Our Guest Tom Horn

TOM: So I believe it in all my heart I will look you in the eye and give you a new prediction like I did when I told you the Pope was going to resign and everybody said it would never happen. In April of 2029, and Apophis is going to strike the earth.

SID: Oh, I’ll tell you what, Tom has good reasons to believe that this asteroid is a cosmic cover-up of end time magnitude. Be right back.

SID: You know what you believed from the vision. You know what you believed from the Bible, Revelation 8, but what if an expert in astronomy were to look at Revelation 8. You talked to one. Tell me what they said.

TOM: Yeah, actually I had two different astronomers telling me that I wasn’t even reading Revelation 8 correctly, that the first four trumpets are the four stages of a singular event. Trumpet number one sounds and fire falls down from heaven and sets the fields and trees on fire. That’s the first debris that’s being pushed out ahead of an incoming asteroid. Trumpet number two sounds and a giant stone burning like a lamp falls into the sea and wipes out the ships, and this is a breaking up of a binary asteroid or a giant asteroid, like Apophis. Trumpet number three sounds, and this is the one that’s actually named Wormwood that contaminates a third of the Earth’s waters and many people die as a result of it. And then trumpet number four sounds and a third part of the stars and the sun and the moon are darkened, which is the result of all, and again, exactly what I saw when I didn’t even understand what I was looking at. All this debris rising up into the jet stream, getting spread around the earth and blocking out a huge portion of the sunlight.

TOM: It’s all a singular event as a result of an incoming massive stone, which is what Apophis is.

SID: Yeah. Speaking of a massive stone, give me some of the facts about how large it’ll be and some of the facts about Apophis.

TOM: Yeah, it was discovered at the Kitt Peak National Observatory, 2004 that’s when NASA named it Apophis. It is 370 meters wide or 1200 foot wide or four NFL football fields wide. It weighs an estimated 20 million metric tons. It is traveling—

SID: 20 million?

TOM: 20 million. It’s traveling at 28,000 miles per hour, and I’m telling you it’s going to hit the earth. Here’s what scientists say. If it does, and this is NASA’s experts, if it does hit the earth, mapping, by the way technology tells him, it’ll probably come down somewhere around the border of Mexico and California. So a highly densely populated area. Another NASA scientists said, think of it this way, take every nuclear warhead that is on earth today. China, America, Russia, everybody put them in one place and let them go off all at one time. And that’s what’s going to happen when Apophis strikes the earth.

SID: My goodness. Well, why do you say it’s a massive cover up?

TOM: Yeah. Well, so my friend at NASA, he was the one that put me on the trail. They don’t want this information getting out any sooner than it’s going to. By 2025 people will be able to look up in space and see this with their home telescopes, fairly sophisticated telescopes. Two years after that, they’ll be able to look up in space and see it with the naked eye. By that time, there’s going to be mass chaos and panic. So right now they’re doing mitigation efforts in the background, which we can talk about this as part of Trump’s space force, trying to figure out a way that they can stop this from impacting the earth.

SID: Now since this vision, since you’ve had astronauts and scientists describe what you saw, [how] you look at scripture is very different.

Our Guests Tony Kemp

TONY:  Here it comes. Three, two, one. There’s the anointing for it. That’s it. Take it. One guy needs to stay with her. What is happening with you? Stand sideways. Show æem how tight it was? Tell the truth. Where was it before?

Woman #9:  It fit perfect.

TONY:  And now?

WOMAN #9:  It’s loose, and it’s loose in the back. (laughing)

TONY:  It really wasn’t— It wasn’t that loose before?

WOMAN #9:  No.

TONY:  Are you telling me it was a little tighter?

WOMAN #9:  Yes. It fit perfectly. Now I can pull it back far.

TONY:  You couldn’t do that before for real?

WOMAN #9:  No.

TONY:  Somebody oughta give the Lord a praise!

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

TONY:  Come over here and stand. I need a man to stand behind her. We’re gonna pray. Do you want to lose some more?

WOMAN #9:  Yes.

TONY:  Say “Jesus touch me.”

WOMAN #9:  Jesus touch me.

TONY:  Okay, I release it. There it is. Oh my, take it.

WOMAN #10:  My blouse got looser first.

TONY:  First?

WOMAN #10:  First.

TONY:  That means something else getting ready to go on.

WOMAN #10:  And my pants they were already loose when I got here but they’re looser. I can feel it in the back.

TONY:  You can feel it in the back. They’re looser?

WOMAN #10:  They’re looser. But it’s mostly here in my blouse.

TONY:  Are you happy about that?

WOMAN #10:  I’m happy.

TONY:  (Laughing) I can’t help it, okay? I’m just gonna, I’m gonna have some fun. Okay? Are you ready to lose some more?

WOMAN #10:  Yes, sir.

TONY:  Umm, I feel like about 15 or 20. Are you ready? 

WOMAN #10:  I’m ready.

TONY:  She’s committed. Stretch forth your hand. Here comes the miracle power. There it is. 15 or 20 more pounds. Receive it. Anybody else? Check yourself. Come. Come, come, come, come. Yeah, sister you can, you can go and give us some room. But you— listen, you’re actually gonna get looser tonight. What, sister, what has happened?

