of this lineage; can no longer; be superimposed; over my life and destiny. I give it up; I give it up; to possess; Yeshua’s; holy; and flawless; prophetic bloodline. I declare; that Yeshua’s; genetic inheritance; is now my inheritance; by faith!

FRANCIS:  Glory to God. Now we ae going to deal with the mother now. Okay, we’re going after the mother now. Can you feel the power– whoosh–. Say–

AUDIENCE:  [REJOICES]

Our Guest Ana Werner

SID: Ana, these experiences you’ve had in heaven, they’re not just for you. Who are they really for?

ANA: No, I feel like God gave me these encounters to just release them so that everybody can encounter him like that. I’m not a special person. I’m just a regular person, but I know how to step into his presence, and I love to lead other people to step into his presence. It’s all for intimacy with him. I just want to say that going to heaven is amazing, but knowing him is the best part. So for me, I release these stories so that other people can find themselves one step closer to Jesus and just get hungry, create that hunger that other people can experience that and go there as well.

SID: Ana, you were in an Aglow meeting, and you saw something that I just pray that it would happen here as you tell this story.

ANA: I was supposed to speak at a conference at the Women’s Aglow meeting, and the honest truth is I was not feeling well. I was really sick that morning, and I said, “God, if I’m going to do this, heal me Lord, or send me back up. Please.” That was my prayer. Now I was declaring, “I’m going to be healed, I’m going to be healed.” And then I got there and I wasn’t healed. And I was like, “Oh, I’m not feeling good.” And we’re during worship, worship is going on, and my assistant looked at me and she said, “Oh, you know, I can’t see them but I feel them. Are there angels here?” And right then, my spiritual eyes were open, and I saw angels lining the whole back of the stage where I was going to preach it, lining the back in the lights.

SID: I’ve heard about having your back, but this is great.

ANA: So I went to preach, and I gave a message and then we did an altar call. If you need healing, come for it, and the altar got filled. And as I was going to go start praying, I stopped because I felt a warm heat come behind my right shoulder. So I looked behind me like this, and there I saw an angel standing right there, and the angel’s holding a kneecap in his hand. So I went and I said, “Does anybody need healing in their knee?” And it was a person right in front me, the first lady, and she said, “Me, me, me!” So I went, grabbed the knee and then I just put it on her knee, and there was an audible pop.

SID: Now when you grabbed the knee, I’m just curious, did you literally feel like it was in your hand?

ANA: Yes, yes. It felt a weight, the heaviness of it and it was hot. It felt hot to my touch. So put it in her knee, it healed. There was a pop, she’s screaming, “I’ve been healed!” She’s jumping, jumping, jumping. And I said, “That’s awesome! Anything else?” One by one, angels continued to bring me body parts, and that for me was a new experience of partnering with angels and partnering with what God is releasing from heaven. And he released body part after body part after body part in that meeting. It was incredible.

SID: I have interviewed people that have died and gone to heaven and been told it wasn’t their time. Came back and they have described a room in heaven called a body parts room. Have you ever seen that room?

ANA: Yes, I’ve been there.

SID: Okay.

ANA: It’s a real thing.

SID: So can you picture? But here’s the truth. This life is nothing more than a blink of the eyes and it’s over compared to eternity which has no end, and it’s all so true. No matter how healthy you are, no matter how young you are, you don’t know when your time will end, so there is nothing to compare with knowing God experientially before you die, because the only way you’ll know where you’re going to go after you die is if you know God experientially before you die, and I know how you can do it, because God loves the whole world, but let’s narrow in right on you right now. God loves the whole world, but he loves you, and if you will say this prayer with me and mean it to the best of your ability out loud right where you are.

SID: God’s not a man that he should lie. And he says, you will be rescued from all of your sins and have intimacy with him and know him. Repeat this prayer out loud. Dear God.

ANA: Dear God.

SID: I’m a sinner.

ANA: I’m a sinner.

SID: Against you.

