SID: When Mary Baxter prayed over you, you received something special and when you pray for deliverance in a corporate setting, have you ever seen almost everyone gets set free in a congregation?

JOHN: Yes, it’s happened to me two times. It was totally amazing. Didn’t touch anyone. Just spoke deliverance and people just started falling out and manifesting. Even the elders that were helping them, they were falling out as well.

SID: Do people know if they have demons?

JOHN: I believe some do and some don’t. I was doing a deliverance class and one of my members of my church, she came and said, “look, I don’t need to come to the deliverance class.” She said, “I only have one demon”. And I say, “that’s one demon too many. You don’t want any demons.”

SID: Tell me about the woman. Just read the intro of your brand new book and what happened.

JOHN: That was amazing. She came to our church and she purchased the book and she went home and just read the introduction and the first chapter. She wrote on my Facebook page, she wrote in saying that she got total deliverance just by reading those two chapters. It amazed me.

SID: You see why the devil did not want that book? I mean that’s a freedom book. Yes. Did you feel the glory of God at all when you were doing this?

JOHN: I did. I did, and the glory was more evident through the resistance because I believe that when you are facing a lot of resistance, God is in that thing. And you have to keep going and push forward. Too many people face resistance and they stop going, but that’s when I go hard even more. David ran at Goliath, he didn’t run from Goliath. He ran at Goliath first, so a lot of times we have to run after the devil and get him on the run instead of him having us on the run.

SID: You know what I believe? I believe once the devil becomes convinced you’re never going to give up. He goes and looks for someone else. That’s what I’m convinced.

JOHN: I would say the devil fights hard, but he doesn’t fight long.

SID: I like that. You teach a lot about how to protect our anointing oil with the Holy Spirit. What, what do you mean by that? Explain that.

JOHN: Well, one definition of anointing is effectiveness. So the devil wants to stop our effectiveness, so he’ll do whatever he can do. So we really need to guard our oil, our anointing so he doesn’t discover the secret to our effectiveness. A lot of times we talk about anointing and you need anointing for different things. Revival, for breakthrough, for healing. And once the enemy finds that secret out, he’ll start planning and plotting against you. That’s why sometimes it’s better to be quiet than to really talk a lot. You don’t want the enemy to hear you. The plans and strategies God has downloaded specifically to you in order to tear down his kingdom. So I believe that again, it goes back to effectiveness. God has given us oil to be effective and the devil doesn’t want that.

SID: You say that every believer [has] a right to divine wholeness and healing. Every believer.

JOHN: Yes, yes.

SID: Explain.JOHN: I did a study and I looked at how people were healed and I learned that the people that decreed the thing got healed. Instead of asking questions, instead of asking for healing. I went to the Centurion soldier. He said, “speak the word only and my service should be made holy.” He told that to Jesus and it happened. The woman with the issue of blood, she said, “if I may touch to hem of his garment, I’ll be made whole.” And she did it. And that’s what happened. And even blind Bartimaeus, he said, “Oh, son of David have mercy on me.” Statement. Decree. He got healed. He got healed. He got his sight back. So what I learned is that we have to do it by faith. Job 22 and 28 says, if you decree a thing it is established. So I’m learning that we have to decree him because it’s something that belongs to us. Healing is the children’s bread. We have it. It’s a promise of God. So what we have to decree it by faith. And it will start to manifest in our bodies.

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