WOMAN #11:  Right here, it’s starting back here.

TONY:  It’s looser?

WOMAN #11:  Yes, yes, back here.

TONY:  Is it a little bit looser or starting to get quite a bit looser?

WOMAN #11:  Uh, well it could be looser. Let’s pray—

TONY: You want it to be more looser? So it starting to loosen up? You’re kind of like that guy over there, things are breaking—

TONY:  You ready? Jesus. Okay. There it is. There’s the anointing. Take it. There it is. I release the miracle of supernatural weight loss into my sister’s body. Now when I take my hand off of you the Holy Spirit’s coming upon you. Yes, sir. What has happened?

MAN #4:  You made a comment a minute ago and I just felt some pressure leave right here. (laughing)

AUDIENCE AND

TONY:  (LAUGHING)

TONY:  Look at somebody and say “Pressure is leaving.”

AUDIENCE:  Pressure is leaving.

TONY:  Look at somebody and say “Supernatural weight loss by the loss of pressure.”

AUDIENCE:  Supernatural weight loss by the loss of pressure.

MAN #4:  Humble is the way! 

Our Guests John Veal

SID: When Mary Baxter prayed over you, you received something special and when you pray for deliverance in a corporate setting, have you ever seen almost everyone gets set free in a congregation?

JOHN: Yes, it’s happened to me two times. It was totally amazing. Didn’t touch anyone. Just spoke deliverance and people just started falling out and manifesting. Even the elders that were helping them, they were falling out as well.

SID: Do people know if they have demons?

JOHN: I believe some do and some don’t. I was doing a deliverance class and one of my members of my church, she came and said, “look, I don’t need to come to the deliverance class.” She said, “I only have one demon”. And I say, “that’s one demon too many. You don’t want any demons.”

SID: Tell me about the woman. Just read the intro of your brand new book and what happened.

JOHN: That was amazing. She came to our church and she purchased the book and she went home and just read the introduction and the first chapter. She wrote on my Facebook page, she wrote in saying that she got total deliverance just by reading those two chapters. It amazed me.

SID: You see why the devil did not want that book? I mean that’s a freedom book. Yes. Did you feel the glory of God at all when you were doing this?

JOHN: I did. I did, and the glory was more evident through the resistance because I believe that when you are facing a lot of resistance, God is in that thing. And you have to keep going and push forward. Too many people face resistance and they stop going, but that’s when I go hard even more. David ran at Goliath, he didn’t run from Goliath. He ran at Goliath first, so a lot of times we have to run after the devil and get him on the run instead of him having us on the run.

SID: You know what I believe? I believe once the devil becomes convinced you’re never going to give up. He goes and looks for someone else. That’s what I’m convinced.

JOHN: I would say the devil fights hard, but he doesn’t fight long.

SID: I like that. You teach a lot about how to protect our anointing oil with the Holy Spirit. What, what do you mean by that? Explain that.

JOHN: Well, one definition of anointing is effectiveness. So the devil wants to stop our effectiveness, so he’ll do whatever he can do. So we really need to guard our oil, our anointing so he doesn’t discover the secret to our effectiveness. A lot of times we talk about anointing and you need anointing for different things. Revival, for breakthrough, for healing. And once the enemy finds that secret out, he’ll start planning and plotting against you. That’s why sometimes it’s better to be quiet than to really talk a lot. You don’t want the enemy to hear you. The plans and strategies God has downloaded specifically to you in order to tear down his kingdom. So I believe that again, it goes back to effectiveness. God has given us oil to be effective and the devil doesn’t want that.

SID: You say that every believer [has] a right to divine wholeness and healing. Every believer.

JOHN: Yes, yes.

SID: Explain.JOHN: I did a study and I looked at how people were healed and I learned that the people that decreed the thing got healed. Instead of asking questions, instead of asking for healing. I went to the Centurion soldier. He said, “speak the word only and my service should be made holy.” He told that to Jesus and it happened. The woman with the issue of blood, she said, “if I may touch to hem of his garment, I’ll be made whole.” And she did it. And that’s what happened. And even blind Bartimaeus, he said, “Oh, son of David have mercy on me.” Statement. Decree. He got healed. He got healed. He got his sight back. So what I learned is that we have to do it by faith. Job 22 and 28 says, if you decree a thing it is established. So I’m learning that we have to decree him because it’s something that belongs to us. Healing is the children’s bread. We have it. It’s a promise of God. So what we have to decree it by faith. And it will start to manifest in our bodies.

Our Guest Donna Rigney

SID: What difference would it make if the parents, rather than those word curses that they don’t even understand that have so much power, so much supernatural power, what if they blessed their children?

DONNA: Their children would be free. Their children would be blessed. Their children would receive the blessings that are in heaven, that God stored up in heaven, that he wants to come down to the earth and their children would have those blessings on them.

SID: Look, there is so much to learn from the revelations she got in hell, but even greater the revelations she got in heaven. One of my favorite places that you talk about is the Hall of Miracles, but tell me as you were entering, tell me about those body parts you saw.

DONNA: All right. This place in heaven that’s called the Hall of Miracles is probably my favorite place to go to. When I was in heaven—

SID: It would be my favorite.