ANA: Against you.

SID: And you alone have I sinned.

ANA: And you alone have I sinned.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

ANA: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe the blood of Jesus.

ANA: I believe the blood of Jesus.

SID: Washes away every bad thing I’ve ever done.

ANA: Washes away every bad thing I’ve ever done.

SID: You say you remember it no more.

ANA: You say you remember it no more.

SID: And I’m clean.

ANA: And I’m clean.

SID: It’s so good to be clean.

ANA: It’s so good to be clean.

SID: And now that I’m clean.

ANA: And now that I’m clean.

SID: Jesus, I confess you as my Lord.

ANA: Jesus, I confess you as my Lord.

SID: Lord Jesus, come inside of me.

ANA: Lord Jesus, come inside of me.

SID: Take over my life.

ANA: Take over my life.

SID: Amen.

ANA: Amen.

SID: God says, “I will never leave you or forsake you.” Oh no. We just have about a minute. I want you to pray an impartation, and I’m going to grab into that for being a seer.

ANA: Okay. So if it’s no special formula, but I’ve led people through this so many times. So I just want you, just so you remove distractions, close your eyes right now. Get really still. Father, right now, I thank you that your presence is so thick right now. You are releasing your glory in your presence over each one of us. Now, wherever you are, you’re going to start feeling a tangible presence of God. Lord, I pray right now just the impartation of seer anointing to be released in Jesus’ name. I pray right now that everybody would be able to open their spiritual eyes and your senses would be open to the things of Christ. Now, right now, I see in the spirit a picture of Jesus looking with his eyes and smiling. I see the smile of Christ. Can you see it? Now just wait. Waiting is the hardest part. Just be still and wait.

ANA: Do you feel it? He’s right there. Now your senses and your eyes, you’re going to start seeing in the spirit. Don’t be afraid. Is this me? Is this God? Is this the enemy? Don’t worry. God is good. He is a good God that he will always confirm himself to you in the word. Through prophetic revelations, he will confirm himself, but would you dare right now, dare to believe that what you’re sensing is the real God. You are sensing the tangible presence of God right now come over you. He’s that real, and he’s that close in Jesus’ name. Amen.

SID: That means so be it. It’s done.

Our Guest Kynan Bridges

JOHN:  So I just wanted her to stand here with me. We’ve been married 46 years, we’re in this together.

AUDIENCE:  Whooo! (CLAPPING)

JOHN:  And I want to pray for you to receive that anointing for wealth. Is that all right?

AUDIENCE:  Yes!

JOHN:  I want you to just what Kynan said a while ago, you receive this by faith. I don’t want you to ever again talk about how poor you are, how broke you are, you don’t have enough money, you can’t do it– just shut up, okay? But do keep talking what God says. All right? So lift up your hands to the Lord and receive from the Lord and say this.

[JOHN LEADS AUDIENCE WHO REPEATS AFTER HIM PHRASE BY PHRASE]

Lord God; in the name of Jesus; I believe Your word; that Jesus was made poor; so that we might be made rich; He has completed His work; and I receive that completed work; I declare; by the word of God; I am made rich; I receive an anointing for wealth; and a war chest; in the name of Jesus; the angels are released; to go and bind the strongman; and plunder his house; and bring me the spoils; to me. In the name of Jesus; I am not a thief; I am a tither and a giver; and I’m full of wealth; it comes to me now; in the name of Jesus. So Lord in Jesus name and in the authority to be given to me I declare to the people Lord I release an anointing FOR WEALTH, LORD FOR WEALTH, FOR WEALTH, in the name of Jesus, a new day, the angels are released to bind the strongman and bring us the wealth now, in Jesus name. If you receive it give the Lord a big shout, will you?

