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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here still trying to do an interview with Kathie Walters. You’d think it’s so easy. You come here and do it. But tell me about this. I’m so fascinated with this angel change that took resonance in your house for three and a half weeks. Tell me about it.

KATHIE: Okay. One Sunday night, I was watching a movie. My friend was doing some ironing. And it’s a good lesson here, because while I was watching the movie, out of the corner of my eye I saw a light. Well hello, most people have seen the Light. But I turned to see what the light was. So when I looked around there was one of the biggest angels I ever saw in my life, right there in my living room. And he had a little like a jug with a long spout, a jug of oil. And the next thing, he was standing behind me, and he poured this oil over my head, went over my head, my front, my arms. It really felt like a river. And the next minute, I slid out of the sofa and I sat on the floor.

SID: I can picture that.

KATHIE: So my missionary friend, who’s ironing, said, “What are you doing?” So I said, “Can’t you see that angel?” So she said, “No, but I can smell oil.” So I scooted over and I said, “Sit there.” So she sat there. He poured the oil, she slid out the sofa onto the floor. Well then she went down to my office and there were some people working the Bible codes. She said, “There’s an angel! There’s an angel!” So they came running up. They took turns. They sat on the sofa and he poured the oil. They fell out of the sofa. Well the word got around, I guess, my little town, and people were calling me for three and a half weeks, saying, “Can we come and sit on the sofa?”

SID: Okay, well wait a second, Kathie. It’s okay to slide out off when the angel does this. But what’s on with these people?

KATHIE: Well I’m going to explain that afterwards, okay? I’m going to explain that.

SID: Okay. You’re going to have to, you’re going to force me to wait. All right.

KATHIE: Yeah. Because I have to tell you the other bit first. So the angel came. Whoever sat there, he poured this oil and they’d fall out of the sofa onto the floor. If you sat at the other end, nothing happened because he stayed right there for three and a half weeks. And suddenly, he left. Now, people said to me, “What was that all about?” And I said, “Well I didn’t do it. I don’t know.” But I noticed that everyone I knew that came and sat on that sofa, the angel poured the oil over the next few weeks, they received a major life direction changing word for their life, that changed the course of their life or ministry. So that angel anointed them for change.

SID: You know, Kathie–

KATHIE: Anointed for change.

SID: There’s very little talk about angels. Some people are actually afraid of them. Some are worried that there will be angels that aren’t from God. I personally love your teaching. I listen to your teaching on “Faith in Angels” on your CD, and your booklet, “Angels Watching Over You.” What kind of feedback are you getting on people that sit in the seminar on angels? I mean, are they still observers or are they participating in the supernatural?

KATHIE: No. The whole point is that I teach the supernatural of angels and heavenly visitations, that’s for everybody. That’s supposed to be a normal part of life. It’s not just for me or you, or a few special people. That’s our inheritance. There’s angels appointed to everyone. People do have religious concepts about angels, which God is getting rid of. And people have this fear, like you said, oh maybe this angel is not from God. But you see, if an angel came in here today and wanted us to worship him, I think we’d know he wasn’t from God.

SID: Of course.

KATHIE: It doesn’t take a great deal of discernment. So God’s angels wouldn’t let you worship them anyway. So it’s not an issue, is it? So there’s angels that come to minister to you personally, like He says in Hebrews, “They sing to you.” And there’s also angels appointed to our ministry. They minister with us.

SID: You told me about someone was getting up to speak and you saw a change of one angel with another angel, I think it was.

KATHIE: Yeah.

SID: Tell me about that.

KATHIE: Okay. That was really interesting. And I was at a Gwen Shaw conference. And I saw the angel overlooking this meeting, Gwen Shaw’s meeting, and he was just watching from the balcony. And I said to the Lord, “Who’s that?” And He said, “That’s the angel over this ministry and he operates under the Archangel Michael, who’s over Jerusalem.” But all of a sudden, Gwen Shaw announced Ruth Heflin is gonna speak. Then I saw the angel over Gwen Shaw’s ministry move over to the other side of the balcony, and another angel came and stood there. And he was like this cloud of light golden glory, like the figure of a man. And I thought, what is he doing? And then Ruth Heflin ministered and she left, and that angel left. And that was the angel over her ministry who watched over the meeting while Ruth was ministering. ‘Cause then the other one came back.