DONNA: And it is an enormous hall, miles and miles long, and it’s gold, gold floor with beautiful chandeliers, there’s all diamonds hanging from the whole ceiling. And down this hall, there are doorways, all doorways. And so the Lord brought me there and I said, “Can I go in and see what’s in the doorways?” And he said, “Sure, you can go in.” So I went in the first doorway, the first doorway on the left was a room full of body parts. There were legs, there were arms, there were eyeballs, there were ears. There were all the things that God’s children here on the earth would need. He’s got them there in this room ready. At the great revival that’s coming, he’s going to empty that room and it will be pulled to the earth.

SID: [crosstalk]

DONNA: Oh, for sure, for sure. But what he showed me is we don’t have to wait for the revival. If we pray, if we live in intimate fellowship with him, if we turn from our wicked ways, stop sinning, live holy lives, we can ask him for those things, not just for ourselves, for others too. And he said, if we would do that, we would keep his angels busy day and night, bringing those treasures that are in the hall of miracles to the earth now.

SID: I mean you met so many places that you saw that intrigue me. I’d like to talk about your mansion because… But we don’t have time on that. But tell me about the room of golden fishing nets.

DONNA: Yes. This was down the hall of miracles. In this room that the Lord brought me into there were beautiful gold fishnets all over the room and he said, “I’m getting ready to release these fishnets to the earth and these are going to be sent to those that I found faithful.” He tests his children and he sees who’s faithful to him. Who is diligent, who’s responsible, who will do the right thing when nobody’s looking? Those are the ones, okay? That are faithful in the few he’s going to send these fishnets to and they’re going to be used to bring in the end time harvest. He said, “You will not be drawing in material things with these fish nets. You are going to bring souls into my kingdom.”

Our Guest Tracy Cooke

TRACY: If I told you that God’s going to start breaking the finances open for you, there’s been financial struggles. There’s an angel over you. Sir lift your hands, God’s healing you. You’ve been having a problem with your shoulder area. Is it Dustin?

Dustin: Yes.

TRACY: Your name is Dustin?

SID: You don’t know him.

TRACY: I don’t know, this is the first time-

SID: Do you know him?

Dustin: I do not.

SID: Now you know him, he knows your name.

TRACY: Dustin.

Dustin: Yes.

TRACY: You are a contractor. I see contracting all around you like buildings and stuff like that. Like utility, like contract work, there’s an increase that’s coming. There was an accident you was involved with and God said to tell Dustin that the attack is over and the curse is broken and God’s going to move in your life, your darkest days are behind you. The last three years have been hard in your life.

Dustin: Yeah.

TRACY: 8631.

Dustin: 8631.

TRACY: Is that your address?

Dustin: Yep.

TRACY: Almost like Country Line Drive.

Sierra: County Line Road.

TRACY: County Line Road.

TRACY: If I pronounce your name right, it’s an S, Sierra.

Sierra: Yes sir.

TRACY: What is your name?

Sierra: Sierra.

TRACY: Sierra Dawn.

Sierra: Yes.

SID: Do you see why I’m in awe?

TRACY: Your name is Sierra Dawn Kelso.

Sierra: Yes.

TRACY: Kelso.

TRACY: You’re Dustin Wayne.

Dustin: Yes.

TRACY: Lift up your hands, God’s healing you. God bless you. He’s giving your home a miracle. God’s touching your children. The last three years have been hard, but the last three years God’s going to turn your life around. Dustin, Sierra, God said it’s over. We’re done rebuking the devil. You’re healed, darling, in your lower abdomen area around your female organs, you’ve been having … isn’t that right?

Sierra: I have scoliosis in my hips.

TRACY: And I’d seen that God, he’s moving it right, you see where my hand is at. It’s right there?

Sierra: Yes.

TRACY: You’re not going to have that anymore. You can get back to your doctor and he’ll confirm the miracle.

SID: I notice you like to confirm miracles.

SID: Have doctors confirmed them? That’s important to you.

TRACY: Well to me it is very important and I often tell people, I have people in my revival, when I’m heeling, I know I’m heeling. I said, “That’s great. Now go back to your doctors and let it confirm, because God’s not intimidated with doctors, he made them. So that’s verified what God is doing. That’s verified of what he’s doing, not one man is doing. Get your eyes off of man. Get it on the Lord.

SID: Now I wanted to do that just as a foretaste. I mean we’ve got too much to cover on this program. So do you want to hear more from Tracy? Would you like Tracy to minister to you watching at home as well as in our TV studio audience? Then simply go to sidroth.org/cooke for the extended version of this program. Again, that’s sidroth.org/cooke.

SID: And I have to tell you something. The reason for you to see a demonstration of the power of God is to believe God is bigger than you ever thought. The reason for you to see this is so that you can first have your own intimacy with God, your own experiential knowledge of God, because to know him is everything, and everything without knowing him is nothing. Amen.

Our Guest Patricia King

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Patricia King and her world, what is normal in her world is seeing angels, miracles, visions being transported in the spirit. But you know what, Patricia, that is normal in the Bible and maybe, just maybe, the whole world has to be normal.

PATRICIA: Amen.