AUDIENCE:  (ERUPTS IN SHOUTING)

SID:  I don’t know if you’re sensing what I’m sensing. But there is such a sweet, and that’s the only word I can come up with, such a sweet presence of God in this place. I mean it is like honey. It’s better than honey– Does anyone have a prophetic word that God has given them today, not yesterday, not tomorrow, today, that they feel they should release at this moment? Anyone else? Was there a hand back there too? Okay, would the two people who raised their hand come forward real quickly? Thank you.

WOMAN #1:  Father said to tell you that what He’s brought you into– what He’s brought you into is to take forth this to the nation because He has movement greater than anything that you’ll ever imagine. The harvest is ripe, the workers are few. It’s time to move now. Don’t sit by. Don’t ignore the person on the street. He wants them with Him too. He wants you to move mightily in His name because He has blessings and wholeness for them as well as for you.

SID:  Thank you, thank you. If not now, when? This is such a wonderful that God saw fit for us to be born in. Worst time in history for planet earth, best time in history for those that know His name.

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

WOMAN #2:  Well, I have a lot rolling in me here right now, but I just feel like the Lord is saying: He is bringing the increase that you’ve been asking Him for, so take it and do not go into doubt and unbelief, the Lord says, but stand firm now on this word, do not be moved by circumstances but get My word deep in your spirit, get that living word and I will bring the breakthrough for you as you have asked Me for. I have brought you here sovereignly so hear the word of the Lord for you today. It is increase! It is a new day! You are going to rise up with wings like eagles, the Lord says, no more doubt, no more discouragement. I’m cutting you loose! Be free today, the Lord says. BE FREE!

Our Guest Katie Souza

SID:  I want to state May entertainment Christianity rest in peace. You’ve been commissioned. Anything you see anyone do on TV you can do better. Because you’ve got the better One living in you. You’ve got healed. You’ve been forgiven by the blood. You’ve been healed in your soul. Now go do the works. I commission you to go do the works. I’m going to pray a benediction over you. But I want one more thing. Katie, would you come up here for a minute. And I want this gentleman that I met today, yes you, to come up here.

KATIE:  Did anyone get healed, raise your hand and wave it around. Look at that. Amen. Anybody back here?  Raise your hand really high. Go like this if you got healed. Amen. Amen.

SID:  Okay. Praise God! But guess what? Are any of you in the process of manifesting your healing?

KATIE:  Yeah, there you go. Amen!

AUDIENCE:  [MANY RAISE HANDS].

SID:  C’mon now, if you don’t raise your hand- I mean just like I put a gun in you what would you do? Stick ’em up! Up! That’s it! Good! You learn fast. Now Katie [Yes].- [SID POINTS TO AUDIENCE] and you are no longer an audience. Stretch your anointed hands towards this man. What is she praying for?

MAN[quietly] My colon. My—entire body.

KATIE:  In your what?

SID:  Entire body.

MANMy entire body.

KATIE:  Your entire— amen! Okay. Thank you, God. I heard there is a hidden well of anointing that’s inside of you that hasn’t been able to be opened and it’s full of dunamis.

SID:  HA! HA!

KATIE:  And so I command it to open right now and to flood into your system. See “dunamis” comes from the resurrection but it’s the Holy Spirit that puts us in it. That puts it in us. And so I command that hidden reserve of “dunamis” that’s inside of you that has not opened to open! I said, ‘Open!’ Lift up ye heads O ye ancient gates. Be ye lifted up O ye everlasting doors! OH!! So the King of glory can come in. Who is this King of glory? He is the Lord strong and mighty in battle. Lift up ye heads O ye ancient gates. Be ye lifted up O ye everlasting doors so the King of glory can come in! Who is this King of glory? He is the Lord mighty in battle! Okay, my arms are burning, it’s happening right now, it’s happening right now- right now, flooding every wound. I command that that power would go to every wound that is in connection with the disorder [-KATIE EXCLAIMS-] in the colon, in the name of Jesus. And you serpent you would come out in the Name. That spirit would have to let go because the soul is becoming excellent! Flooded with the blood, flooded with the power. Flooded with the blood-Whoa, the power there. Yeah- Okay, I feel like you must have gotten hot- do you feel a body change, a temperature. Yeah, I feel it here [on head]- Okay, Sid, go ahead.