SID: That is phenomenal. And the thing that is most phenomenal is that everybody has an angel and everyone can move in the supernatural.

KATHIE: Yes. That’s true.

SID: In fact Kathie, I would like you to pray for the spiritual scales come off the eyes of those that are viewing right now and move in the supernatural. Would you do that?

KATHIE: Yeah. Can I just say something else?

SID: Sure.

KATHIE: If you are near a Bible or something, you can hold it up, you know, because everything in here is for you. Everything in this book is your inheritance for you. So I tell people to lift this up and say, “Mine! This is mine.” You have to say it, “It’s mine!” Not a few special people. So yeah, I will pray that people get that revelation. And you can’t just, you know, think, well this is interesting. Yes. No, it’s not interesting. It’s for you. So you have to be convinced of it. And I’ll pray people will see that.

SID: Do that right now.

KATHIE: Father, in the name of Yeshua, in the name of Jesus, Lord, I just pray for that Spirit of revelation to come into the homes, into the offices, wherever people are watching. And Lord, I pray that revelation will come that this is for you. This is for me. It’s mine. The angels, the heavenly visitations, the chariots of God, the supernatural realm is our inheritance for every single believer. I just pray for releasing of that, that people will get it, and not just think of it as something to write a note about, and to get it in their lives and start to declare, this is my inheritance and this is my experience. Amen.

SID: Kathie, you prayed about chariots. Explain what they are. I know what they are. But do

explain.

KATHIE: Okay. Well I’ve often seen in the meetings, I’ve seen God’s chariots moving around.

SID: Did they look like Roman chariots with horses and–

KATHIE: The chariots seem to manifest slightly different to different people, because, you know, we’re all individuals, and He ministers to you personally. So I’ve seen, I begin to see a lot of wheels sometimes in the meetings. And I tell people, “God’s chariots are here. You can go in them. Just by faith you have to see them, and then you can go in them, and God will take you places.”

SID: And then you have supernatural experiences in other parts of the world.

KATHIE: Yeah. He loves, God loves to show you what He’s doing in other places.

SID: Does he ever take you up to the Throne Room?

KATHIE: Yeah, sometimes I’ve been into Heaven. Like everyday for three and a half weeks I was in Heaven. Another time, everyday for seven days I was in Heaven. But He usually takes me to a lot of nations and shows me different moves, different things that are happening. But that’s not, see, that’s for everybody. You just have to believe it.

SID: Kathie, very quickly, what would you say to the person that is almost a nervous wreck right now? They’re so upset over all this supernatural stuff we’re talking about. What would you say to them?

KATHIE: Why are you upset? [laugh]

SID: [laugh]

KATHIE: Why would you be upset? I think it would be wonderful news.

SID: I have to tell you, it’s normal. It’s about time the world becomes normal. I personally wish and I believe, and I’ve prayed that prayer with Kathie, I believe that I’m gonna have many, many angelic encounters. I’m not looking for them. But I believe I’m going to Heaven, because they’ve been sent to minister to those who are heirs of salvation. And we are heirs. You are an heir of salvation. And however, I’ve only seen an angel a couple of times. But I have some good news for you. I experience the presence of God, God Himself living inside of me 24/7. That’s even better than angels. God, the Creator of the Universe, living inside of me 24/7, and I’m aware of it. I am never alone. Look, if God is for you, who can be against you? I mean, I read the papers like you, and I see all the things that are horrible, that are going on, on the Earth. If I have God, the Creator of Universe that loves me so much, and here’s the good news, He loves you as much as He loves me. All you have to do is get to know Him. Get beyond religion. Say, “Jesus, I make you Lord.”

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