SID: Now, Patricia, your new book Accessing the Riches of Heaven. When I hear riches, I think about money. I think about, “Oh, it’s how to become a millionaire, your book.” But you said, “Huh.” That’s not what you mean by riches.

PATRICIA: It’s actually far from it. Even though God doesn’t mind giving people money. It’s just basically paper. Earthly currency is very fickle. It’s actually, it’ll go up in value one day, down the next, be worthless the next. We cannot put our trust in it, but heavenly riches is way beyond anything that is in this world. Any monetary value that we can put on things. It includes provision, of course, and God wants us to have an abundance of provision for our lives to perform his will, but it’s about like the riches of his wisdom, the riches of his health, his strength, his vitality, his revelation, his goodness, his presence. And it’s so much more.

But it’s all available to us. That when Jesus died on the cross, he actually gave us all that he is and all that he has was made available to us. And so when we explore the riches in heaven because God says, “I want you to live on Earth. I want you to experience on Earth as it is in heaven.” So when we explore what he has for us in the heavenly places, knowing that we can operate in these things in the Earth through a faith connection, it just changes your world. And I love the book because it goes into so many aspects, not only of what riches are, but how to access them.

SID: The true riches. Give me a good example, that little crippled girl in Africa.

PATRICIA: Yeah. I love this story because we were in Africa. I was staying at a mission home and a father brought his little girl in his arms, carrying her, and she was I would say about four or five years of age. So she was waiting. He carries her and she had never walked, he said she’s never walked. And I looked at her legs and they were all twisted and she had never been able to walk because she was born like that. And I’m going to be honest with you, I struggle to have the faith to see them straight, but he was just so desperate for his little girl.

But one thing I did know, I knew that God could do it. I just wasn’t sure he could do it through me. And I laid hands on her and I was just obedient to the word. It says, Lord, you say, “Lay hands on the sick. They shall recover. You’re a miracle working God. We need one now.” And she started to wiggle. Honestly, I didn’t think a miracle was even taking place yet, but the father started showing delight in his face. He put his little girl down and all of a sudden she’s walking perfectly. It just felt so natural and there she was. She was running around and walking and her father was weeping. Now to that family, no money value can be put on that miracle. That was true riches in heaven.

SID: But you had the privilege of going to the treasury room in heaven.

PATRICIA: Yeah. That wasn’t that long ago either. I was in a worship service and the Lord took me into an encounter with him and I was at a doorway that was open and I felt the invitation of the Lord to go in. The first thing, it came in three levels of revelation. The first thing I saw, like the walls, the floor, the ceiling was like see-through gold as far as you could see. Pure, pure gold. You couldn’t see an end to it, but I knew it was wall, ceiling and floor and I was amazed. I was standing there amazed in awe and then I saw it in the middle of the room, a wooden chest. It was a rough wood that was saturated with, I believe it was blood, because it was scarlet in color. And then these coins that emanated light just filling it. And I knew in the spirit that I had access to that and so I was in awe of that.

But, then Jesus was revealed in the vision. He was standing just behind the chest, a little bit to the side, and I looked at him and he was so radiant and so amazing that everything else I saw paled in comparison, even though I was awestruck by every phase of it, until Jesus came. And then I realized what God was showing me is that Jesus himself is a treasure and you cannot compare anything to him. But when you have him, you have it all.

Our Guest Dr. Francis Myles

FRANCIS: He said, “Listen, I want to make amends.”
I want to make amends.

FRANCIS: And he said, “Here is what I’m going to do.” And he begins to spew out, what was in the divine restraining order.

FRANCIS: He says, “I promise you, whenever I come to take the children now, I will not bring this woman with me. She will remain behind, I’ve already told her, you don’t deserve to relive the affair. Number two, I am so sorry for the verbally abusive I’ve been towards you. I am, sorely. I’ll never do it again.” He says, “Number three, you’ve been trying to take the children out of state. You have my permission to take them out of state.
Less than 48 hours.

SID: In the book you talk about a man, from Germany, leaves his wife, his daughter, goes to another country. Tell me about that restraining order.

FRANCIS: Yes, there’s, a woman, who hears about me, teaching. I was doing an online Bible study on, Issuing Divine Restraining Orders from the Courts of Heaven, and she happened to, logging into the core from Germany. As soon as she heard me teach on restraining orders, she began to cry. She realized this was the missing link. She had tried everything, Sid. Her husband had left, overnight, without even telling her. She came home to a note, that told her, “I’m done with the marriage.” And, he left her and the daughter and went to another European country, and then a couple months later, the proceeding for divorce, began to happen, within the German court systems. For a year she has not heard from him, she didn’t even know where he is.

But when she, went before, to the mass, I followed by the Holy spirit, to go before the court, by myself, using the little I had about who you taught me, and I asked my heavenly father, the righteous judge, for a restraining order against a spirit, that is behind my husband not wanting to be, the King and the prophet and the priest of our family.
She said, “Within 24 hours, he has not called me in almost 12 months. He calls me and he’s crying on the other side of the phone.” He said, to the wife, “I’m so sorry. I abandoned you. If it’s okay with you, if you can still have me, I want to come back for you, because I really want to become the husband I should have been. I am so sorry.” She said, “Please come.” Right now, he’s in Germany, it’s like they’re having a honeymoon again. The man is, everything a husband should be.

