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SID: So my guest, Nick Griemsmann, had incurable schizophrenia. Nick, what is like to have schizophrenia?

NICK: Sid, if you could imagine, if you take a vice, a metal vice with spikes in it, and if you take this vice and you put it on your head like a helmet and then you start screaming in your head evil profane things, blaspheming God, you know, different things like that, the blasphemy, the yelling in the head to kill yourself, that there’s no hope, and this cap would be on your head, and they tell you that it will never leave.

SID: So you go to this Assembly of God Church, you go up to the altar and someone begins to pray for you. What happened?

NICK: A nice man and his wife, they were praying over me and this spiritual force, I felt it, it lifted out of my head that night. It just lifted out of my head and at that moment I knew, I knew—

SID: What did you actually know? When this spiritual force lifted, what were, did you know?

NICK: Well I knew two things. One, that I was completely healed of schizophrenia at that moment. But two, I knew that there was some sort of evil nest of some type of spiritual force that some of it actually left, and I had hoped that I could pursue Jesus to receive my complete deliverance.

SID: So that was your first hope after all the stuff you went through. Okay. So you, step by step, the Holy Spirit directed you to do different things. I’m going to take you to your parents’ swimming pool. What, tell me what the Holy Spirit was teaching you and what you were doing?

NICK: I would put on worship music and I’d walk around the swimming pool outside and I worshiped the Lord, and I’d start commanding the demons to come out of my mind and stop causing torment. I used the Word of God and my faith, and I started commanding Satan to leave me in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. I did this in one day. I was doing it for over an hour. And I just knew that eventually something else was going to come out like it did that night at the church. And this day, I was working around the pool, worshiping God and commanding Satan to come out and this spiritual force from my stomach, it came up and it went uhhh, and it manifested, this thing, and it went out of my head. And I fell on the ground and I started weeping. I was weeping with joy. I was so thankful because I knew I didn’t need other people to pray for me to be delivered. I could actually do it myself.

SID: This was like self-deliverance. Now you have over a thousand pages of diagnosis of incurable schizophrenia. You also have something that it’s referred to as a decertification certificate. In other words, he can’t get any more welfare. He’s not insane. But what is insane to me is he’s now an administrator for that institution. Now how many people did you have working for you?

NICK: I had 40 to 50 working for me.

SID: Can you imagine that? Forty to 50 people with that same institution. I’ll tell you, Doctor, that’s cool. And you’re taking eight to 10 meds. Were you off of that completely?

NICK: Not instantly. So what happened to me, I didn’t instantly have a miracle like completely free from schizophrenia. The Lord took me through a process, which I noticed in the ministry that now that He does that a lot for people to teach them about His spirit and how to do spiritual warfare. So I went through a process and through that process with my doctor’s help and my case managers, and my family, I decided to try to wean off the medications. I did it very slowly. I don’t recommend to get off medications instantly. I went very slowly with my doctor’s help. And eventually within right about three or four months, I was completely off all the medications.

SID: Now you had a few doctors talk to you, especially your administrator now for this organization connected with the hospital. What did these doctors think when they saw your records?

NICK: The doctors, they can’t really explain it.

SID: I’m sure not.

NICK: It’s a great opportunity to witness God’s love to people. I might not necessarily get to preach at people or anything like that in a work environment. But I could witness to them that, you know, my faith helped me.

SID: And you know what’s so exciting about what happened to Nick? He says, this self-deliverance works for all sorts of problems, physical sickness, fear, emotional problems, addictions of all kind: pornography, alcoholism, drugs. It’s wonderful. Jesus wants you free. He wants you free. He has a hope for you. He has a future for you. We’ll deal with that when we come back. Don’t go away.

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