SID:  The Bible says those who believe, you know that, you believe, I believe, will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. [SID SHOUTS]JESUS!!!

KATIE:  Jesus, amen. Yes. In the name of Jesus, In the name of Jesus. Have you had a biopsy done on it? You did? Okay, so you need to grow a new one?

MANYes.

KATIE:  Creative miracle God. Right now in Jesus name. You know I see bones grow out all the time. Just like the woman bowed over with the spirit of infirmity. That spirit bent her bones. It’s the same thing. If your bones can grow out the colon grows out. It’s the same thing. It’s made of the same type of organic matter. And it’s easy. And so I just decree that she was bent over because she had a wound and she straightened up and so the same thing will happen to you. The wound getting healed and that will allow the creative miracle and the growth to happen. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. In Jesus name. Do we believe God can do it? Let’s give Him a praise, amen?

AUDIENCE:  Yes.  [CLAPS]

SID:  Thank you, Jesus. The Lord, the Lord is blessing you right now! The Lord, the Lord, the Lord, is keeping you right now! The Lord, the Lord is smiling upon you right now! The Lord, the Lord is gifting you right now! The Lord, the Lord is showering you with his favor right now! The Lord, the Lord is giving you his shalom, His completeness in your spirit, in your soul, and in your body right now, in the name that is above every name. In the name that is above every concern. In the name that is above every problem. In the name that is above every thing! Yeshua ha Mashiach, Tsidkenu, Jesus, the Messiah!

Our Guest Guillermo Maldonado

GUILLERMO:  Okay, okay, John you going to pray for him, Frank you going to pray for him. Go, go pray. So I want the people to pray. Stretch your hands to over them. By the way, this is not a show, this is a demonstration of how the kingdom — listen, before you pray guys, can we bring the kingdom here and now?

AUDIENCE:  Yes!

GUILLERMO:  I didn’t hear you.

AUDIENCE:  YES!

GUILLERMO:  Can we bring the kingdom here and now?

AUDIENCE:  YES!

GUILLERMO:  Something historical. No. Can we bring it now?

AUDIENCE:  YES!

GUILLERMO:  Okay, these are 2 of my pastors so I will tell them to pray and let’s believe, let’s believe together, and then after that happens, everybody else is going to get healed. So let’s do it. Can we pray? — c’mon and stretch your hands — If you’re watching me for the school, the training, you do the same in the house. Get somebody, get s body dead from the funeral home, ha, and get ‘em and pray, let’s do it right now, pray in the Holy Ghost. (prays in tongues) Ears are open. Yes, yes, yes (prays in tongues) Test them out. Lift your hands, you lift your hands. I want my team to come over here, please and pray, my team the rest that didn’t come over here, where’s the rest of my team, come over here, pray for the people —  —Where are you? Come over here. What happened?  —What happened?

MINISTRY TEAM MEMBER:  Apostle, the moment I started praying for him I noticed the presence of God was over him so I just finished testing him and he’s hearing me clearly. Jesus has opened his ear!

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPPING)

GUILLERMO:  Okay, so tell me what happened? What did you feel?  —No, I want the people to hear. Sit down. (audience sits)

MAN #1:  Yeah, just the fire of God.

GUILLERMO:  Okay. So how long you’ve been deaf in that ear?

MAN #1:  2006. Yeah.

GUILLERMO:  So 8 years.

MAN #1:  8 years.

GUILLERMO:  Okay, so we brought the kingdom, we brought the kingdom, right? You don’t sound so excited (to audience) C’mon, give Him praise to Jesus.

AUDIENCE:  (Clapping)  Yay!