SID: One of the, so helpful things, in your book beyond, someone has to read it, to get this revelation deep within them. The teaching. Because the teaching is revelation itself.

FRANCIS: That’s right.

SID: But, then you have, 18 prayers for 18 different things that people, may need restraining orders for. Tell me some of those prayers. What do they cover?

FRANCIS: Oh my God, we’ve got a prayer, for releasing divine restraining orders, against premature death. And, then we’ve got a prayer against, restraining witchcraft. We’ve got a prayer, for restraining the spirit of terrorism. We’ve got prayers for, restraining covenant, marriage breakers. This thing is loaded and what we have done, is, I wanted to make sure, Sid, that people’s journey to the court of heaven, is successful. That was important to me, because I know God does not bend, at the whim, of human emotion. God is God, and God always wants what he wants. You can’t manipulate God by emotion, but you can move Him by the word.

So we made sure that the prayers were, for lack of a better word, foolproof, that they are written in such a way that when you go to the court of heaven, it won’t be a journey in vain. When you come back, the restraining order will be issued. And that’s why people are getting these answers to prayer, just like that.

SID: I want to pray, that your start, would be to have every one of your sins, washed away. I want you to say this prayer. I want this to be a new beginning for you, but I want you to have your own encounter with God. I want you to open the door, with your own mouth, repeat this prayer, and mean it, to the best of your knowledge. Repeat this after me. Dear God.

Audience: Dear God.

SID: I’ve committed many sins.

Audience: I’ve committed many sins.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe.

Audience: I believe.

SID: The blood of Jesus.

Audience: The blood of Jesus.

SID: Washes them the way.

Audience: Washes them away.

SID: And God.

Audience: And God.

SID: You have no memory of them anymore.

Audience: You have no memory of them anymore.

SID: And I’m clean.

Audience: And I’m clean.

SID: And now that I’m clean.

Audience: And now that I’m clean.

SID: Make my body.

Audience: Make my body.

SID: The temple.

Audience: The temple.

SID: Of your Holy spirit.

Audience: Of your Holy spirit.

SID: Jesus, come inside of me.

Audience: Jesus, come inside of me.

SID: I call you Lord.

Audience: I call you Lord.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: Unfortunately, there’s not enough time, for Pastor Francis to pray for you in the courts of heaven. So to see the last part of this show, go to, SidRoth.org/Myles, right now.

Our Guest Becky Dvorak

SID: Now what Becky loves to do, she knows how to do it the hard way. She doesn’t wish that on anyone.


BECKY: No, I don’t.


SID: Her heart’s desire is to train you. Tell me about the parents of the three year-old girl that you trained.


BECKY: Yes. I receive prayer requests all the time from people and I try to answer them the best I can. And there was a couple in the United States and the man’s name is Victor and they have a three year-old little girl. And the little girl was suffering for seven months already with epileptic seizures and they were just very bad seizures and no medication, nothing was working for her. And he cried out to in desperation and he asked me to pray for him. So I prayed for him. This is online. And I prayed for him and then I gave him direction. “Now I need you to renounce the spirit of death and release the spirit of life.” And part of what I taught him to do is what I teach people when it comes to epileptic seizures, which can be very deadly.


I told him in the name of Jesus, you go in with your words and prophesy over that brain and in Jesus’ name we supernaturally erase every pathway that those seizures are following. And we declare the word of the Lord and it may not re-dig anymore pathways for these seizures to follow, because in Jesus’ name that spirit of death, that premature death, that epileptic spirit is gone in her, in Jesus’ name. And so I told–


SID: I tell you what, just as you’re saying that I feel like something good is going on.


BECKY: Amen. Amen. The word never returns void. Amen. And so I told him, “Just start speaking this no matter what it looks like. I don’t care how many seizures she has in front of you. You just keep quoting it out loud.” And seven days later he wrote me and he said, “I have a testimony to share with you, and it happened right away, but I waited for a full week before I contacted you again. She has never had one more seizure. It’s gone.”


SID: You know.


BECKY: Amen.


SID: This woman has been taught, personally taught by God to teach others and I think it’s so wonderful. You’ve written the prayers out for different types of diseases. There are people watching I believe even in a hospital room and other places right at this moment, and they’re battling the same thing you’re talking about, a spirit of death, would you look at them and give them advice? Be their coach right now.


BECKY: Right now in Jesus’ name, I say, never give up no matter how bad that situation looks, no matter how bad the medical report is, you never give up. You have to learn how to choose to live, choose to fight and choose to win. And so you lay your hand on yourself right now and you renounce spirit of death. You renounced that sickness and you’ll command it out of your body in the name of Jesus, and then you release the spirit of life and the healing power of the Holy Spirit to flow into your body. But first of all, you cannot give up. You have to choose to live and you have to choose to fight.


SID: I have been reading the reports of people that sit under your teaching. Let me ask you this, you’re driving, I guess, towards Guatemala and there was a crazy man driving a truck. Tell me about that story.


