SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Katie Souza. So Katie, what is this banking in the presence of God, banking in the glory? What do you mean by that?

KATIE: Well in this time of famine in the United States, boy we need all the help we can get.

SID: Sure.

KATIE: So we need tools in the natural and tools in the supernatural, too. And there is creative power in the glory cloud, so we can utilize that to begin to create finances and provisions for us. And I got a bunch of stories, so I’ll just share with you.

SID: I love it. Tell me about this $21,000 debt. You think you’ve got problems. Tell me about that, Katie.

KATIE: Okay. So here we are, this fledgling ministry and we’ve got, we’ve accrued $21,000 worth of debt. So I put my whole team on a 21-day fast and I said, “Lord, you got to give me keys to be able to break this debt.” And so during the fast He gives me Psalm 100, which says, “We enter into the gates of Heaven with thanksgiving and His courts with praise.” He said, “This is one of the ways that Jesus opened the heavens to get the glory cloud to come and cause the multiplication of provisions.” And I’m like, okay, what is that? And He says, “I want you to read the story in Luke 9 about the multiplication of the fish and bread. So I go to Luke 9. Jesus is feeding 5000 people with five loaves and two fishes. And I saw it. I saw exactly how he did it, Sid. It said that, “Jesus took the five loaves and two fishes and looking up to Heaven praised God and gave thanks.” What’s going on? Jesus knows, “I got to feed a bunch of people with this little bit. I need the power, the creative power of the glory cloud.” So that’s why he first “looked up to Heaven”. He’s looking for the open heaven to get the cloud to drop. And the next thing it says is, “The praising God, he gave thanks.” What’s he doing? He’s doing Psalm 100 entering into His gates with thanksgiving and His courts with praise. There’s gates in Heaven. You can open them with thanksgiving, and then the glory cloud will fall, and our praise, God’s presence or His glory will have our praises. So he’s looking up to Heaven and he says, “Okay, now I need to get it open. I’m using my thanksgiving and praise.” He gets it open. The cloud drops. And the next thing it says is this: “Then he spoke a blessing over the bread.” What’s he doing? He’s doing what God did in Genesis 1 when God created the world. God had His glory cloud and He spoke into the cloud. He said, “Let there be light. And there was light.” Jesus gets the presence of the glory. He lifts the little bit of bread he has up into, and he speaks a blessing over the bread, literally commanding it to prosper, to multiply, and it does in the creative power of the cloud.

SID: Okay. That’s well and good. That is Jesus. You learn these tools, if you will.

KATIE: Right.

SID: How does it play out with Katie who’s $21,000 in debt?

KATIE: Okay. So I see this revelation and I’m like, that’s how he did it. I can do it, too. So I did the exact same thing.

SID: You really have a childlike faith, don’t you? You do.

KATIE: Well if the Bible says it I can believe it.

SID: And you also get revelation teaching. You’re not like a normal teacher. You teach by revelation.

KATIE: Yes.

SID: Jesus fast. You had, I want to go back to the 21,000. But this Jesus, you have a fast. You call it a Jesus fast. What is that?

KATIE: Totally focusing on Jesus, just worshiping, doing songs that are about him. Reading all the gospels, reading all the prophecies, reading everything about Jesus, spending all the time meditating on him, speaking within our heart, and just doing that in a elongated period of time. And what happens is you begin to carry him and birth him when you do that.

SID: Okay. You owe 21,000. What do you do?

KATIE: So here I am. I see it. I was like, wow, that’s how Jesus did it. Oh my gosh, I can do the same thing, right? So I begin to do exactly what Jesus did. I had $3000 to pay on my $21,000 debt. So I took that little bit of money like Jesus took his little bit of bread and fish, and I began to do a Psalm 100. “Enter into the gates of Heaven with thanksgiving and His courts with praise.” I just pressed and pressed, and kept my focus, and kept praising and thanking God. And when I felt the atmosphere change I felt the burning and the glory, I felt like a heaviness on my shoulder, I knew the tangible presence of the glory was there, and I had created power. So I did what Jesus did. I lifted up my bread into the cloud and I spoke into the cloud a blessing over it. I commanded it to multiply. Well the day after the 21-day fast ended we got a check for $21,000.

SID: Katie, as you’re sharing this story, the atmosphere is changing. I don’t know what you want to pray for those that are watching, but I believe with this atmosphere changing you should move into this right now and pray.

KATIE: It’s not only to break your debt, because you can do that first. Then you can also cause finances to multiply for you. I ascended up into Heaven and got a diamond that my husband had. My husband had been out of business for nine months, and we needed financial income. I ascended up to Heaven, got a diamond, came back down and God said, “Now command it to manifest in the glory.” I did and we got a $250,000 miracle. You can do the same thing.

SID: Now the diamond, though, it wasn’t a real diamond. It was a, you saw it in the spirit?

KATIE: I saw it in the spirit and God says, I said, “What is that?” And He goes, “It represents what I have for you in the glory.”

SID: And then you prayed for it to manifest as in Heaven on Earth, and how much money came in?

KATIE: A quarter of a million dollars.

SID: Now a lot of people are having difficulty believing this. But the truth of the matter is you have found a supernatural key. Now if we are going into an economic crisis worldwide and the Bible talks about the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous, there will be a wealth transfer. I believe that God has given you a key towards the wealth transfer.

KATIE: Yes. Once you learn how to cultivate the glory and speak into the cloud then you can use this all the time for any situation, to break debt, to cause an increase of financial income. Once you have the tool you can use the tool over and over again. We’ve had so many financial miracles: $100,000, $32,000.

SID: All right, very briefly, give us a jump start on how we can ascend up into Heaven and get the answers to our prayers and bring them back to Earth just like the angels did for Jacob.

KATIE: Well use your faith. It says that by faith that Enoch was transferred into Heaven.

SID: Pray that for us.

KATIE: Okay. Right now I just want to break off anything that’s on you that would hinder you from believing that you have the legal right to ascend into Heaven and get everything you need to cause your promises to come to pass in an accelerated manner. So I pray for you now. Just receive it right now. I command everything that will hinder you from ascending into the heavenly realms to be gone right now, right now in the name of Jesus, and for you to by faith be able to go into the heavenly realms and bring back everything you need to live life and life abundant. And I decree an open heaven for you that you will become knowledgeable about the glory, how to cause it to manifest in your house, how to bring it in, how to open the heavens, and have a tangible manifestation of the glory cloud coming into your home so you can begin to write your monthly bills and your checks, and command a blessing over them. So every time you pay your bills you’re gonna have a multiplication. I decree that for you right now in Jesus’ name.

SID: Katie, you know, when you’re talking about ascending and descending, I’m thinking about that one day very soon a shofar, a ram’s horn is going to blow, and we are going to ascend. But we’re not going to ascend to get something to come back. We’re going to ascend to be with Jesus. And I can almost hear that ram’s horn, that shofar, blowing right now. I don’t know about you, but I am getting ready to ascend, especially with the glory level that’s on this show, as I’m talking with Katie. But in order to ascend you have to be a spirit being. Your spirit has to have control over everything in your life. First you need the life of God in your spirit. You need your sins just as Katie when she was in prison, gave up. It’s time for you to give up and make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. I’m not talking religion. I’m talking about intimacy with the living God because He loves you. You are special. Believe it. Believe that Jesus died for your sins and your sins are washed away. You’ve repented of them and asked Jesus to live inside of you and be the Lord of your life. Do it now. Now.

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