GUILLERMO:  Respond, all right. All right, all right, all right. What happened with you John? Still working on the miracle. Okay. Let me tell you what happened. If you tried to rationalize and — the intellect is in the middle — how’s he going to do it. Just be crazy, say “Jesus, I’m here.” Okay, you guys I want you to lay hands on your ears and we going to speak the word. What do you mean speaking the word? Well, the anointing sometimes is in your hands but sometimes it’s in your mouth, so right now the anointing is in my mouth. When I command “three” something will open, and if it opens you start jumping. Okay, the moment you need to respond, if you go “Yeah, Jesus, I think I’m healed, yeah, Lord,” no, you go (he jumps up) when something opens you go (jumps) [so] everybody knows you’re healed. We don’t have [enough time] for testimonies to go all over. Are you ready? Can you pray in the Holy Ghost for this man?  C’mon let’s go. Father in the name of Jesus, I give you praise. Let Your kingdom come, let Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. When I count to three, I ask you Jesus “open the ears now.” One, two, three, NOW! There’s the first one, that’s the second one, release your ear, c’mon, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. There’s the second, there you go, there you go that’s the first one, c’mon keep jumping [so] the people know, keep jumping, if you’re healed, c’mon keep jumping, there you go there’s the third one, that’s the fourth one. There you go, open, be open, be open, be open, be open, be healed, be healed. Keep jumping.  —What happened? Keep going. Keep going. Jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. If you’ve been healed I want you to jump — I want you to jump. It’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone, it’s gone. There you go, there you go. In Jesus name, in Jesus name, in Jesus name, in Jesus name. C’mon, are you ready, are you ready? Okay, okay, how many of you something happened to your ear? If you’ve been healed lift your hands, lift your hands if you’ve been healed, both hands, both hands, both hands, okay, both hands, lift your hands please, c’mon, c’mon. Put your hands together people (audience claps) Right here. What about you? Not yet. Huh? You can’t tell? Okay, same thing with you. If it’s quiet you can hear? Okay, can we be quiet? Okay? Don’t look for your sickness. Look for your healing. Many of you are saying “Well, I’m ringing, I’m ringing.” No, look for your healing. So Father, in Jesus, what happened? Still working on the miracle? Okay. So the rest of the people that needs healing in your body, I want you to lift your hands please, I want you to stand. I want you to stand. And this is what we going to do. Don’t move. And this is what we going to do. Say with me “activation.”

AUDIENCE:  Activation.

Our Guest Tom Horn and Cris Putnam

QUESTIONER #7:  Hi. I have recently been told that President Obama made two trips to the Vatican and met with the pope within a thirty day period. And then within ten to fourteen days after that, the pope announced that he was stepping down. Do you know if that’s true?

CRIS:  I haven’t heard anything about that.

TOM:  No. I think I heard some speculation about it on the internet but I have nothing factual.

SID:  —And when he said “on the internet,” a synonym is nothing factual!

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

SID:  One more question?

QUESTIONER #8:  I know many Catholics that believe on, in the Lord Jesus Christ, and a matter of fact I attend the Catholic Church with my family, and the priests talk about a call to holiness, and I’ve actually had some priests say that we need to have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. So even though I have heard of this prophecy as the last pope going rogue and, and falling away, I don’t understand through the early fathers if they’ve been watching this prophecy, how come they didn’t put a stop to it or they’re not aware of it and how, how pervasive it’s gotten, become the evil in the church or the heresy. And I’m not sure what my question is, just other than this is what I’ve seen and I’m curious as to how come they’re not stopping it and preserving the gospel.