BECKY: Yes. This happened many years ago in our early years of living in Guatemala and we were driving through Mexico on our way to Guatemala. And we were on this trucker’s route. It’s by the Gulf of Mexico and they’re really crazy drivers at that point, anyway, it’s all hill country. And it was clear for me to make this pass. And so I’m going along and all of a sudden this man in this semi-truck looks down and I think because he saw I was a woman driving this car and at that time it wasn’t very common there. And he saw me and he started to laugh at me. He stepped on the pedal. So he went faster and faster and I’m telling you-


SID: And you’re trying to.


BECKY: I’m trying to pass.


SID: And he’s going faster than you.


BECKY: Up in the distance I see over on top of the other hill another semi-truck coming over the hill. And the guy can see it coming and he’s laughing away at me and I’m going as fast as I can and there’s nothing I can do. In the natural, there’s no way of escape. This man, I just have to say, just had the spirit of death over him and just this murderous type of spirit came over him and this semi coming over the hill, it’s coming down and that semi is picking up speed. And I didn’t know anything that I know today. I just knew I had a God that loved me and cared for me. And this was not of God, this was purely of Satan. That’s all I knew at that point in life.


And this semi is coming and it’s coming and it’s sounding its horn and all I know, Sid, is I saw the brightest, widest glorious light and it was just a big flash of light. And the next thing I knew, we were far ahead of this man as if nothing had ever happened and there was no explanation for it other than what I read in the Bible about being translated.


SID: What actually happens, do you know what actually happens when you die? Becky died and she’s going to explain what happens. Be right back.

Our Guest Robin McMillan

SID: Robin, is there a hope for the United States of America?

ROBIN: I have absolutely no doubt, as I sit here, that God has to pour out his spirit in our nation in an unprecedented way. And here’s why I believe that, first of all, the gospel tells us that the harvest is the end of the age. There’s a harvest yet to come. The Bible also tells us in Romans chapter 11 all Israel shall be saved. That indicates another massive evangelism among the Jews. The Bible also tells us in Amos that we will have an unprecedented harvest to gathering all the Gentiles who are called by God’s name in a time where there’s an outpouring of the intoxicating power of the spirit and it must happen in the season where the Jewish people were brought back to their homeland, never to be displaced again.

I believe in a harvest for the United States and an outpouring in the United States because of a number of prophetic revelations I’ve had. And because of the very nature of God, when there’s gross darkness, he will bring bright light. And I will say this too, during the Jesus movement, our nation was turned upside down. And if you look at society, if you look at the social conditions today, they are identical now, as to that era where God moved mightily in our nation, he is going to move again.

SID: You know, like most revelations, they are so profound, yet they’re very simple.

ROBIN: Yeah.

SID: And actually, in studying your materials and hearing you speak I don’t know why we don’t understand it, but we don’t.

ROBIN: Yeah.

SID: Tell me about the wagon of hope.

ROBIN: Well, there’s a Bible translation called the Wuest Translation.

SID: One of my favorites.

ROBIN: And Romans chapter eight begins this way, “for we are saved in the sphere of hope.”

SID: Hmm.

ROBIN: Sid the truth is, the hope of God and God Romans 15:13, “now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy spirit.” There is no one, if you said, tell me what verse do you know about hope, they’d say hope deferred makes the heart sick. I think that’s ridiculous. No one can defer your hope but you. The devil can’t, circumstance can’t. You have in your power to maintain hope but because you were born again into a sphere of hope and Christ, the hope of glory lives inside us.

SID: All right, but wait a second, there are people where the rubber meets the road, so to speak, that are watching us right now, listening to us, viewing us right now and they say, but you don’t know about my kid who is in prison for drugs.

ROBIN: Right, right.

SID: You don’t about my wife who’s having an affair with one of my best friends.

ROBIN: Right.

SID: Or you don’t know about the diagnosis I just got.

ROBIN: For those of you who have suffered, your children a mess, maybe your marriage is in trouble. Maybe things are going on in your community and you have no answer for. Let me say this to you. The Lord says, is there anything too hard for me? I release to you authority to speak into every one of those situations and a grace to believe that the God of the whole earth will come to your aid and answer your question. He loves you. He knows what’s going on. He’s looking for people that will cooperate with him to release that power, to change those situations.

Here’s the thing Sid, we all have challenges. For instance, even the great prophet, Jeremiah, suffered with hopelessness.

SID: You were telling me in the dressing room before the show.

ROBIN: Yes.

SID: Just a few lines from the book of Jeremiah, and they just literally, I believe that as you teach just a few minutes on that it’s going to inject supernatural hope into people.

ROBIN: Well the first thing we need to realize that hope[lessness] is a consequence and not a cause. It’s a delusion it’s the consequence of an inaccurate belief system. And so, in Jeremiah 15, Jeremiah makes an accusation against the Lord. He says, “are you like waters that fail, that streams that cease? Are you unfaithful?” And here’s what the Lord says, and you find it the clearest in the amplified translation. Therefore, thus says the Lord to Jeremiah, “if you return and give up this mistaken tone of distrust and despair, then I will give you again, a settled place of safety and quiet and you will be my minister. And if you separate the precious from the vile, cleansing your own heart from unworthy, unwarranted suspicions concerning my faithfulness, you shall be my mouthpiece.” Now listen Sid–

SID: Isn’t that strong?

ROBIN: There are pastors all over the world, who have ceased to have the authority as one of God’s ministers and one of God’s mouthpieces because, they have yielded to a mistaken tone of distrust and despair. You know what God’s remedy for it was?

SID: What?

ROBIN: Give it up.

SID: That’s simple.

ROBIN: Give it up, disagree with it. Then he said, I will make you my mouthpiece. God does not want hopeless people speaking for him, Sid. He says, if you will cleanse your own heart from unworthy, unwarranted suspicions concerning my faithfulness, you will be my mouthpiece.

SID: And by the way, that’s not just for pastors.

ROBIN: That’s for everybody.

SID: That’s for you, that’s for me, that’s for everyone. I mean, when you come to your senses and realize what Robin just taught. It’s a deception. And if Jeremiah, the great Jewish prophet could be deceived, no wonder, cut it out.

ROBIN: That’s right, I heard that, I got it, yeah. And if he read the rest of the bucket book of Jeremiah, he made the turn. He made the turn.

SID: When you’re going to make the turn, as a matter of fact, I want you to make a turn right now. I want you to make sure that you don’t have to have the Jesus of religion.

ROBIN: Come on.

SID: That you have the Jesus of your own personal, intimate relationship with the God of love.

ROBIN: Yes!

SID: Pure Love.

ROBIN: Yes.

SID: Not human love, not a love that is fickle, but someone that is pure, unadulterated love. Say this prayer out loud. I want it to be a new beginning for you, that you would make a mega jump in knowing God. Say this out loud, Dear God, I’m a sinner, against you and you alone have I sinned, and I’m so sorry. I believe the blood of Jesus washes away my sins and according to your word, I’m clean. It feels so good to be clean and now that I’m clean, Jesus come and live inside of me.

ROBIN: Yes, yes Lord.

SID: I make you my Lord. I want an experience with you. Amen. Robyn, I want you to pray for are an injection of supernatural hope, and I say—your hopelessness is a delusion.

ROBIN: Yes.

SID: Cut it out.

ROBIN: Go ahead, pray that.

SID: Give it up! We release the faith and the power, in the name of Jesus, to give up despair, to give up delusion and to give up hopelessness and call it what it is. It’s a lie, it’s not the heart of God. The mercy of God is present now to impart into you, to give you an infusion of faith, to give you an infusion of hope that will transform not just you but your family. It has the capacity to change your region, your neighborhood, even your nation, because the power of God is not hindered because Jesus is alive. He rose from the dead and he reigns forever. Amen and amen.

Our Guest Stephanie Schureman

BOB: Welcome back to Something More. I’m your host, Bob Duvall, here with Stephanie Schureman. And before we took the break, Stephanie, we were talking about how busy you were. I’m sure you still are.

STEPHANIE: [Laughs]

BOB: But you were raising six kids, and you didn’t feel like you even had the ability to spend the time to hear Jesus.

STEPHANIE: Correct.

BOB: I’m sure that had to be extremely frustrating.

STEPHANIE: Yeah.

BOB: So, what happened that you got your breakthrough?

STEPHANIE: Well, as you know, when you’re a mother or any kind of a parent, the next thing is an emergency. So, the diaper needs to be changed. The next meal needs to be fixed.

BOB: Right. Right.

STEPHANIE: Just everything. There just doesn’t seem to be a minute of the day many times that goes by where you have time to, actually, do anything, let alone think or pray. And so, one day I was feeling this way. I was completely frustrated. I was beyond – What I wanted to do was get everything done, and then spend time with the Lord.

BOB: Right.

STEPHANIE: That never happened. I did it over and over and over, and it never happened. It was never a possibility. So, this particular day I went down to my laundry room, and I saw the piles of laundry, and I –

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: And I just laid my head over onto my big, huge pile of laundry. And I just began to weep. And I said, “Lord, I will never have time. There’s just not enough time to ever spend with you. How am I ever going to do that?” And it was almost like as I breathed in the Lord said, “I want to do it with You.”

BOB: Mmm.

STEPHANIE: And it just broke. Everything broke right there. I began to weep. I said, “Lord, I want to do this with You, too.” [laughs]

BOB: Yeah.

STEPHANIE: And so from that moment on, everything I did, it didn’t matter if I was changing diapers, cleaning the floor,  the most mundane tasks became extremely important. Because I was doing those things with the Lord.

BOB: Mm.

STEPHANIE: And that’s how many times we think of ministry as being in front of a lot of people. But, no. Ministry is right in your home doing the most mundane tasks. If you’re taking care of an elderly person, if you’re taking care of a baby, it doesn’t matter. Whatever you’re doing it is as unto the Lord.

BOB: Mm.

STEPHANIE: And the Lord is pleased when we take those on as our daily tasks. That’s what He’s put our hands to, so why not do it in the glory of the Lord. And worshipping while we’re doing it.

BOB: Absolutely.

STEPHANIE: Just talking to Him.

BOB: Makes sense to me. Yeah. Now, what if somebody, and here, so far, they’re convinced, “Yeah. I need to hear Jesus.”