TOM:  Uh, well, I’ll take part of that and maybe Cris can add to that. I would say that some of these Catholic leaders have asked the same question. In other words, they’ve said “Why are they not addressing this issue?’ Malachi Martin, the reason he became dis-enfranchised with the Roman Catholic Church, he was a personal friend of John Paul, he worked inside the Vatican, he translated the Dead Sea Scrolls, he was a polyglot, he was a scholar, he could speak 12 languages, he was an important man, and he became disillusioned following Vatican II, which opened the door for a kind of ecumenicalism. And he believed that they had departed the true Catholic faith. And I should tell you that in the beginning of our book, “Petrus Romanus” we make the case that there are many Catholics that we think are going to go to heaven, so this isn’t an anti-Catholic thing. We’re talking about a doctrine. And we’re also talking about institutions, we’re not talking about people, we’re talking about institutions. So that in the same way I can be a patriot, a strong patriot but not be blind to the corruption in my government, a person could be a strong and devout Catholic and still understand that in the institutions, institutions are run by men and if you’re not very careful they can become inherently corruptible. And that’s, that’s part of the problem. There has been a concerted effort to keep it quiet, according to people like Malachi Martin, and even to the point sometimes maybe of murder.

SID:  And let me “p.s.” something. As a new Jewish believer in the Messiah, not knowing anything, I needed to get some mentoring and discipleship. And do you know the group that was the greatest blessing in my life? The Catholic Charismatics. And don’t you try to tell me they were not saved! They were as saved as any protestant that says they’re saved. And I know! And I owe a debt of gratitude because they taught me things of the spirit that I even teach today. Okay, one last question.

AUDIENCE:  (APPLAUDS)

Our Guest Sandra Teplinsky

SANDY:  Right. Right. And as Gentile Christians saw the Jewish people were inter-distancing themselves away from the Gospel, that only fueled the animosity that seemed to be there, so we have church fathers, esteemed church fathers, like the beloved Saint John Chrysostom, who’s venerated by Catholics and Protestants alike, writing venomous, venomous anti-Jewish treatises and stating that the synagogue was worse than a den of thieves, worse than a brothel, and a cave of demons. He made it extremely clear when he wrote, quote, “As for me I hate the synagogue and I hate the Jews.” That not only was he anti-synagogue but he was anti the Jewish people. That’s not God’s heart. Then we have just about a hundred or so years later Emperor Constantine who ruled over the Roman Empire for hundreds of years officially making Christianity the state religion. When he did so, he intentionally distanced himself from any vestiges of anything Jewish from the Hebraic roots of Christianity and imposed that on the Empire as well. He legislated specific anti-Jewish laws designed to isolate and ideally do away with the Jewish people in his Empire and— he wrote this particularly for the church of future generations. He wrote that he hoped it would be his legacy that the church would forever be separated from Israel and from its Jewish roots. And I think that we can say that to a significant degree, that has been the case.

SID:  And the thing that’s so amazing is Jesus is Jewish. When He was nailed to the cross, what did it say? King of the Jews. And— let me ask you this question. These people were intelligent, these church fathers. They loved God in their way, maybe, only God knows that one. What scriptural basis did they have for just denying their Jewish roots?

SANDY: Well, it related more to the way they interpreted the scripture than any particular verse, although they did take different isolated verses throughout the scriptures out of context completely, which is not the Hebraic way of interpreting the Bible at all. Context is everything. They would take—

SID:  That’s what, that’s what causes a lot of bad theology in all areas, when you pull one verse, you don’t look what was before it, you don’t look what was after it, and you come up with anything you want to come up with.

SANDY:  And you build a whole theology and worldview on it. Right. And so they would take verses out of context and attach spiritual, symbolic or allegorical interpretations onto those verses. What I mean by that is that traditionally the way of interpreting scriptures, which Jesus himself and all of the New Testament apostles employed when they penned the scriptures, is to interpret the Bible primarily,  fundamentally according to its straightforward, plain, common sense, ordinary meaning. After that we can see how the Lord puts— uses allegory, uses allegory in His word and we can interpret the word allegorically or symbolically and it’s through an allegorical interpretation many times that we see that believers of all nations enter into the promises that God has given to Israel. But those that adhered to replacement theology and those that were putting forth replacement theology interpreted the scriptures primarily allegorically so that when the Word speaks of Israel it’s taken to mean strictly the Church.

SID:  Well you know I’ve always been taught, Sandy, that if you toss out the literal, then you must take the literal first, before you have the right to take the allegorical. If you don’t do that, then you could take any parable and come up with any theology you want.

Our Guest Perry Stone

Perry: That is also found— exact wording, exact wording— “time, times and dividing of times,” Daniel 7:25. The first place it’s ever found is in Daniel. Hundreds of years later John uses the same term, the angel gives him the same term. Now that “Gog” and “Magog” battle. One of them is Ezekiel 38 and 39 but this one in the Book of Revelation is the same spirit coming out of the pit trying to do another battle against Jerusalem. So “Gog” and “Magog” is mentioned by Ezekiel and mentioned by John in the Book of Revelation. Michael fighting Satan in a cosmic war, Revelation 12 and 7.  Daniel spoke of Michael in Daniel, chapter 12 and verse 1 coming in a day of great trouble. Same, same, same picture here. You have the beast with ten horns, Revelation 13:1. The beast with ten horns in Daniel 7:7, verse 20 and verse 24. The battle of Armageddon, Revelation 16:16. You find that battle mentioned in Zechariah 14, 1, 2 through 3. Now when I tell you Armageddon there, it tells you Armageddon in Revelation 16:16, but it says I gather all nations against Jerusalem. That’s what that battle is. That’s why we know from Zechariah 14 that’s the same battle. The binding of Satan in the abyss or the pit is in Revelation 20:2 through 3. That’s Isaiah’s prediction in Isaiah chapter 14 in verse15. The return of the Messiah to Jerusalem is in Revelation chapters 19 and 20 and you’ll find Zechariah’s prediction actually starting in chapter 12, he speaks of Jerusalem but in Zechariah 14, 4 through 5 this is where the feet of the Lord will stand up on the Mount of Olives eastward in Jerusalem and the mount will cleave in two parts, one part to the east and also one part to the west. So the point I, the point I want to make about this is, and, and please get this kind of in your spirit, as this is just a kind of an introduction to the Book, is that, let’s kind of do a review here. Number one, is let’s look at the author, John. John is an Apostle. John outlived all the other Apostles. John wrote the Book in about 95 A.D. John wrote it from the Isle of Patmos. It was a series of visions. Some people think that John actually didn’t get it all at one time because he said “after this I saw,” then he says “after this I saw.” That he may have a got a few chapter and then after this he saw something else. Others— I kind of tend to believe this— I kind of believe it happened at one time. You know someone said to me ‘now wait a minute, how can a guy have a vision like that and remember it?” Are you kidding me? Are you absolutely kidding me? I mean if you have a vision of the throne of God and you’re standing there— do you think you— what’d you do— I had a vision last night. What was it? I don’t know. Something about God. I can’t remember what it was. You kidding me? Are you kidding me? I would, I would look at that thing and tell you what shoes He was wearing, you know. I mean this is something a real vision like he had gets in your spirit so deep, “cause I’ve had ‘em before, that you can recall details if it impresses in your spirit. The other thing you got to remember it’s the Holy Spirit who recalls things to your remembrance. You know because you got your critics out there “Well how could a man remember that long?” Well just because you ain’t got a good memory doesn’t mean John didn’t have one! You know? And the Jews, the Jews back then were taught to memorize. You have to understand that we’re not taught that today. We memorize for a test and then we forget everything. But back then they rehearsed it over and over and over again. Oh my, man I feel His presence talking about this Book! Hallelujah! All right. Now I’m going to, I’m going to just take just a couple more things here that I feel like I want to share with you. Let me go back to again something that has always been a question and this question always comes up, uh, and they will say to me “Where do you place the return of the Lord for the church?” Okay? Where do you place the return? Let’s go back again. The Lord says to John I want to show you the things that were, that are, and that will be. Future tense. So if he writes this in 95 A.D., chapter 1 he sees Christ as the High Priest, right? Christ then is doing something. He’s addressing 7 churches. You all want to know the nugget from the Temple days?