STEPHANIE: Yeah.

BOB: “And I want to hear Jesus. You know, it says in the Bible that God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts,

STEPHANIE: That’s right.

BOB: And His ways are higher than our ways,

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: And how am I ever going to understand, even if He is talking to me?” [laughs]

STEPHANIE: [Laughs] That’s right. I have made it my life goal to read through my Bible every year. This year I’m on my, I’ve just finished fortieth time.

BOB: Mm.

STEPHANIE: And I’m not that, I read through two or three times on some of those years, because I finally upped it to where I could get through more than one time a year. (laughs)

BOB: That’s really a key. I mean, if we really want to hear what He’s saying, the entire Bible is what He’s saying. But, yeah. Go ahead.

STEPHANIE: Right. Exactly. And I learned that as I would read through the Word of God something would come up during my day, and it would trigger back to where I, actually, was in the Scripture at that time. The Word of God is so relevant. It is way more relevant than today’s newspaper. And so the, obviously, [laughs] even it’s more relevant than what’s on the internet. Let’s put it that way.

BOB: Yes.

STEPHANIE: That way it makes it more relevant. [laughs] But the Word of God is more relevant even tomorrow than it is today. It is perfect for our lives. It’s our lifeblood. And we need the transfer of information that comes from heaven that is in the Word of God. It is relevant. It is real. It is powerful. It is life changing. The Lord has set me free and healed me from just reading the Word.

BOB: Wow. Now, Jesus speaks to different people in different ways.

STEPHANIE: Yes.

BOB: He has kind of a different language maybe,

STEPHANIE: Yes.

BOB: For different people.

STEPHANIE: Absolutely.

BOB: So, how do you figure out what unique way He’s speaking to you?

STEPHANIE: Well, you know, I can hear the voice of God. And I know I can see pictures when I close my eyes. The Lord speaks to me that way. And because we’ve practiced hearing from Jesus we know that’s how He’s talking. But there’s a lot of people that say, “Well, Stephanie, I can’t hear Jesus at all.” Especially when we’re training children in the prophetic. There are some of them that can’t see a picture in their mind.

BOB: Uh-huh.

STEPHANIE: But they can actually get a picture and draw it on paper.

BOB: Hm.

STEPHANIE: And so, we actually had an experience this last year where we had a child that we knew was hearing from the Lord. We knew he was picking up things. And he was not able to say it with his mouth. And so we got out the paper one day, and got the crayons out,

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: – and said, “Okay. Just do a simple picture of whatever.” And, of course, we did this with everyone. We actually had two children that were not able to hear from the Lord. They could draw. And they had the most accurate –

BOB: Hm.

STEPHANIE: Prophetic pictures that we had seen. And we were shocked and just blessed.

BOB: Yeah. Yeah.

STEPHANIE: At how the Lord was speaking. So there are many ways that the Lord can speak. Art. Music. He speaks, you may wake up in the morning hearing a song and just know that that’s from heaven. And it may even be a secular song. The Lord spoke to me one time about [laughs] “How sweet it is to be loved by you,” that wonderful old song.

BOB: Right. Yeah. Yeah. [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: And my heart just wept when I, when He was–

BOB: Yeah.

STEPHANIE: I knew He was singing that song straight to me,

BOB: Wow. Wow.

STEPHANIE: And I was like, “Oh, how sweet it is to be loved by you.”

BOB: Wow. (laughs)

STEPHANIE: So what a precious way. The Lord speaks to us in gentle, precious, sweet ways, and,

BOB: Okay, Stephanie, so, I understand I need to hear God’s voice.

STEPHANIE: Yes.

BOB: I need to hear Jesus. I’m with you.

STEPHANIE: [Laughs]

BOB: And I’ve discovered how He speaks to me, and I’m hearing things from Him. But sometimes I don’t understand what He’s saying.

STEPHANIE: [Laughs]

BOB: I don’t get it. What do I do?

STEPHANIE: Go back to the Word of God. The Word of God will teach you His thoughts. His ways are higher than our ways. His understanding is way higher than ours. Now Jesus spoke in parables in the Word, and so many times if you have a picture of something that keeps repeating, like we said, numbers – But there may be a picture. Maybe fish come up, or something. You keep seeing fish over and over. What’s the Lord talking about? Well, go back to the Word of God and say, “Lord, I’m going to look, I’m going to search for fish. And I see You’re doing this. And it could have something to do with multiplication. It could have something to do with – Fish can also represent lost souls that are coming into Jesus. Could be even praying for other believers, because we know, even the Christian symbol is a fish.

BOB: Uh-huh.

STEPHANIE: So it could be praying for other believers, and missionaries, or whatever. Maybe the Lord’s calling you to something. So begin to tie whatever picture that the Lord is showing you over and over to something out of the Word of God, or even a story. Go in and search, even do a word search through the Word of God. And the Lord will show you. You will know.

BOB: Okay. We need to take one more quick break. And when we come back, one of the things that Stephanie says you can do if you’re not sure what God is saying is you may just have to wait. Wait on Him. And she had an experience where she had a dream, [music] and she didn’t know for five years what it meant.

STEPHANIE: [Laughs]

BOB: But God showed her. So come right back after this.